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Stop using computers.
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>>9189870
Tomorrow.
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>>9189870
No
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>>9189870
But then I'd have no job.
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>>9189973
Who's this pseud looking dude?
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>>9189982
Sheldon Cooper
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>>9189988
Bazingyl-Undhu
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>>9189982

Pete Townsend of The Who
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>>9189870
Yesterday I made a party at my buildings rooftop, it has table and some chairs. I invited my closer friends, all from HS. 13 people max. There were a lot of beers and a lot of laugh. My friends know that I'm kind of fucked, I'm NEET and I have to take pills to function like a normal human being, my soul is broken but I've been able to try to fix to some point since I got on meds and started reading a lot, I mean the classics. Yesterday, every moment was happiness, since it was my house I was able to play whatever music I wanted and my friends just didn't complain (the first album I played was Deserter Songs my Mercury Rev.
I barely remember last nigh, but what I remember is that I felt great, no of those people judge me, they know from a long time. I can be an asshole sometimes (they too), but we were, still, there, having fun, talking about memories, old jokes, rolling cigars.
The internet really is a bad and addictive thing, of course alcohol, weed and all can be addictive too, but at least I was drunk with people that, for whatever reason, where there with me, sharing jokes with, discussing cheap with.
Non of them really care about literature, but there is this girl, that really loves music, and so do I, and seeing her excitment when certein songs or whatever was a really warm moment, I really wanted to hug here in that moment because it made me feel like I'm not 100% alone, at least in some way. I know I was drunk, but that feel was legit, that is the kind of thing that makes everything worth it

TL;DR
Stop watching porn
Stop being addicted to this place
Start being comfy
Stop being so hard on yourself
Start eating healthy
Start lifting weights
Stop caring about clever talks
Learn a musical instrument
Start with the Greeks


Read a lot, sing a lot, talk a lot, laugh a lot, cry a lot, life is beautiful, it sucks too, yeah, but thats not the point and there isnt anything to do about it.
Don't bomb people, dont go nuts-.

C.R.E.A.M
Get the money
Cash Rules Everything Around Me
Dollar Dollar Bill Y'ALL

Have a nice day, /lit/, go take a walk or something. memes are toxic, humans are comlpex. Sorry for my bad english.
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>Stop watching porn
Done.
>Stop being addicted to this place
Ok
>Start being comfy
eh
>Stop being so hard on yourself
No.
Start eating healthy
I'm trying
>Start lifting weights
Too depressed to do it
>Stop caring about clever talks
What?
>Learn a musical instrument
I don't feel like it.
>Start with the Greeks
Ok

The more I learn about life, the more I want to commit suicide.
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>>9189870
>le bomb mane xd
>>9189973
>le schizoLARPer xd
fuck off with this bullshit

