Debating someone's solipsism

>>9188356
the universe is MY will.

the universe is MY will

now what?

The universe is everyone's will.

>>9188364
>everyone's

dropped

>>9188356
while objective truth exists it may be impossible to truly ascertain
therefore yes, your conscious experience and subjective truths are the most relevant to you as a human being
however your will is based on a hollow sham- since you cannot provide value for yourself, all conclusions being subjective- and will never bring you true satisfaction or knowledge
so good luck with that

>>9188360
>>9188362
And I am the spook.

>>9188364
no, no, no. What you were trying to say is this: Everyone can say and must say "The universe is my will". By saying that the universe is everyones will,
you're implying there is more than one Will in the universe, which is false. Nice try though.
The universe is my will.

The universe is my willy

Neither the saint, the genius, nor the philosopher need to debate you

let's say your universe is your will.
but my universe is my will

prove me wrong

I always considered solipsism to be the philosophy of retards. Like, do you have a single shred of evidence to support your bullshit?

The universe is will.

>>9188356
I can't. You win. or i win because it's MY will. Who cares.

>>9188404
>Like, do you have a single shred of evidence to support your bullshit?
Yes, and it's called solipsism!

>>9188404
there's no philosophy that has a single shred of evidence. it's all just brain farts

This is working on the assumption that "The world is my will" is a solipsistic phrase, which it objectively isn't. Schopenhauer's pure subject knows that the world is not merely his will, but that the will emanates through him. People that never escape the veil and individuation can take this phrase purely solipsistically, but for pure subjects that reach objective states they know it's only the base level of reality to say "I am all." It's much better to say "I am nothing."

>>9188419

But why insist on evidence? Are you prosecuting a legal claim?

>>9188492
Stop being an idiot. Everything in life requires evidence.
>I should just from a window and fly
>Wait! There's no evidence that humans can fly, you will die!
>evidence shmevidence

>>9188404
>>9188419
>>9188498
>hurr I didn read duh books so u hav no argument XD XD
Why do people who have no eye for philosophy join these threads? It'll look less like bullshit if you actually explore the discipline and stop tipping those fedoras

>>9188382
There isn't more than one will- everyone has the same Will.

>>9188522
Why are you getting so upset with your own will, solipcuck?

>>9188522
do you have one?

i'll kiss your ass for the rest of my days if you can give me a single shred of evidence for any philosophical theory

>>9188498

But you're speaking metaphorically. You say there must be evidence because there are "natural laws" which accord with mathematical laws, thereby providing the epistemological basis for science. But all you have done is appropriated the legal idiom.

>>9188356
Who are you even arguing with dipshit?

>>9188356
>Hey can you match your undefined and interchangeable terms against mine and when we're done jerking each other off we'll go back to our respective lives just as useless as before.

>Literature and philosophy

>>9188551
Schopenhauer's evolutionary theory and ideas on species essentially became formalized in Darwin. So they have as much support as that theory does.

>>9188541
Go back to Al Andalus, Averroes.

>>9188356
"The world is a dream of which we are all the sole dreamer."
Andrey Tarkovsky

>>9188636
This somehow seems more about loneliness than solipsism. Maybe because it already presumes a we and all

>>9188498
Scientism at work.

The scientific method is for the falsifiable. Philosophy is not falsifiable, if it is it has effectively become something else. You can not mix the two by dismissing philosophy because you can't apply the scientific method to it. That's some "I retweet Neil DeGrasse Tyson and my favorite Facebook page is IFL Science" tier shit.

>>9188636
There's a contradiction. There can only be one sole dreamer, and that dreamer's me.

>>9188657
Who gets to decide whats falsifiable and what isn't? Any decision done by humans stems from explicit environmental factors and implicit cognitive functions, and therefore becomes a subject of scientific inquiry

>>9188984
You don't get to decide what's falsifiable or not, things simply are or aren't and usually it isn't hard to find out which

>>9188356
Why are there things outside of your control?

>>9188419
If logic is just brain farts then so is maths,. If maths is rubbish then you can't have physics, if you can't have physics you can't have biology, geology, astronomy etc. If philosophy is bunk then you don't get to have science.

>>9189916
nigga

>>9188492
This. Reliance of 'science' on Latinate legal forms. Is the Earth on trial?

>>9188356

you, and your faggot argument don't exist.

>>9188602
D I P S E T

>>9188628
are you the white dude with the history of philosophy podcast that's obsessed with getting cucked by muslim philosophers

>>9188356

THE WORLD AS YOUR WILL =/= SOLIPSISM

that's why it's will AND representation

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>>9188356
We are all one god in different parts. Like cells in a man.

>>9188356
>The universe is my will.
and yet you chose one in which 4chan exists, and you chose to post on it

>>9190378
>that's why it's will AND representation

the phrase you're referring to is "Die Welt als Wille und Vorstellung". The first sentence of this book is "Die Welt ist meine Vortstellung": "The world is my idea/imagining/representation". You're misunderstanding the word "Vorstellung".

t. someone who speaks Geman

only sensible objects can be determinately willed, so there's no such thing as a will unless there's an external universe

>>9188356
Didn't this dummy say gravity was a product of his will?

>>9190378
It's the world as will and representation because the world consists of both noumenon (will) and phenomena (representation). Reread your Schops.

>>9188356
We are all independent, special beings, and the universe is all of our will. We are a network of extremely important organisms, colliding and meeting constantly in the most beautiful symphony of existence.

>>9190456
>>9190505

>"To deny the reality of the external world is the meaning of solipsism, which regards as phantoms all phenomena outside its own will, thus in it man regards and treats only his own person as a real person, and the rest mere phantoms."
>"Solipsism, of course, can never be refuted by proofs, yet in philosophy it has never been used otherwise other than as a skeptical sophism (for the sake of appearance). As a serious conviction, it can be found only in a madhouse, and it needs not so much a refutation as a cure."

solipsism eternally btfo

Setting them on fire usually changes their mind.

>>9190823
Source/page/section numbers?

It just sounds like every1 is a joker and no1 really cares about dis topic..