what a goddamned moron. i'm not saying there aren't better things than bringing yourself to orgasm, but socrates has to come up with a dumb story about pleasure binding the soul to the body to justify his hatred of (i'm assuming) dudes who got to fuck more little boys than him.
at the very least, living a good & virtuous life should most often result in a life of consistent and moderate pleasure. ANYTHING but these ethics of abnegation. can't believe this is the faggot who "grounds the tradition" or w/e
>>9099392
but didnt socrates drink wine and stuff?
So he couldnt have made the statement absolute? Do you have an excerpt or quote? Was he only talking about premarital, non missionary, or non reproductive sex?
>>9099392
I think you're misunderstanding his argument, but it has been a while since I've read Plato. Care to post the passage?
How do you fuck up the Socratic fundamentals so badly?
Nobody fucked more than S, no one drank more, no one killed more people in battle.
It's just socratic reflection and postulation for discourse.
At least you bother to take a stance.
>>9099479
>write something retarded because people are more likely to correct you than help you
oldest trick, senpai a lam desu
>>9099459
People in his day drank weak wine for its water content.
You couldn't drink just water, since it would contain bacteria. It needed to have some alcohol to cleanse it.
When he spoke about sex and love (as quoted by Plato), he says something about bad lovers pleasing the body, and good lovers pleasing the soul. And great lovers of course abandon the body, and just please the soul, theirs and their lover's.
>>9099392
He was dumbest in all.
>>9099392
Did he fuck little boys or something?