Marx

>>9214739
Well, he's the first person who really emphasized the class struggle, so he'd probably be remembered as muh as most sociologists and stuff.

Bakunin btfo'd him.

>>9214739
a deadbeat dad who impregnated his maid then left her to stave on the streettt

>>9214796
And in turn, Kropotkin BTFO'd Bakunin

BTFOing Stirner

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>>9214796

>>9214739
Why ask absurd hypotheticals?

saged

I wonder if communism will have a comeback in the 21st century

>>9214845
>Being so butthurt about a dead ideology that you have to write 150+ pages talking shit about it.
Marx was mad as fuck. That much I can tell you

/pol/fags will have fun here

>>9215320
>le "no true marxist" fallacy

what a meme

>>9215320
Nah

It's been tried and failed. We'll probably just see a dystopian world emerge in the next few decades.

Utopias can't exist.

>>9215320
I think it most probably will, but in a completely new form/understanding, hopefully.

He's one of the most insightful philosophers in the modern world, he would still be very significant for his contributions to social science, critique of capitalism and a radical continuation of the western philosophical tradition by resolving its problems into political practice.

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>>9215320

NO REFUNDS

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Marx's ideas have never been put into use. Marx was primarily and almost exclusively a CRITIC OF CAPITALISM, correct? He never envisioned a or laid out plans for what a non-Capitalist state would or should look like (as far as I know). So isn't it misleading to associate him with Mao's China, Stalin, etc.?

>>9216945
>regular socdem is a communist
Uh-huh.

Personally I really hope proper socialism returns in the western world, we've had enough neoliberalism to fuck us up and destroy any hope for a better world. Enough cocksucking of the ethnonationalist ego, we need some Bolshevik spirit.

>>9216954

>gets tired of neoliberalism
>doesn't team up with ethnonationalists, neoliberalism's strongest enemy

commiecucks always lose when they fight alone. why do you think Rosa Luxembourg failed where Ernst Rohm succeeded

>>9216955
>ethnonationalism, neoliberalism's strongest ally
Yeah, those fascists were so left-wing with their opposition to corporate tyranny...
You are truly fooling yourself, every /pol/ack I've seen doesn't propose any findamental economic change at all, they just swallow all their Mises or Hayek shit.

>>9216962

You've never read Oswald Mosley, haven't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NqG2lAojNQ

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>>9216968
Nationalists are pure cancer who always ruin socialist movements, I would never support them. I get enough ethnonationalism in ex-yugoslavia, thanks.
Anyway, I Googled the dude and he was some Mussolini fanboy, lmao.

>>9216981

>he was some Mussolini fanboy

Congratulations on not thinking for yourself. Typical tankie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN7FpwAa-Ls

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>>9216952
Closest we have is Gothakritik, which often goes counter to most of the decisions Soviet Union ever took, hell he even envisaged the final moments of capitalism as the combine of state and private property.

The question is rather if there really existed a "communist" movement beyond a very militant social democracy. The workers wanted a 'larger slice' of capitalist gains, and so did the colonized peoples - there was no real motivation to end the entire capitalist production process (if it was at that point even possible). Tamas made an article on the topic: http://www.grundrisse.net/grundrisse22/tellingTheTruthAboutClass.htm

>>9214796
>called him a jew
I'm not sure you know what "btfo" means.

>>9216955
>Ernst Rohm succeeded
>getting shot
>successful

>>9216955
>ethnonationalists, neoliberalism's strongest enemy
Yep, you sure drained that swamp and put HRC in chains.