>I am a sick man ... I am an icky man. What did he mean by this?

alternate timeline fart poetry

When you get sick you get boogers on you.

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>>9130525

Spite my shit up dostofam

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that he was addicted to masturbation just like I am

>>9130525
>icky

A vague choice of word, but not misleading like 'wicked'

>>9131381
>but not misleading like 'wicked'

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>>9131741

Hello Richard

Seriously, whats wrong with 'evil'?
Spiteful is such a stupid fucking word

'I am just... the grossest. Just yuck.'
~ Fyodor Dostoevsky

No one knows what it's like to be the sick man, to be the icky man, behind beard beard eyes.

>>9132360
It's too dignified. There's a kind of stature to 'evil' to which it'd be necessary for the character to rise. He never does.

The Hugh Aplin translation says 'malicious', though, which I think is right.

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>>9130525

>>9132434
>malicious
I dont feel that it's right. English speakers may correct me, but I always felt that 'malicious' has a sense of outward action, someone who seeks to cause harm and cruelty to others. 'Zloy', especially in the context of a story, describes a self-destructive man who does more damage to himself

>>9132492
I don't say it's one for one, but it plays the same kind of role in that context (I think). It imparts a sense of being impressed with, and admiring of, one's own ills. It provides the contradiction: he moves as though to criticise himself but phrases the criticism grandly; as though to declare himself not only base, but impressively, estimably base.

An alternative might be 'vile', but I think this might be too functional as a criticism, and not functional enough as an, as it were, token of esteem.

>>9132360

But that's what describes the Underground Man throughout the book: 'spiteful' is exactly the word to capture his thoughts and actions, not 'evil'
This >>9132492 is insightful too

>>9130525
Is that from an actual translation?

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>>9130549
Fuck off back to your Irish hole, Joyce.