Friendship

Also hey Girardfag, you're a cool dude.

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I like you too. You should become a teetotaler like me though, or at least not drink excessively. I genuinely worry about people who drink a lot.

I am posting just because girardposter apparently is watching this thread.

This was weirdly touching.

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>tfw only real friends I have are internet friends
oh well

Also hello Girardfag. did you ever finish up that big 17 page long essay you were working on?

Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics also talks about friendship

The White Donkey

Schiller - Die Bürgeschaft

>>9130798
http://4umi.com/nietzsche/zarathustra/14

>>9132142
Came here to post this. Aristotle did nothing wrong.

Montaigne's essay on friendship.

>>9132934
thanks

>>9130798

I'm a fan of Cicero's Laelius de Amicitia.

Also, same sentiments about /lit/ and all of its posters as well. Cheers to you OP. If you ever find yourself in the San Diego area, start a thread here, and I'll get in touch and take you out for a drink.

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>>9130798
OP isn't Girardfag - I am - but he sure sounds like me (and vice-versa). I support that big not gay hug. And the rest of the post.

>>9130801
Thank ye sir.

>>9132029
I *am* but you have no idea how weird it is to read that.

>>9132133
Four pages were enough. I'm going to write the rest of the Total Pseud Guides and put them on a blog at some point, maybe with other essays. Maybe somebody can use them as notes to write some paper somewhere. But I plan on teaching overseas again pretty soon and I have to prepare for that so I probably won't* be on /lit/ too much.

*shouldn't
>tfw you lie, you will be here forever
>tfw i'm okay with this

So yeah, Seneca and Montaigne are good on this subject, as are most of the Stoics. Good night and good luck then, you sexy mothers. And I'm going to pour a drink *right now* and have one too.

http://naomigryn.com/Ebooks/Of-Friendship-Montaigne.pdf

Does anyone know of similar recommendations relating to romantic love and relationships?

>>9135119
Symposium
The Gospels

The Four Loves has a good section on it

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>>9130798
The Gospels. 1 Samuel with David and Jonathan.

Beleg and Turin in The Silmarillion. Unforgotten Tales has a better extended version. And The Children of Hurin has a sort of novel on the story. Christopher Tolkien wrote it in a 'modern' way and ruined the beauty, but still more background and heartbreak in it ;_;

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>>9130798
Epicurus and his maxims shows the true relationship of friendship, and also the last relevant stage of ethics.

>>9130798
There's a section in A Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers by H.D. Thoreau where he talks about friendship. It's really nice. Recently I also read Gravity and Grace by Simone Weil, which has some really touching passages about friendship, like this one:

>It is a fault to wish to be understood before we have made ourselves clear to ourselves. ... Learn to thrust friendship aside, or rather the dream of friendship. To desire friendship is a great fault. ... Every dream of friendship deserves to be shattered. It is not by chance that you have never been loved. ... To wish to escape from solitude is sowardice. Friendship is not to be sought, not to be dreamed, not to be desired; it is to be exercised (it is a virtue).

>>9130798
>I love that you guys all genuinely care about literature and philosophy
Yeah, drunk as fuck.

I took a course in college called Love and Friendship. Recently reached out to the professor for the reading list because I wanted to revisit the texts. If he gets back to me in time I'll post it in this thread. I doubt that will happen, though, so keep an eye out and I'll make a thread for it. He also taught the course I took on Aesthetics and he'll be giving me those readings as well, so those will be included, too. This is all assuming he still has those syllabi (I took these courses almost ten years ago).

>>9130798
The Epic of Gilgamesh (S. Dalley translation)
Three Men in a Boat

Those two look weird next to each other but these are the first things that popped into my head on the subject of friendship.

>>9134739
you're welcome.

>>9137040
so nice