Any idiology that tries to "fix" something of the world or society is a retard
We need struggle, we need hunger, we need to be as chaotic or more than what it is now, we need wars, we need death, we need depression, we need being lost. If any of that or relateed didn't exist life wouldn't be a thing, the world wouldn´t be a thing, and I love this world, I love the see, I love the grass, I love the mountains, I love the see, I love good people, I love literature, music, paitings, movies. Is all disonance, is the beauty in the terrible, in the ungly, the beauty that is the fire, the extasis, that we are all looking forward.
Fight and never stop fighting, if not, just commit suicide and stop wasting air
The guy in your pic, OP, was a mentally ill retard who killed innocent people, he is shit, he is nothing, I will keep using computers as long as I want because I have the will to stop when computers fuck with my productivity and mental set. Be everything or be nothing, that guy, in your pic, nothing, void, weakness, that is what he is.
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>>9190087
>The more I learn about life, the more I want to commit suicide.
T-this.
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>>9190087
See all that shit, thats called the Big Other. Tell him to go fuck himself
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>>9189870
>telling me to stop doing what I'm interested in
no thanks
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>>9190087
>>9190144
You fucking faggots dont get't
Life can't be learned, you are just IN it (it being life) and life is always moveving, when there is no movement, no + and -, there is just 0.
Philosophy can be learned, math can be learned, literature can be learned, all the STEM suff can be learned, but life can't be learned, you are INSIDE life, the only way you could learn about life would be being outside of life.
People think being in their room posting frogs is being outside of life, thats is life, that is their life, and there is no scape, fight or die, and fighting isnt easy, but for out luck, fighting is something that actually can be learnd, so start there, if you want, everything I'm saying could be probably just a bunch of bullshit?
May I ask, what have you (or belived to) learnd about life?
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>>9190087
>>9190144
>The more I learn about life, the more I want to commit suicide.
Maybe you mean western values rather than life. If so, learn to embrace the temporary Nothingness you are and just Be.
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>>9190118
>reads Nietzsche once
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>>9190087
>>Stop being so hard on yourself
>No
You have to think about yourself as your best friend, not as dad, a good friend will be kind but honest. If you go too hard on yourself you will end up exausted, and depressed or pseudo-depressed.
You know exactly what you have to do, you exactly what you want, but if you start calling yourself a piece of shit everyday it will mess you up.
>>Start lifting weights
>Too depressed to do it
It will help you start being slightly less depressed, get your blood flowing.
>>Stop caring about clever talks
>What?
Is not about what the conversation is about, but HOW do you talk about it, Weather smalltalk can be non-vomit inducing, but it depends on you, be creative.
>>Learn a musical instrument
>I don't feel like it.
That's find, but you are missing a truly beautiful experience, just playing to one self can clear the mind and clean the sould in a really sublime way.
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>>9190236
I haven't read much Nietszche, only some passages, I would want to read him, but I'm really a bad reader, and I'm afraid that if I dont read Kant or others philosophers before N I will end up getting lost, and Kant seems to be like a pain in the ass, I'm pretty sure I dont have enough IQ to understand him anyways.
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>>9189870
Can I buy this man's book without being placed on some alphabet soup watchlist?
Don't really know much about the man apart from his apparent desire to explode some place

I am interested to learn why technology is evil and why we should destroy it
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>>9190029
>TL;DR
>Stop watching porn
Watch classy wholesome porn if you must. Tits are comforting.

>Stop being addicted to this place
All addictions are bad. Everything in moderation.

>Start being comfy
Nope. Get out of comfort zones to ward off ennui.

>Stop being so hard on yourself
Sure, but self criticism is good too.

>Start eating healthy
Yes.

>Start lifting weights
Or run. Physical activity is important. A tired dog is a happy dog.

>Stop caring about clever talks
Never be pretentious. Be humble always.

>Learn a musical instrument
Just a take up a permanent fun hobby, trade or skill.

>Start with the Greeks
and remember Thrasymachus was right. Plato couldn't handle it.
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>>9190269
>>Start being comfy
>Nope. Get out of comfort zones to ward off ennui.
Agree, but I meant in the sense of, remember to take a harm bath, enjoy an album with the eyes close laying in bed, give you that moment on a die to just be like if you were on heroin, it really helps, close your eyes and go inside yourself for 5 mins, whatever does the tric
Getting out of your comfort zone is essential, that is the moment when you really see yourself, and if you dont see, dont comprend yourself, you will never know how to handle smoothly being alive
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>>9190320
>harm
warm*
>die*
day
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>>9190328
won't trick me this time satan
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>>9190351
? the fact that I dont belive in """God"""" doesnt mean I'm satan
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>>9190259
Honestly, you're probably already on a watchlist, depending on your internet history
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>>9189982
The unabomber
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>>9190236
>>9190236
Not an argument.
See: Ecce Homo
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>>9189982
kantboot2000 aka sam hyde
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>>9190320
>>9190328
>trying to trick me so I freudian slip in the bathtub and break my neck

