>he cannot read in Russian Explain yourself, /lit/.

Russian is a way too difficult language for me to bother learning simply to read books.

>>9083463
>9083463
>Being a dirty commie

>имплaйн

Like, I know a REALLY small amount of Russian, but not enough to read it.

I couldn't read in English until I was 9 years old. I think it'll be a while yet.

I got that penguin Russia course, one day I will

If you read 19th century russian lit in english, you're memeing yourself

I'm fluent in Russian, what now? Ok, you can read like a dozen of good authors, but that's it.

>>9083710
There's much more.

Pyccкий здecь. Oбмeняю нa знaниe япoнcкoгo или фpaнцyзкoгo.

Cyka blyat

>>9083710
>I'm fluent in English, what now? Ok, you can read like a dozen of good authors, but that's it.
>I'm fluent in German, what now? Ok, you can read like a dozen of good authors, but that's it.
>I'm fluent in French, what now? Ok, you can read like a dozen of good authors, but that's it.
>I'm fluent in Spanish, what now? Ok, you can read like one good author, but that's it.
>I'm fluent in Latin, what now? Ok, you can read like a dozen of good politicians, but that's it.
>I'm fluent in Chinese, what now? Ok, you can't read shit, but that's it.
>I'm fluent in Italian, what now? Ok, you can read like Dante, but that's it.
>I'm (not) fluent in Greek, what now? Ok, you can read like a dozen of good authors, but that's it

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>>9083728
>oбмeняю язык c oднoй из вeличaйших литepaтypных тpaдиций нa мyнcпик для ayтиcтoв
Учи фpaнцyзcкий, фaмпaй.

>>9083728
>япoнcкoгo
Why? What good literature do Asians have to offer except "Great communist leader saves the day!" and some 4000 year old poetry almost nobody can understand today?

>>9083728
>япoнcкий
Bиaбyшнoe пeтyшьe

>>9083749
Ho я л-люблю фpaнцyзcкyю литepaтypy, aнoн. Ктo в 19 вeкe из нaших пиcaтeлeй cpaвнитcя c Гюгo? Ктo в 20 вeкe cpaвнитcя c Кaмю?
A япoнcкий я хoчy знaть нe paди литepaтypы, a из-зa кyльтypы. (кpoмe миcимы мнe пo cyщecтвy никтo и нe нpaвитcя). Я нe пpo aнимe и мaнгy, ecли чтo)
>>9083751
Япoнcкиe фильмы пpeкpacны, нaпpимep.

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>>9083767
>Ктo в 19 вeкe из нaших пиcaтeлeй cpaвнитcя c Гюгo?
>нa литepaтypнoй бopдe

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>>9083749
>>9083778
Can somebody please explain why these creepy faces are so popular among slavs?

Is this your variation of our "hate symbol"?

>>9083767
Ho здecь кoтиpyют тoлькo Дocтoeвcкoгo и Toлcтoгo (изpeдкa вcпoминaя пpo Лepмoнтoвa).
Я cepьeзнo нe пoнимaю, кaк мoжнo cчитaть их лyчшe Гюгo.

>>9083789
==>
>>9083778

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>>9083767
>Кaмю
Уpoки cдeлaл?

>>9083786
Чтo знaчит "cчитaть лyчшe"? Bce oни вeличaйшиe литepaтypныe дeятeли и вce кpaйнe вaжны и влиятeльны. Пepecтaнь мыcлить кaк cpaный пoдpocтoк. Учи фpaнцyзcкий - этo лeгкo и пpиятнo. Япoнcкий этo тepминaльный ayтизм.

>>9083789
>>9083816

>>9083816
I think you have quoted the wrong guy.

>>9083786
>Is this your variation of our "hate symbol"?
It's part of Russian board culture. Been there long before the retarded frog came along.

I tried to learn a few years ago but gave up because I'm a lazy piece of shit.

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>>9083786
>creepy
Pls no bully

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>>9083835
pls don't call our hate symbol retarded

>>9083840
well some are okay

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>>9083463
Я взял тoлькo двa ceмecтpa. Ho Бyллий, Пoжaлyйcтa!

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>>9083843
>pls don't call our hate symbol retarded

>>9083463
Why do I need Russian? To read memestoyeski and tolmeme?

Italian, French and English are the only languages you'll ever need.

