Prescriptivism vs. Descriptivism

the english language is a fucking joke

>>9106494
why do white people hate everything about themselves?

its okay guys, we forgive you for being white can you stop now. its gettin weird

>>9106512

Are you assuming xeir race?

>>9106494
You're trying to stir up shit up but if you actually read him right he's not wrong.
AA who can switch between AAE and regular english are, in a certain way, more "linguistically sophisticated"
He never said AAE was more sophisticated as a dialect (it's not)

>>9106527
Also prescriptivism > descriptivism

But that is not what he is saying, is he? He is just pointing out the differences between AAE and GAE (or whatever). Though I would contend that only very privileged (ie., less than 1%) don't have to do any 'code switching', and even then most will (eg. when talking to their parents as opposed to their friends). And setting all that aside, this is a very curious privilege to have, since tribes living in dense rain forests have it too. I would almost argue it to be a disability, since having to think about what you say (ie. consider whether you have to code switch) promotes linguistic development.

>>9106494

>red dude instantly making the connection between lack of aesthetic value and immorality

P A T R I C I A N

>>9106494
Am i also linguistically sophisticated because i dont call people faggots and niggers in real life but i do when shitposting on 4chan?

>>9106494
Prescriptivism is objectively wrong. That's literally not how language works. This guy is describing it terribly, though.

File: image.png (133KB, 562x472px) Image search: [Google]

133KB, 562x472px

>>9106527
>>9106557
>>9106708
This thread is supposed to be about black inferiority, bluepilled idiots

>>9106532
>>9106708

I'm a prescriptivist. I understand that some level of graduation is necessary, when we consider technology and science, for instance, but the notion of permitting 'he be writing' is patently absurd.

I would be all for bring back the 2P of Thou and its conjugation of -(e)st. Heck, I love cases; I would be happy to revive the previous 4 cases English, instead of our current accusative limited to pronouns and 'whom'.

>believing that Latin grammar is English grammar

Prescriptivists never fail to crack me up. Which is not the same thing as saying, they never fail to up-crack me.

Or, to rephrase in a way that prescriptivists might tolerate:

Prescriptivists never me to-crack-up are-deficient, which not is never me upwards to-crack are-deficient.

Blacky speech is made to sound dumb, as being academic.in any way is seen as "acting white."

Its not wrong, its just dumb. We wuz scholahz n shiet

>>9107468

Or I suppose a more precise translation into lingua perscriptivista would be, Perscriptivists never me to-crack-up are-deficient, which not is to-say them never me upwards to-crack to-be-deficient.

>>9107468
That's why I operate on Orwell's premise of break any rules before writing something barbaric.

Ultimately, I would say that the platitude of 'crack me up' would be replaced with something less cliche or metaphorically lost.

Yeah I remember when I was reading The Bluest Eye's by Toni Morrison and every character including the narrator was speaking in ebonics.

Except that didn't happen because she is actually a professional writer.

>>9107488

Orwell's premise is pretty good, but I suppose that I prefer my own, which is to break any rules that make your ("one's", if you prefer) speech uglier, and especially those whose breaking will trouble the hemorrhoids of petty academics.And I have always found "to crack (oneself) up" to be an attractive phrase, though it is a cliche. I suppose you might use instead the now-disused variant, "to break (oneself) up."

The last line isn't necessarily true; linguists don't use prescriptivism because their job is to observe, not that they think it's objectively wrong to do. Prescriptivism is useful for better comprehension. It'd be a nightmare if people ignored defined rules in business, health, government, military, et cetera, don't you think?

>>9107510

Nah, our system of ethics should only be modeled on the observation on how people behave day-to-day rather than any form of concrete immutable laws.

They are. Rap has animated English in the last 10 years alone more than anything Anglo-Saxons have done in the last 100.