No
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>>9190374
just take care of yourself and put on some of those rubber stuff in the floor
Wanna hear some comfy tunes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6JpS1XYGJQ
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>>9190029
I'm not sure if this is a great post or a shitpost
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>>9190393
Looks like dull unexamined 'b urself' platitudes to me, famatachi
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>>9190421
No, "being yourself" is futil if "yourself" is a weak shit
What I'm trying to say is use yourself for yourself, want it or not, everyone has bonds with someone else, if "yourself" doesnt do any good, git gud or kys familia
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>>9190421
start working in your reading comprehension skills famadesune
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>>9190236
more like
>reads Rimbaud once
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Friendly reminder of who is best Ted.
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>>9190204
Life is all about climbing the social hierarchy. Which I have zero desire to do. I don't give a fuck about spooks like social status, but that's what normies care about. And in life it seems you can either be a moralist or a hedonist and I can't be either of those so a think bullet to the brain would be best for me. In short, my life is just fuck my shit up tier and I cannot be unfucked.
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>>9190442
>>9190453
looks like dull unexamined 'b urself' platitudes to me famatachi
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>>9190524
The meaning of life is to live it, fail, succes, happines, sadness, all the same
Just try to have fun, eat healthy and not die because that shit is boring
You will die anyways, just have fun until that day comes
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>>9190547
Give a better post then, or prove me wrong, I like respecful discussion
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>>9190678
Tho, I may not answer right now because im really sleepy, but if I dont resond now i will tomorrow, but maybe my belifies will not be the same I have now, Im bipolar
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o.k.
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>>9190673
>Just have fun
The only time I'm having fun is when I'm not thinking about my shit existence, so when I'm sleeping or playing video games (I hate many of them too). My life isn't worth living.
>Death is boring
Boring is probably the last word I would I choose to describe death.
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>>9190704
If you think your existence, change your way of existing, is not easy tho
When you are death literally nothing happens, you dont even feel calm because you stop existing, is just nothing, it really is boring, do you really think any of that is fun or interesting in some way?
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>>9190777
Your existence is bad*
Sorry for all the typos I have brain damage
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>>9190777
>Change your way of existing
What the fuck should I change? My life is shit and nothing can change that.
>When you are death literally nothing happens, you dont even feel calm because you stop existing, is just nothing, it really is boring, do you really think any of that is fun or interesting in some way
When your dead you can't suffer, sounds great to me.
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Aww the bluepiller gave up. The blackpill was too strong for him to handle.
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>>9190678
If you unironically like dull unexamined 'b urself' platitudes it's not like there's anything I can say that will make you suddenly break out of your indoctrinated mainstream culture
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>>9189870

I never
Did
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>>9190029

you are a meme
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>>9190372

he cant keep getting away with it
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>>9190029
>gets drunk once
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>>9190792
>and nothing can change that.
you can, using whatever you can
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>>9190901
is not about being yourself, is just being
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>>9190912
nice argument
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>>9190868
try me
protpip: blackpills, redpills, whatever, are just a meme
go find people you like, again, is hard, but is worth it
good bye and good luck, is so fucking late here
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>>9190901
>If you unironically like dull unexamined 'b urself' platitudes
ok, but give me an argument, i dont really feel indoctrinated mainstream culture, adapting to society is really hard for me becasue it goes so much away from what a belief
help me get another point of view, i think mine is pretty valid, but im open to other views, i would really appreciate if you posted them
will check them out tomorrow and give a reply
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>>9190029

>Non of them really care about literature, but there is this girl, that really loves music, and so do I, and seeing her excitment when certein songs or whatever was a really warm moment, I really wanted to hug here in that moment because it made me feel like I'm not 100% alone, at least in some way. I know I was drunk, but that feel was legit, that is the kind of thing that makes everything worth it

it's obvious that a teenage boy wrote this but the absolute naiveté of it all is charming.
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>>9189870
But Mr Kaczynski, I have a theory regarding online imageboards that I think might win you over. Ivan Illych proposed a sort of on-line forum for the organization of discussions between mutually interested parties on any subject as a form of learning in the future. That's what /lit/ has become. An awful version of it of course but there are things you can learn here that you simply won't get in a lot of schools. Nobody IRL can find decent discourse on books at all, on /lit/ maybe 1 in 100 threads have substance. That's already beating IRL. The internet can do good in limited forms.
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>>9190029
Beautiful.
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>>9189982
The loser nerd who can't get laid.
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>>9190901
I don't get it... Really, be yourself, why would you be something you're not? Why would you fake being someone else? For how long would you even be able to fake being someone else?

I mean, be yourself, you won't necessarily find friends and a girlfriend (you probably won't) but you would not find fulfilment either by faking being something else.