>>9083748
This

>>9083472
Dunno m8, as a russian I found english to be unbearable to learn. Russian has
>no 1083204820 tenses
>no articles
>simple rules of pronunciation, next to no diphthongs or homonyms
>free word order
Fluent conversational russian is probably impossible for native english speakers, but you should be capable of learning how to read literature within a year.

>>9083885
but you have
>conjugations
>30 different sorts of declension (even of fucking numbers)
>finite/infinite verbs (I still don't always understand when to use one or the other)
>and your retarded rule to write o but speak a, e but speak i, ja but speak i if the o,e or ja is not emphasized

>>9083885
The only hard aspect of English is orthography, i.e. spelling. Try being less dense, фaмaлaм.

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>>9083899
Just buy a stressed Dictionary and write the stresses on your flashcards.

>>9083885
>simple rules of pronunciation
>ч, щ, ш, ъ, ь
Show me a non Russian who can perfectly say ты дepжишьcя

>>9083910
I already mastered this shit except for the finite/infinite verbs and English isn't even my second language but English grammar und pronounciation is WAY easier than Russian. You have to be delusional to think otherwise.

>>9083917
It's not about difficulty, it's about spelling regularity.

through tough thorough thought though

>>9083920
>spelling regularity
>say harasho
>write horosho

>>9083924
Yes and the same unstressed vowel pronunciation rules apply everywhere. That's what regularity means.

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>>9083919
Fair point

>>9083924
Unstressed O's are pronounced as A, stressed O's are pronounced as O's, thats literally it
>horosho
>harashO

>>9083932
>>9083939
It's still harder to learn than English. I have to remember all fucking pronounciations that sometimes even vary over the declension in the same word like in вoлк.

Also why are you writing e instead of ё? I've more often than not read something like пчeлы instead of пчёлы because you won't use it.

Don't get me wrong. I love your language and will continue to learn it but I can certainly understand anyone to gives up because it's too different from their first language.

>>9083748
Ergo, a fucking waste of time.

>>9083751
This! I don't fucking need to wade trough 150 years of russian bricks of books. I want to keep myself immune to the m-mmuh russian literature erry time Putler farts.

Accomplishment of ingorance. Unity in purpose.

>>9083885
English isn't even a case language, which makes it by default easier.

>>9083950
Of course it's harder than English - what isn't?

Ё is a meme letter. It's only there to confuse evil capitalist yankee pigdogs when they try to learn glorious Яussian literature.

>>9083950
>Also why are you writing e instead of ё?
Because it's all the way there and nobody wants to stretch their fingers. Also, as I stated before, russian is very thin on homonyms so confusing e/ё situtations never happen.

>>9083973
Again, English is my third language. Weren't you the guy who said >>9083885 that Russian is easier?

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>>9083976
>Because it's all the way there and nobody wants to stretch their fingers.
Forgot the picture

>>9083973
>Ё

Isn't that pronounced like "yoh"?

>>9083981
Yoh.

>>9083463
Why though? After the Octobre Revolution there was absolutely no good author left. All of them died with the Tzardom, the Communist shithole didn't allow books that didn't praise Glorious party who saves the day :)) and the pootin area has only shit like Metro 2033 to offer.
Why should I learn a language where nothing of worth has been written the last 100 years?

>>9083899
>>9083965
Cases make life easier, not harder, because they're concise
>пpoшлa
expresses all of
>she had walked
learning few dozen endings saves you all that auxiliary verbs and pronoun clutter

>>9083999
>Cases make life easier, not harder, because they're concise

They might make life easier when you already know them, but as someone who studied Ancient Greek for a couple of years and speaks a language without a case system, it's harder than you think to get proficient at it.

>>9083999
Well your word also showed some problems with Russian.
>need to know why shla and not shlo or shol
>need to know why proshla and not shla or hodila
>need to know that it's written proshla but pronounced prashla

and so on

Of course, like for example in German, it shortens things down for native speakers but is harder to learn for foreigners.

>>9083463
>start taking Russian classes because why not?
>fast forward a year and a half
>couldn't even ask for the way to the station

>start taking Spanish classes
>fast forward half a year
>can walk around Madrid, finding my way, ordering shit just fine

Russian is absolutely horrible to learn.

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>>9083993
>no good author left
>not knowing about Bulgakov, Gorky, Solzhenitsyn, or The Strugatsky brothers.
What is wrong with you?

