Where could we go after postmodernism?

You know what, fuck 4chab and all it's inhabitants I'm hojghvj fugkxrnccmtmm
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>>9167154
Probably Neo Modernism or something along those lines. Irony is out; sentiment is in.

>>9167160
I see you've been reading my diary

To the used bookstore for some good ol' classics.

>>9167160
ARE U READY 2 FEEL

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One possibility:

Robotics. Acceleration. Infinite self-optimization. Skills. And, the alternative; human obsolescence.

That the computers are not going to need us. I think it's mostly going to be about staying ahead of the curve. For sure, there will be infinite subversion stuff and other groupthink, but I think the right thing to do will be trying to avoid letting a robot become your boss. In a sense there is a kind of robot there already - capital - but my guess is that that mechanism only intensifies and becomes more clear.

>tfw landian hyperstition

>>9167191
Whoops, I guess OP meant in a literary sense. Heh heh.

>i'll show myself out now

the end of literature, part 1
following a brief intermission, literature part 2 will begin with a 10,000 line epic poem about drug wars in Papua New Guinea

A recovery of the ideas and literature of the Middle Ages in the public consciousness, a "Renaissance of the Medieval," as I think Spengler put it.

This will also be accompanied by a rediscovery of genuine religion, especially Christianity. I expect that one or more major miracles will occur to mark this.

Neo-neo-classicism.

>>9167154
We're not going to last that long as a society. We are experiencing the fourth turning, millions will be purged, society will be rebuilt from the ground up.

Supramodernism.

>>9167154
I wouldn't bother with this question, unless you feel post-modernism fails to describe today's world.

If you ask me, Society of the Spectacle and the Medium is the Massage still adequately describe the world we live in. Technology might have new forms, but the underlying principles are remaining the same. Relationships mediated through image and text.

By your image you seem to misunderstand postmodernism by putting DFW and Eggers with the postmoderns.
It's already going to new sincerity - post postmodernism, the coming back of sentimentality while still recognizing the "fakeness" of art and literature. Read about Performatism,

>>9167154
bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk

Also >>9167660 100x over (can't speak for Eggers though)

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>>9167154
Pre-emptive modernism. Everything has already happened (eternal recurrence) Artists simply have to realize this and study it enough to create visionary work.

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Utopian Catholic Theo-Socialism

Metamodernism

>>9167154

Based Patchen

>>9167154
Schizomodernism

we have to go back

>>9167435
> unless you feel post-modernism fails to describe today's world
Heh. Post-modernism fails even to wipe his own ass, looking at shit stains instead like a retarded kid.

It is a beaten idea that we are heading the new Medieval era in which many unconnected groups divided by new estates system and inability to work on common language exist. Smart people have no option to organize the ever increasing stream of knowledge to make any big picture of science (as it's not just not encouraged, but also considered unneeded) and resort to working inside the existing borders of their narrow fields (which also isn't good for science at all), and common folk are safely sheltered inside the consumerist heaven having no need to communicate with anyone about any meaningful difference, slowly rotting because of their own uselessness (and producing dangerous mental diseases).

>>9167154
Prefuturism

>>9167201

But you're right.

Maybe not in the next movement or the one after, but AI is going to produce art that will be directly tailored to the reader.

>>9168276

William S Burroughs already existed

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>>9167154
You use those pages for literally wiping your ass. That's where you go from it.

I also agree that it's New Sincerity. Proof is that the Facebook page "Wholesome Memes" is thriving and although its one of few I think it represents an attitude that suggests a longing to deviate from cynicism, irony, nihilism, etc. as a means to find comfort in genuine / sincere attitudes.

New Sincerity will be the comfiest zeitgest to live in. No more of this selfie culture crap.

>>9169018
i hope this happens. can't wait for all the post-ironic bullshit to end. i want to be sincere again.

>>9168999
.....epic....................

>>9168257
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Back to Modernism

>>9168999
no shit

i think we'll go back down the slope we came up, following the historical artistic movements that led us here in reverse until we return to the primitive works of our distant ancestors. I personally look forward to a return to melodramatic naturalism.

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>>9169018
Knausgaard is the prophet of New Sincerity we need.

>>9168257
yup. it's already happening.

>>9169018
You actually need to be on several layers of irony to truly appreciate "Wholesome Memes".

>>9169988

Not really. It's just understanding that it counters the general depressive discourse this generation relishes in making it absurd and therefore funny. I supposed funny in an ironic way but I think there is a longing for sincere wholesomeness in that ironic response. Because I think depressed people generally long for "comfy" things.