Being yourself is not advice to find friends, girlfriend, party invitations etc... It's to actually do something, whether it is to read books on subjects YOU personally find interests in (as weird and eccentric the subject is), go innawoods, start riots, pick fights with bums or kill yourself if any of those things seems like the TRUE thing to do.

What you want to escape is stagnation, purgatory mode

Yeah, be yourself and you'll learn to live. Autistic and weird at first but you'll get beaten down enough to learn TRUTH
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>>9190029
Dubs confirm
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>>9189870
Here's what I don't get about his stance on surrogate activities. He defines them as activities that we created because our needs are too easily obtainable, so we need to accomplish arbitrary goals to make ourselves feel satisfied. In his manifesto he implied that hobbies (and art and literature in general) are surrogate activities, and that primitive societies did not need them because of the power process.

But didn't primitive societies engage in surrogate activities? Art has been around for quite a while and doesn't serve a "need" in the strictest sense. Even while struggling to survive many tribes still had time to play music, games, tell stories, and engage in some form of recreation.

His definition of "needs" is also vague. At first he implies strictly biological needs, such as hunting for food. But then he touches upon things like love and sex. In certain cultures sex isn't really seen as a need (Buddhist monks, for example), and you can argue that it is no way comparable to needing to eat to survive. So what exactly does he mean by a "need"? If you're going to argue that love is a "need" then you can just as easily argue that wanting to express how you feel is a "need", which gives justification for art to exist. He even admits that many surrogate activities, in certain contexts, are not "pure" surrogate activities. So is it a surrogate activity or not? Is it good or bad? Seems kinda vague, desu.
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>>9190118
silly boy, we need depression and strugle ONLY for people to realize we need to change to a better world, where this problems are actually fought.
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>>9190673
>>9190673
first you said life cant be learned from inside.
then, you said the maning of life is to live.

you are hypocritical even in your own terms.
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>>9190118

You wouldn't survive 24 hours in Bulgaria. Eat shit, moron.
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>>9190320
>Getting out of your comfort zone is essential, that is the moment when you really see yourself
see yourself is the real comfort zone. if you need to search "different" experiences in order to find it, you have the problem in first place.
you can be yurself in your comfort zone.
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"Using computers" doesn't mean anything, it has no immanent properties. Using computers as tools is one thing, worshipping computers as pseudo-persons - which I assume is what Ted had a problem with - is another.
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>>9190118
>reads blood meridian once
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>>9190704
>>9190792

If you haven't yet tried SSRIs or other types of antidepressants, I highly recommend it. You're clearly suffering from a bad case of depression which could be sort out with the right medication. You need professional help. None of these "bro just think differently" types of comments will make a difference in your life since clinically depressed individuals can't be cured easily. Fortunately the symptoms can be eased with the right help.

It took time for me to find out the right medication and the right dose, but I'm on 30mg of Seronil (Fluoxetine) and the difference is astounding. Seriously go seek help with a psychiatrist or a doctor before you off yourself. It could really mean the difference between an enjoyable existence or a horrible one.
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>>9191790
From what I understood, a surrogate activity is any activity which doesn't relate to the individual's survival. Example: an electrical engineer reading a magazine about robotics is not engaged in a surrogate activity, but a nurse reading the same magazine is.

His concept of surrogate activities seems to overlap with Veblen's conspicuous leisure (individuals of higher social strata than the manufacturers learn new skills and develop activities to justify how they waste their time, instead of engaging in manufacturing. This leads to consumerism, as the wealthy spend their money on baubles with no added functionality just to differentiate them from the plebs who can't afford such things, which in turn entices the poor to consume more and more retarded items to "keep up with the Jonesses"). Check this book out.

Overall, I think that Kaczynski pokes the correct wounds, but eliminating technology will be futile, as humans will develop again. Linkola seems a bit more reasonable (Brotherhood of Steel FTW), but it might lead to even worse environmental issues, as the means of production are held by an elite with limitless power. Homo homini lupus.

