Who was right?

>>9230431

Whose pure ideology was closest to a livable truth?
I think it should be obvious

Idealism and Pessimism are both delusional

>>9230431
Only about women

>>9230548
Hegel wasn't idealistic in the modern sense of the word at all

>>9230558
>This
I'd say he was a very strange realist

>>9230558
Didn't he literally believe that the driving force behind history is this dialectical movement of the spirit etc.?

>>9231819
That's like saying that the driving force behind history is... people.

>>9231839
But that was never not up for debate, no? I don't think either materialism or idealism (at the time) denied that humans are driving history, I thought the discussion was over if it's cultural (ideas/spirit) or material (economics).

>>9231854
That difference doesn't exist for Hegel.

>>9231858
Well, that's the point, isn't it? Marx saying, no you stupid, there's a difference and it's obvious that economics drive ideas.