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Anacap publishers wanted to sell more Ayn Rand and came up with this old lady.

Remember, according to Emma Goldman, you shouldn't vote.
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true anarchists don't use the internet. hardcore anarchists don't use language, because it's an authoritarian construct that limits the mind to the terms of their playing field.

REAL anarchists sit in a pile of their own feces and scream incoherently.
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Voting is an endorsement of your subjugation.
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>ancap publishers
What? She endorses communism in the first essay.
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>>9232874
>according to Emma Goldman, you shouldn't vote.
So she's right about one thing.
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Emma Goldman was an anarchist in the old sense of the word: a political figure who called for the abolition of both the state and private property, with some elements of socialist thought.
Anarchism is regarded by many (even some old anarchists themselves) as part of the socialist movement.
How could Emma Goldman's writings be used to shill ancapism?

Also, wasn't her work prohibited in the United States?
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>>9236472
Did you read OP's book? Does the book says anything on private property or is just anti-statism and anarcho-individualism?
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>>9232874
I preferred her musical number
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>>9232874

It takes 5 minutes to cast a vote, but it takes 1 second to fire a gun at a government official.

Another failure of democracy.
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>>9237586
I don't know about OP's book, but I have read some writings by her so I'm kind of aware of her viewpoint
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>>9239332
>>9237586
Anarchism as a movement was not exclusively individualistic. It relies heavily in the social system they fought for (based in the abolition of private property and socialist production, since they believed the root for all problems was, indeed, the economic), but at the same time proposed that the main objective of society is to preserve the freedom of its individuals.
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>>9239370
Its ontological position is quite rooted in humans being social and altruistic. See peter kroptopkin. Later anarchists see the individual as an illusion perpetrated by the machinations of capitalism......then the Americans fucked it up with "muh freedums"
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>>9237586
haven't read that collection but she is (as all anarchists are) definitionally anti-capitalistic

right-libertarians like stephen molyneux and ayn rand have nothing to do with anarchism
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>>9239412
Early anarchism was very optimistical about itself and the will of humans to maintain a non-hierarchical social system. Emma Goldman and Ricardo Flores Magon claim in some of their writings that most of the people they talked about anarchism with said that it was a beautiful ideal, but quite impossible. And I can see why, since they are so passionate and enthusiastic about it.

Could you elaborate more in the later anarchists who viewed individual as a capitalistic illusion? I didn't study anarchism historical developement, but rather read a lot of writings from early anarchists.
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Sorry to be this hard, but somebody who has actually read this book can confirm or disprove OP?
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>>9239505
About what? Emma Goldman being ancap, calling to electoral abstention or the book being used to shill ancapism?
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>>9239461
Who is Stephen Molyneux and why is the same to rand?
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>>9239528
I think the discussion now is more about seeing if the book can be used to promote anacap thinking.
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>>9239542
There is a book with the same name in the anarchist library.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-anarchism-and-other-essays
Maybe op has to provide evidence that backs up his claim, but unless the book doesn't actually feature any complete essay I don't see how you could do it.
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>>9237618
Source?
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>>9239461
>she is (as all anarchists are) definitionally anti-capitalistic
Found the retard. Capitalism is the free market with the absence of government, friend. That is inherently anarchistic. Have you never read any of the anarcho-capitalists?
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>>9239505
ITT probably only one person has actually read the book. The rest of the people are here to assert speculation.
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>>9234380
Kek
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>>9240242

Free market requires property rights. Who defends market property rights if not a state? I mean some farmer with a gun can defend his land, but there is a big jump from there to, say, NAFTA.
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>>9240219
She's only in it briefly, alas
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>>9234380
anprims are the true anarchists then
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>>9239412
using ontological wrong
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>>9240242
The word Anarchism back then used to mean a political view of anti-statism and socialist ideas. The anarcho-capitalists are not anarchist in the same way that the old anarchists were, and some of them even prefer the word libertarian.
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