I'm starting to believe that AI takeover is the solution.
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Stop thinking symbolically.
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>>9189870
I wish I had the strength
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>>9189982
Cyber Lovecraft.
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>>9189870

>I personally don't like intellectual pursuits or marine biology, therefore all such surrogate activities are inferior to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle and dying excruciating and prolonged deaths from simple infections

Bravo Ted, really activated the almonds.
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>>9192137
what happens if you stop taking those meds?
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>>9190029
>Indulge in base Hedonism that is only enjoyable with a below average IQ
Nah thanks
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>>9190087
>The more I learn about life, the more I want to commit suicide.
it's the exact opposite for me. i feel the more i read and continue to work out, the more i start seeing some kind of meaning in life. it just feels fun to make progress in myself instead of draining all my time into shitty timesinks like video games. i wish i would have figured this out when i was younger and not wasted my formative years doing fuck all.
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>>9192359
In most cases nothing. But withdrawal symptoms are still common. There's a large variety of symptoms when quitting SSRIs, but it usually doesn't cause any of them if the meds are not quit cold turkey and decreased gradually. After quitting the meds completely and the withdrawal symptoms are gone you probably will return to your depressed state or in some cases the depression doesn't relapse.
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>>9191790
Yeah, Kaczynski is a retard who didn't start with the Greeks.

I'm all for radical technophobic luddism but this manifesto was one of the worst things I've ever read.
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> wake up
> prepare porridge
> go back to sleep
> wake up and go out and hunt rabbits for 5-7 hours
> come back and eat
> stare out your window for awhile
> go to bed
> repeat

Anything else is "surrogate activity" and weak power process tier.

Basically Kaczynski was an insufferable faggot who only perceived the tip of the iceberg on technology and leftists. Kaczysnki fucking sucks.
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>>9192137
I refuse to take any substance that alters my brain. I refuse to have artificial happiness.
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>>9193310
>>9192137
I would rather take a bullet to the head than take a mind altering substance.
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>>9190029
>Start being comfy
>Stop being so hard on yourself
conflicting lmao
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>>9191553
>What you want to escape is stagnation
then ur not being urself

>be yourself but change
kys

yes, I know what you want to say, don't fry your brain making another reply. all i want you to know is that ur a massive pleb and your place is
>>>/r/eddit
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>>9191937
>имплaйвaш
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>>9193333

Square.
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>>9193310
>>9193333

It's your choice. Would you rather have "artificial happiness" or live a miserable life and end up killing yourself. One of the symptoms of depression is anhedonia. It's the inability to feel pleasure and joy. You could view depression as a disability of the mind. If you haven't had any pleasure in your whole life then there's a chance that your anhedonia might never get fixed.

If you choose not to try meds it's fine. There's a possibility that your depression might sort itself out, or by you going to a psychologist etc. But the thing with psychiatry and antidepressants is that it makes the prognosis more likely to be positive.
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>>9193126
>>9193443
who is this boy?
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>>9192137
lamotrigine worked for me
you may feel depressed but it might be something else, in my case was bipolar 2
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>>9191124
>>9191608
thanks
>>9192399
I´m sorry thats all you got out of that text

thanks
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>>9191929
agree
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>>9191124
it may had been naive but it was authentic, and that is hard to fine, at least for me
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>>9193412
It's hip to be square.
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>>9190029
>tfw you will never be 15 again
wew
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not even stallman is this autistic on computers
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>>9192137
don't listen to this gook shitter, SSRIs will make you watch anime 18 hours a day

everyone test your Testosterone and Estrogen levels, please I love you all
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>>9190029
yeah anon I also remember when I was a teen
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>>9193333
that sounds very mind altering
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>>9193460

Nick Cave's son.
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>>9189973
GNON
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>>9190029
>rich normie telling everyone to cheer up
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>>9193979

>fag doing his usual cognitive dissonance quelling routine whenever confronted with the suggestion that he should take responsibility for his own life by devaluing the advice of anon through explaining anons act of taking responsibility of anons life as a result of externalist factors instead of actually accepting that the locus of control is internal, that you yourself are solely responsible for your life, and that being rich, beautiful and popular are not prerequisites for living a fully conscious, examined and fulfilling life

