What is some essential libertarian literature?

t. Ayn Rand fan trying to force others to read his heroine because he got butthurt by the other thread >>9113352

The only good thing a libertarian could hope to write is a suicide note.

>>9113812
Actually no, just legitimately curious. I just found that other thread and felt stupid for making this one.

>>9113820
Rand denied being a libertarian.

Objectivism =! libertarianism.

I know a lot of libertarians adore her, but they're just stupid

>>9113826
Sorry for misjudging you then

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You're a libertarian? This might be right up your alley.

>>9113827
Rand is a libertarian. I don't care what she says. This is like how Marx said he wasn't a Marxist. Useless word games.

>>9113971
>communist humor

>>9113794
Not really a lot of fiction comes to mind, but here is some none fiction that goes at least in that direction:
Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell
Free to Chose by Milton Friedman
Liberalism: In Classical Tradition by Ludwig von Mises
The Law by Frederic Bastiat
Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek
On Liberty by John Stuart Mill
Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt
Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
Common Sense by Thomas Paine
Anarchy, State, and Utopia by Robert Nozick
The Machinery of Freedom by David Friedman
The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Great Depression and the New Deal by Robert P. Murphy

Some more AnCa stuff:
Democracy the God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Against the State: An Anarcho-capitalist Manifesto by Lew Rockwell
The Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard

Some Conservative literature that could interest you:
Conscience of a Conservative by Barry Goldwater
God and Man at Yale by William F. Buckley
Ideas have Consequences by Richard Weaver
Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville
The Crisis of the House Divided by Harry Jaffa
The Federalist & the Anti-Federalist papers
Witness by Whittaker Chambers
Reflections on the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke

>>9113794
1984
Orwell respected the desire for freedom moreso than most respected freedom thinkers. The only difference between what Orwell believed and what today's definition of a libertarian believes is that he was a socialist.

Ayn Rand writes like shit even if I agree with what she says.

Read Wealth of Nations if you haven't yet, first book best book.

Try Kroptokin, Luxemburg, Proudhon, Benjamin Tucker, and Carson. Tucker, Carson, and Proudhon are probably more akin to what you're looking for specifically. Also, no fiction if that is what you were looking for.

>>9114040
He was an Anarcho-Syndicalist and supported Catalonia.

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>>9113794

>>9114040
Fucking hell, I knew that nu-/lit/ was stupid, but I didn't think it was THIS bad. Fuck me.

>>9114006
>if you're not a libertarian, you must be a communist
this is your brain on rothbard

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>>9115029
lol'd

>>9114031
I hadn't read them but David Friedman has written two fantasy novels. Don't know how much they promote libertarian ideals but they seem as close as you could get.

>>9113971
>Haha when your neighbor bombs your house with a predator drone™ after you stepped on his lawn so you retaliate with a tactical nuclear strike haha classical liberalism is still liberalism kys cuck natsoc ftw

>>9115097
http://www.notbeinggoverned.com/who-will-build-the-roads/

>>9115153
www.doyouknowwhatajokeis.com

>>9115396
www.doyou.com

>>9113794
Theres no such thing. Libertarianism is the most fedora tier philosophy there is besides mens rights activism

>>9115530
You're fedorable.

>>9115540
he's also correct

Libertarianism seems to be an American phenomenon limited to Tool listeners, puzzle piece spectrum people and humvee folks.

>>9113794
I'm 24 and never read them. I get the gist... Am I missing out on not reading them? Is it worth it for the bantz and the memes?

>>9115692
just drink Mountain Dew and watch a few hours of Milton Friedman videos. you'll know as much as 95% of people who call themselves "Libertarian."

>>9114031
Great post and list.

>>9114031
>The Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard
>Murray "sell your kids" Rothbard

I love Atlas Shrugged, and I'm a conservative-liberal.

I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”


“Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”

The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”

“Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”

“Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”

He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”

“Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”

>>9118204
I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.

“Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.

“Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.

“Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”

It didn’t seem like they did.

“Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”

Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.

I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.