I.E: R9K's obsession with "comfy threads"

>>9167745
Wew, is Rupi Kaur the first prophet?

>>9167745
Not a Rupi Kaur fan but I agree with your post.

Postmodernism 2.0 could simply be Iterative Modernism. As a society, we intuitively know that we have solved a great many problems and we are going to continue to do so. Something is happening that is larger than us, and it thirsts for capital. Perhaps that is all that is required, to pay attention to that.

And not to become complete psychopaths in the process, that would be nice too. Just good practitioners of whatever it is that we always-already enjoy doing.

>>9168363
Hey, if you read Lyotard's "Towards the Post Modern", he has pretty much this exact same position on knowledge and the state of science. Specifically societies drive to create "experts", who know increasingly more and more about less and less.

>>9167169
This

>>9167154
Esoteric Vishnu Hitlerism

>>9167169
My God, this.

>>9167154
The Last Psychiatrist.

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>>9167169
fuck off reddit, modernism is equally as dead, its been torn apart by the post modernists to the point you can never have genuine sentiment again without it coming off as incredibly naive.
>>9167154
traditional/romantic revival

You havent read DFW, have you?
We go to bunburying

>>9169018
new sincerity is delusion, self administered tranquillizer.

>>9167154
>>9172292

>>9172280
The whole point of post modernism is to tear down but it offers nothing in return. A little irony and cynicism never hurt anyone but don't throw sentiment and authenticity out with the bathwater.

>>9172359
>The whole point of post modernism is to tear down but it offers nothing in return
tear down modernism
what we do from there is up to us
the issue is we are still clinging to the ideas of modernism and unable to let go
only by completely reverting to the pre-modern can we again move forward with sincerity.
I agree with the medieval revival (at least in though/style) in that this is the only way we can bring ourselves to a sort of balance.

>>9167154
New Idealism

>>9167154
Humanist relativity.

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>>9167169
You're telling me literature is going to take a page from Who's The Boss starring Tony Danza, Lifetime movies, and Saved By The Bell as model for teaching generations what to want?

If we consume the Neo-Modernist anaesthetic, our culture and nations are going to be in for a bad time. I don't think true /lit/ standard bearers would allow this. pomo's not dead yet.

>>9172580
Redditors are desperate for new sincerity because it presents an idyllic worldview

>>9167154
transmodernism

>>9172595
Fuck no. It's to restore balance.

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>>9172621
>It's to restore balance.
though illusion
only way to restore balance is to tear down modernism and the enlightenment all together.
in this respect surrealism is very powerful.

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>>9172595
Sure, they're willing to pay for it too. But what does it offer besides stagnation? Is a daily reaffirmation of Our Values something that is going to get us killed? What happens when an artist creates a work that questions the genre?

I'm reminded of Garrison Keillor and Lake Wobegon. It's a farce, but people don't know it. It fetishizes the past and does nothing to move us into the super fucking dangerous future. We're going to choke on our Buttermilk biscuits.

>>9172643
>It fetishizes the past
it creates a false illusion of the past
the past was never sincere and nothing was so straightforward.
I honestly believe that without a spiritual revival post-modernism will continue to remain relevant/dominant, which in the least is enough to keep the ideologs at bay, and I'm unsure if this revival can honestly come from Christianity or any Abrahamic tradition at this point.

>>9172630
I would be all for a New Surrealism. Perhaps because of increased scholarship on Surrealism it will happen.

>>9172804
4chan itself is the surreal/hyperreal incarnate

>>9172715
It can come from Christianity but it could also end up being some wave of empty new age spiritual self help. I hope for Christianity.

>>9172580
i'll take saved by the bell over infinite jest any day

>>9172899
>but it could also end up being some wave of empty new age spiritual self help
it can never come from there because it's empty as you said
it can come from Christianity but I have my doubts, there is just too much baggage there and the structure its built on is rotten.
I hold out hope for Buddhism coming into0 its own in the West, maybe even a "Christian" Buddhism recognizing the role of Jesus as a buddha, a much healthier and frankly more authentic role for him.

>>9172915
I'm honestly surprised by all the IJ in shelf/stack threads. DFW was a well marketed meme.

>>9168409

No, that's called retardism.

>>9167366
>millions will be purged
>the population of the planet is north of 7 billion

So what we're going to have a decent sized war?

define postmodernism

>>9167154
garbage

>>9167154
id be okay with post-modernism just continuing forever...

>>9167154
postpostmodernism.