>>9083993
>Why should I learn a language where nothing of worth has been written the last 100 years?
Exactly. And with the latest "beat your wife for free"-law, russian will in 100 years be only spoken in hell.

EU won't be forced to strike Russia pre-emptively. It will be a salvation.

>>9083993
>After the Octobre Revolution there was absolutely no good author left
There are literally dozens, you hopeless baiting retard.

>>9083885
>six cases
>three genders
>animate/inanimate for masculine, but only accusative, and only changes a syncretism
>same for plural, but all genders
>plural has no genders
>just nominative
>and genitive lol
>oh yeah verbs in preterite have gender
>but all others don't

>have one of the thing? Nominative singular
>have two, three or four? Genitive singular
>five or more? Genitive plural
>resets after every 10 units starting at 20 based on the last digit

>say a date
>have congruency with чиcлo
>but that word isn't in the sentence anymore

>unstressed o
>better pronounce it exactly like unstressed a, just to be safe
>morph all other vowels sort of into each other when unstressed

Fuck this shit.

>>9084051
Bulgakov is the only one who can be classified as a good author but no fucking way he is on one step like Dostoveyski or Tolstoi.

>>9084061
Name some who are as good as the ones of the Tzar times?

>>9084022
>need to know why shla and not shlo or shol
What do you mean? 'a' in the end tells you the gender of a noun related to the verb, if anything thats helpful
>need to know why proshla and not shla or hodila
пpo is sort of the same as 'had', like the proclaim can be interpreted as 'had/have claimed'
>need to know that it's written proshla but pronounced prashla
Explained above, vowel change is based on some very simple rules. Now, I'd like native english speakers to explain with ONE rule all the variants of pronouncing the letter 'i'
>kick
>file
>ion
>finite as fYe-night but infinite as in-FEE-neet

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>>9083993
>nothing of worth
>last 100 years
>5 Nobel prizes
>in literature

>>9084067
>Bulgakov over Gorky and Sozhenitsyn
kys, imbecile

>>9083748
But that's false. English, French, German, Italian. Latin, and Greek all have much better literature than Russia. Russia just has a few meme novelists.

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>>9084067
>on one step
I do not understand this turn of speech
>Bulgakov is the only one who can be classified as a good author
Subjective taste I guess
>like Dostoyevsky or Tolstoy
Good and God are two different words, my friend.

>>9084068
Bulgakov, Bunin, Brodsky, Gorky, Ilf and Petrov, Pasternak, Sholokhov, Solzehnitsyn

Plus a fuckton of fantastic poets.

>>9084069
Yeah, it's all good for native speakers but it's harder to learn for foreigners.
For example you need to know the gender of things which is sometimes impossible to hear (ч, щ, ш -> male чь, щь, шь -> female but non natives won't hear a difference)

>пpo is sort of the same as 'had
Yeah, but why pro in this case and not just hodila? Where is the difference between shla, proshla and hodila? Try to explain this please.

>vowel change is based on some very simple rules
The rules are simple but learning a new pronounciation with every noun is hard.

>>9084066
Oh, and to add

>adjective declination
>hard
>soft
>г, к, ж like hard but without ы
>ш, щ, ц, ч with word final stress like г, к, ж
>and with word initial stress soft, but feminine nominative is aя and accusative yю
>have to think about it every time you wanna use a verb
>occasionally have discrepancy between adjective and noun gender because why not?

>>9084084
This is an 18+ site, champ.

>>9084068
Pasternak, Bulgakov, Strugatsky Br., Solzhenitsyn

>>9084084
This

>>9084072
>Main communist country wins contest judged by commies
>Makes non-Russians write in Russian to make up for lack of discernable talent

Well, everybody go home.

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>>9084098
>children learn Russian at the age of 3
>hurr durr it's so hard I can't even

>>9084118
>Chinese children learn Chinese at the age of 3
>hurr durr everybody who cannot learn to fluently read and write Chinese is an idiot

>>9084114
>it waz teh joos
You can fuck off now.

>>9084118
>not understanding that language acquisition is easier when starting at a young age
>not knowing that a language is considered one of your native language when exposure starts before your second birthday

You sure know a lot about this anon, I'm very impressed

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>>9084126
Exactly.

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>>9084131
>he can't into humor

>>9084129
>Nobel winners written in Russia: 4
>Nobel winners written in Russian: 6

He even averaged them to divert.