>>9118208
“Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.

Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.

“Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.

I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”

He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

“All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”

“Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.

“Because I was afraid.”

“Afraid?”

“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”

I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.

“Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”

He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.

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>>9118213
Source? I seriously want this to be an actual

>>9118218
novel.

>>9118225
its from he new yorker. a short story by Tom O'Donnell

>>9113794
Neuromancer :^)

Also, Atlas Shrugged is a good book that requires interpretation. People nitpick it and bitch about stuff like "Galt is literally superhuman, it's impossible to be Galt." Yeah, okay, but the idea is to let the idea of Galt inspire you to be great regardless of the diseased state of your surroundings. "Oh bloo bloo Rearden just gave up the metal formula that's not how real humans operate." They're not real humans, they're larger than life, near-mythical embodiments of behavior, like Odysseus or Aragorn.

That said Objectivism is stupid and just because AS and Rand's writings are excellent morality tales doesn't mean that the conclusions she drew from pointed observations are true or even cohere.

>>9115530
This is not true as long as communism exists.

Hand to God, right now I will tell you that I have met dozens of real self-identifying Communists, and not a single one spoke without that classic stammer/terseness that demonstrates autism. I'm not even trying to meme right now, I'm just being honest. Every single Communist I've ever met was autistic, somewhere on the spectrum.

My personal belief is that Communism, which posits that if everyone just stopped being whatever and started being X, where X = {set of communist rules/beliefs} the world would be perfect, meshes super well with the autistic tendency to define the world around them by rigid rules that should never be broken. Autistic people are also shown to have severe problems with theory of mind, ie understanding that they are surrounded by other people with their own minds and thoughts and consciousness. This would then explain why Communists think that imposing their rule system on others should be simple and easy, because they can't quite theorize full consciousness in others.

tl;dr I've noticed a correlation between Communist thought and autism in others and posit a theory for why that might be the case.

>>9118257
if I was a rich man I would fund research into this. Unfortunately I'm not rich because I'm a communist.

>>9113794
Locke
Bastiat
Mises
Hayek
Friedman (Milton and David)
Rothbard
Nozick
Rockwell
Hoppe

Can someone please post the \lit\ list of 2016 books for me please?

>>9113820
What then is the correct political opinion then glorious leader?

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>>9113794
>mf when Rothbard said: "not merely the greatest novel ever written, [but] one of the very greatest books ever written, fiction or nonfiction." HA-HA-HA

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Not that.

Try:
Principles of Economics - Menger
The Road to Serfdom - Hayek
Man, Economy and State - Rothbard

Democracy: the God that Failed

>>9119019
>Principles of Economics - Menger
This book is a cornerstone of the concept of marginality, something used by almost every economist in the 20th century. It is most certainly NOT a piece of 'libertarian' literature.

Please do not include this book in some fedora meme culture of people who voted for Ron Paul and memed this retard into office.

>>9120442
>https://mises.org/library/principles-economics
Yeah, it's libertarian.

>>9120463
Oh it's in a university founded by an AUSTRIAN economist. Wow it must be libertarian. The institute itself is libertarian, but the reason they included this book, is because it influenced Ludwig Von Mises a lot. Who, by the way, was NOT a libertarian.

>>9118204
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>>9118213
amazing

>>9119067
>Democracy: the God that Failed

what do people think of this book? I listened to this dude on YouTube a little and I was pretty underwhelmed...

>>9114102
>no fiction
Heinlein. Starship Troopers was fascist, but The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is considered a libertarian classic by many.

>>9120638
>no fiction

Right-Libertarianism is all fiction

>>9120777
>reality is fiction

>>9120777
Trip sevens for a triple lel.

>>9113820

Not an argument.

>>9114031
Thanks

>>9113794
This is one of the few books I read that felt like I wasted my time. I've read a thousand+ books.

My diary

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Not sure if this is the right thread, but is this worth reading?

>>9113794
The moon is a harsh mistress

Fifty Shades of Grey. It is basically Atlas Shrugged fan fiction.