WEW.
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>>9194002
>You yourself are solely responsible for your life
You're so full of shit.
You have control of your upbringing?
You have control of the amount of wealth you were born into?
You have control over your IQ?
You have control over the country you were born into?
You have control over what other people think of you?
You have control over the genetics poor genetic traits you inherited?
Fuck outta here Norman Reedus. Some people are just inferior and it can't be helped. Only the strongest survive.
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>>9193954
nice one anon
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>>9190029
>It's an "Anon suffers from a schizophrenic attack and imagines all of his long gone friends supporting him episode"
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>>9194002
>magical thinking in total cognitive dissonance with reality

wew
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>>9190029
Sounds pretty banal desu, but im happy that you were happy yesterday
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>>9194073
the point is all that doesn't MAKE you do anything you dumb shit
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>>9194223
It certainly influences the decisions you make. And being dealt shit hands certainly stifles positive thinking and development.
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>>9194140
Thats the point, embrace the banal, do you even /this is water/, friendo
>>9194116
I'm bipolar not schizo
>>9193865
I'm 19, when I was 15 I was much more naive but a lot more depressed, I think being naive and trying to assume the best is the only way to survive this hell. But of course you can't be naive when talking money or something like that, that would be dumb
>>9193772
My 15's were not that good
>>9193310
>>9193333
anti-depressants are fucking shit, I was depressed for like 8 months (I mean waking up spending hours looking at the wall, thinking about suicide, thinking about how much of a let down I was to my parents, thinking about my sister's problems, and feeling extreme pain in the chest area, it felt like bleeding out. I wasn't to "connec" with people, even with my mom, she telling me she loved me felt like nothing, there were no bonds with this world, my brain was all foggy all the time, and crying, lots of crying, losing my mind at nigh, I hear voices 2 times)
One day I tried Zoloft, 100mg, pannick attack and then manic for the rest of the day. Tried the same dose the day after, it made me feel even worse.
I tried going to a psychologist, it was a fucking scam, then I went to a psychriatist reccomended by a friend of my dad, this friend reads a lot and is a poet, he was born really porn and he was the only one who understood what it was going on, he reccomend me psychiatrist. The psy is a german, very tall dude, I told him everything, it turn out I'm bipolar, my brain is damaged, or maybe is just genetics, I've always been weird, but these 8 months it went out of control. Lamotrigine didnt make me happy, didnt change my personality, it made me being able to get up in the morning, it made me able to take a shower, to talk with friends without going into a void of despair inside my brain, it made me be in control of my mind and not the other way around.
Just give it a try.
Sorry for my bad english.
Start lifting
Stop the fapping
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>>9193954
lel'ing
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>>9193255
Why does this need explaining?
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>>9193979
I'm middle class, I live in an appartment with my parents who work all day and have worked everyday to substain me and my 2 sisters.
The last 3 years they have started earning more money, but they are old and it will not last much.
I didnt spend more that a couple of bucks in beer yesterday, we divided the money with my friends, they are all middle/middle low class.
Having a rooftop (or however is called), yeah, is a privilege, but a lot of people live in departments and they can use them too.
Real rich normies are at the club listening to trap.
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>>9194667
I'm still happy for you lad, but having a rooftop party with 13 of your best friends, having a good time and then telling other people to just start lifting weights and be happy is a bit silly.
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>>9194073
There is not point on obssesing about stuff out of your control, do the best you can't and don't be resentful, it will only make things worse for you.
Look at me, I grew up with a lot of """privilege"""" and opportunities, but it happens that my brain doesnt work and I just started treating it at 19, every other normal person with a similar background than me has 19 years of experiences over me. But I just can't give up, there is a lot of people with a higher IQ than me, more qt than me, with better personalities than me, with better brains than me, but, ok, cool for them, but I'm not going to compare myself with them, I can only compare myself with myself. I have nothing to loss, is either trying and stop complaining, or suicide, thats how I see it, and in my opinion being dead is boring, so fuck that, I will stay in here even if that means endless suffering, rejection, guilt, etc
I refuse to be a coward, there is enough of them already, want to be a good friend to my friends, a god son to my parents, a good brother to my sisters, a good poster on /lit/
I will probably fail, but I dont care, is better than not trying, slightly better, but better anyways, 8 months of NEETdom is enough
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>>9194627
>even with my mom, she telling me she loved me felt like nothing, there were no bonds with this world
I know this feeling so damn much. Whenever a family member compliments me I blow them off so hard. For me they are just lying to me make feel better.
>my brain was all foggy
This happens to me a lot too. I have moments where I struggle to put together basic strings of thought.
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>>9189870
Better memi than Varg desu
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>>9194697
I'm just trying to share what it worked for me, I see a lot of people being miserable here, lots of males. I relate, and is pretty sad. I wish I had the talent to put this intention in better words.
It sounds silly because it is silly, maybe I'm silly. Of course Schopenhauer sounds a lot less silly and makes really valid points, but it can make people miserable, I'm just trying to compensate a little since this place is so full of depressed people.
I dont know why am I even doing this, I dont know any of you guys, lol. Thanks for reading I guess.
Now go read and lift.
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>>9194627
>born really porn
ffs, i meant poor
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this thread took a weird path
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>>9191267
i dont know why i kek'd so much at this
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Stop thinking in images.
>>9192181
lel
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>>9193842
>everyone test your Testosterone and Estrogen levels, please I love you all
this is legit advice, i would suggest and overall blood test and a checkout on the endocrine system
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>>9194073
WE WUZ POORZ AND SHIET
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Is stoicism the cuck and proud philosophy? This Europoor ITT is really making feel that it is.
>Yeah my life sucks and everyone around me is having an amazing time and my existence may never be truly great but oh well :DDD
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>>9194839
I'm not stoic, I'm just not a resentful piece of shit
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>>9194852
also im not from europe im from south america, chile
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>>9194839
There has been proven that money and circumstance does have an aspect of diminishing returns when it comes to happiness.

I mean, I work less in terms of hours, but use that time to potter around in my garden with my veggies which, being homegrown are far more filling and nutritious than from a shop, meaning I can have a veggie broth that is about 4 dinners and costs nothing.

One thing that I've started doing is paying for things in 'hours worked' rather than money. A washing machine and dryer could cost something like 70 hours of work, but I'd much rather not work those 70 hours and wash by hand or pay a few quit and the local laundrette.
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>>9194839
that's not really stoicism so much as it is the dudebro bastardization of stoicism because and i am saying this unironically they did not start with the fuckin greeks.

stoicism's popularity has a lot less to do with introspection or whatever and a lot more to do with the neckbeard fascination with characters like ron swanson where instead of realizing that the archetype is being mocked they just sorta... agree with it?

so anyways that's not what stoicism is and the fact that that's the common public perception is mostly because nerds are fucking terrible
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>>9194839
having a wife or working for a living or caring for offspring is the 'cuck and proud' philosophy.
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>>9194918
who are you caliing that "dudebro version stoic"?
some anon in here? who and why?
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>>9194892
Do you know this lad?

http://earlyretirementextreme.com/

Seems like you'd like him.
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>>9189870
>I can't have fun becaude I'm an autistic sperg so no one else should either

Surprised he is mentioned this rarely here tebehe.
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>>9194892
the nations with more wealth have more depressed people, there most be souce on this somewhere because im pretty sure of have read it lots of times
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>>9194937
I don't know of him, but I'll stick it in my bookmarks for later.

>>9194965
I remember the study as well, I'm sure I saw it somewhere. I think the conclusion was something along the lines of: when the immediate needs are met (food, water, shelter, security) then you shift to find other problems.

I think this is what it behind First World Problems, and why they cause so much mental illness. By their nature they have no actionable solution, because even though starving is terrible you know that to alleviate it you need to eat. How do you explain to your lizard brain that you need to work extra to afford run the car you use to get to work in the first place?
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>>9195001
>then you shift to find other problems
I wonder why this happens, maybe, our brains want us to find some kind of truth only visible after "immediate needs are met", but our brains fail to realize they are not that cool like to find absolute truths or something like that
desu just start taking lamotrigine before your brain starts going overclock and bonkers
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>>9190118
Hardly innocent.
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>>9190269
>and remember Thrasymachus was right.
I beg to fucking differ, Mister.
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>>9190118
>innocent people
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>>9195025
kek
anyone has the samhyde version of unabomber?
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>>9191267
>>9194799
because it's wrong? nick shitposts online all day while his asian waifu provides for him
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>>9195071
no one is perferct, fuck off frog
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>>9192137
I prefer not to be impotent.
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I'm sorry.
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>>9189982
tao lin
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>>9195442
Here's how Bernie can still win: The Author
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>>9195471
underrated
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>>9189870
No.
>Need it to write
>Enjoy watching vids on Youtube
>Enjoy keeping track of my book sales (however few it may be)
>Enjoy /lit/ and /k/
>Enjoy watching movies and listening to music when drunk
>Enjoy occasionally gaming though doing so less and less lately
>Enjoy chatting with friends and coming up with ideas for writing