>>9124734
kek

>>9113794
Dude, holy fuck, there is nothing "essential" about that moldy tome.

I read all 1200 pages of that actual gibberish and it's one of the few things I regret having done in my entire life

>>9125879
Nice b8.

>>9124466
>it's

DROPPED

>>9127281
Wow. Seriously, that is embarrassing.

>>9115020
You know libertarianism abroad is a form of socialism right? Starting with the assumption that government authority is unjustified. Private property is a statist notion and defies the NAP

>>9127293
>Private property
>needing a state

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>>9127311
what

>>9118257
Maybe that's why communism never works. Because actual autists are doing it.

>>9115692
Just play bioshock, at least you'll be doing something better

>>9113794
McDonalds menu

McDonalds menu

>>9127420
Private property could exist without the state, but it needs to cooperation of society and strict adherence to punishment of trespassers.
Ideally if someone trespasses on your land that should be seen as a violation of the NAP and failure to remove themselves should be met with death.

I don't really understand the hate some liberals/leftists harbour for libertarians. I find some of them to be pedantic, but actual libertarians (i.e. not authoritarians masquerading as ancaps) will generally engage with you if you don't start your argument with HEY AUTIST GO FUCK FRIEDMAN'S CORPSE

>>9114031
>Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt
A lot of this is deeply rooted in cold war politics and comes off as dated.
>Anarchy, State, and Utopia by Robert Nozick
IIRC Nozick is more anarcho-capitalist than libertarian.
>The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Great Depression and the New Deal by Robert P. Murphy
The P.I.G. series is little more than a debate guide of talking points. Not that they're *bad* but it would be better to just digest the Friedman, Hayek and so on that they're based on.

>God and Man at Yale by William F. Buckley
Again, mostly rooted in cold war politics. Good for understanding the history of the movement but not much else.
>Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville
This is more a primer on classical liberalism than conservatism. A good non-reactionary conservative viewpoint should be based on enlightenment ideals but Tocqueville isn't a conservative in the way we conceive them now.
>The Federalist & the Anti-Federalist papers
See above for The Federalist. The Anti-Federalist Papers are mostly local 18th Century American politicians saying "no u" with really big words

>>9124466
There are good criticisms of the negative impacts of technological progress but this isn't one of them.

>>9128145
This is basically tribalism, you know that right?
Same thing as when a bunch of Libyans with AKs pile into technicals to shoot at another group of Libyans they saw trespassing on their tribal lands.

Mcdonalds menu

McDonalds Menu 8th edition - Ronald and Grimace

>>9115020
>I'm so smart that I don't have to contribute anything to the conversation

At least other anons say something regarding the topic and not "HURR IM 2 SMRT 4 THIS THRED" while posting in said thread. kys

Reminder that (((libertarianism))) is left-wing.

>>9113794
nothing by ayn rand

Anarchy, State, and Utopia by Robert Nozick is essential

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>>9130344
mein n word

>>9113794

>>9130344
this is true OP

you should take this to heart

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>>9113794
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>>9118941
...what?

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>>9130344
>>9130377
>>9130383

>>9130407
not an argument

>>9118204
>>9118208
>>9118213

My fucking sides

>>9118654
Anarcho-Egoism ofc

>>9115692

There's some legitimately moving moments in all of Rand's novels, but there's also a lot of fluff and overwritten philosophical monologs. I'd start with The Fountainhead, because it has the most engaging characters, most of her really good passages, and also some incredibly fanfiction-tier scenes.

>And then he told the bad guy, "lel I don't care wat u think"
>And then he built a building *so epic* that it was, like, the human spirit and stuff
>And he was so awesome that the people who hated him all eventually became his friends, and they had a picnic together, and they all went, "wow, mister architect man, you're so cool"

Overall, 6/10, did read again. It's the best snapshot of Rand, and a pretty fun ride.

>>9130362
Nozick is GOAT tier.

>>9114031
Great post. On topic. Relevant.
>MFW Libritatianism is fantasy lit