I don't want to remove so much enjoyment from my life, nor do I want to be denied my one real method of writing. Doing so with pen and paper would for one thing be very uncomfortable given how much I write, it would be slower since I can type 60-80 words per minute, and my handwriting SUCKS so it would also be incredibly difficult to read!

>No.
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>>9190204

You can't learn a procedure for doing life correctly but you can learn enough about how life actually works to build up a desire to off yourself.

Think about it: In the first place, you can't really be sure of the fundamental "realness" of anything or ever really figure out if anything is actually happening. This is a little bit true of your visceral senses but it's especially true of what you read or infer from other hearsay. People could be lying to you from omission at any time and you would never have the means to actually figure it out.

Then, you have the fact that even if there was such a thing as value, that it generally comes in different type that conflict with each other, making life an unending series of dilemmas. And just because the dilemmas are subjective to you doesn't mean they aren't real.

The most fundamental dilemma is that, as far as what I know and what most other people think has been figured out, is that the existence of your entire consciousness is itself dependent upon acquiring resources to keep your body metabolized, and you are in this shell called a "body" that has to exert energy to somehow get food, whether it's be self-subsistent (rare nowadays) or being useful to somebody else and having a job to get money to get food.

You are also hopelessly dependent upon the rest of humanity and the rest of your environment in order to keep this metabolism going. The feeding of as many people are being fed is dependent upon mass industrial farming, and if it all went away SOMEBODY would be dying and it would probably include you. So you have to participate in society to a certain extent even if you think it's super lame. That or grow your own food and risk starving if one disease gets into your crop harvest.

You'll learn that one day it will all be over, and the worst part is that some groups are telling you that you will be tortured forever AFTER you die, and if you pick the wrong one of these groups you'll still be tortured forever or be subjected to some terror that is so ridiculously awful that you would do anything to avoid it. It's only probably false, so you have that possibility to think about too.

Life is ridiculously bad and I hope I don't have to live it again.
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>>9195543
man, I just dont care, dont get fixed on all that
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>>9190118
>The guy in your pic, OP, was a mentally ill retard who killed innocent people, he is shit, he is nothing,
i don't understand how you can post your first paragraph, "we need war, we need struggle", then cry about kaczynski killing people.

what do you think war and struggle entail, you utter fucking retard???
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>>9190118
if anything, kaczynski struggled in his life far more than you ever will. you have a paltry understanding of your own philosophy
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>>9192137
kill yourself, you soulless creature
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Maybe uploading it to youtube as a mixtape/album or whatever could be a good idea?
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>>9195753
sorry wrong thread, pls dont ban me
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>>9195758
>thinking you can get banned for an off-topic post
lurk for fifteen years before posting, newfag
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>>9195762
it has happened to me before
i dont know why but mods hate
or maybe im just paranoid
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>>9190118

>One of the smartest mathematicians in the world at one point
>mentally ill retard
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>>9190118
>fight and never stop fighting
the unabomber did just that you dumbass faggot
I'm not defending the unabomber I'm just saying that calling someone worthless because they killed people is completely against your ideology of militant heroism
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i want people to keep replying to my posts desu
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>>9194810
>Stop thinking in images.
No one actually does this right?
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>>9195657
kek
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>>9190212
>le buddhism meme
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>>9195543
Nigga, you sound depressed as fuck
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Start with the greeks, but

>living in an organic centre of capitalism
don't stop until Marx

otherwise you'll look at the star wondering what's you place, and never understand the ultimate conclusion of the meditations of marcus aurelius

>you are what you deform
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