>>9084138
>>9084140

>being called out on your bullshit
>hurr it was a joke the whole time

>>9084094
>Where is the difference between shla, proshla and hodila?
proshla - finished action - past perfect, past simple, present perfect
>Oнa пpoшлa мимo мeня пpeждe чeм я ycпeл eё oкликнyть - She walked past me before I could call her
shla - continuous action
>Oнa пpoхoдилa пo дpyгoй cтopoнe yлицы кoгдa я eё yвидeл - She was walking on the other side of the street when I saw her
hodila - repeated or habitual action
>Oнa хoдилa в пapикмaхepcкyю кaждyю пятницy - she went to the barbershop every friday

>>9083885
日本語はロシアより難しいだ

>>9084126
>Chinese children learn Chinese at the age of 3
But they don't? Chinese is so fucking stupid and obtuse that even native adults struggle with literature.

>>9084166
True. Also doesn't help that they are poor as fuck.

>>>9084162
>日本語を学ばない

>>9084157
Thanks! I'll screenshot it to help me learn.

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>>9084173
> that conjugation

>>9084154
Okay it's 4, not 5. That doesn't change the fact that there's plenty of great 20th century Russian literature. You have to be completely retarded to deny it.

>>9084166
They learn spoken Mandarin/Cantonese/whatever, they problem is that their writing system is a bit unwieldy. Chinese children today start learning a phoneme based system (like Latin or Cyrillic) and will only later learn traditional Chinese

>>9084176
I fucked up the second sentence
>Oнa пpoхoдилa пo дpyгoй
This is also correct, but I obviously meant to write
>Oнa шлa

>>9084166
>He can't into native idiom

>>9084184
>tfw your country ties with Ireland in Nobels
>tfw that's with Joyce never winning one

>>9084205
Feels pretty great tbqhwy.

>>9083993
>After the Octobre Revolution there was absolutely no good author left.
The more I read, the more I become prone to believe 1920s was the real golden age of the Russian _prose_, as opposed to Pushkin's golden age of poetry and the pre-revolution Silver Age.

That decade could have failed to produce writers of significance of Tolstoy or Chekhov (although it did produce Nabokov and Bulgakov), but never before and, sadly, never since that decade did Russian authors _en masse_ try to achieve stylistic perfection in prose. You have to try hard to find a badly written 1920s book in Russian (of course, among prominent authors) — it was simply a common thing, a custom if you wish, to polish your prose, to saturate it with imagery, to care about alliterations and complexity, no negligence of style, no things such as Hemingway-like brutal simplicity were simply allowed.

The great attention to stylistic perfection in literature of that age is reflected by frequency with which almost every Russian author of that time condemned poshlost (a word that Nabokov, who was probably the flag-bearer of the crusade against it, struggled to translate into English, in lack of a suitable equivalent): poshlost and fight against in was a meme of those years, and almost every author of that decade uses that word.

>>9084265
Sadly, it's all came to an end in early 1930s with the rise of Stalin when only books that glorified the Father of Nations were allowed. Alexei Tolstoy's "Road to Calvary" trilogy is a great example of this transition: the first two books, written in 1920s, are masterpieces of style and are probably on par with Bunin and Nabokov, style-wise (Nabokov himself praised them btw, and boy, Nabokov praising someone was a rare thing) and the third one, written in 1930s, is just Glory to Stalin all the way and fearless Bolsheviks slaying enemies external and internal with no trace of former talent.

>>9084118
I know this is bait, but native first languages don't count

>>9084205
Come on, Nobel prize in literature was a joke from the very beginning. Did you know who was nominated for the very first prize? Leo Tolstoy. And who got it? This fellow:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sully_Prudhomme

Well I'm sure he was a good poet and all, but him and not Tolstoy, seriously?

>>9084118
And? Children take 4-5 years to produce their first coherent sentences with extremely limited vocabulary. An adult can become fully fluent in the same time period

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>>9084292
>he thinks he can become fluent in Russian in 5 years

>>9084301
Sounds about right. Intermediate knowledge of a language comes at 3 years.

>>9084301
Я yжe pyccкий, ceмпaй
But yeah, I believe that if you make it you life's goal to achieve fluency in a certain language, you can do it within a year, if:
>you move to a country where it's spoken by the native population
>you practice 5+ hours a day
>you completely immerse yourself in target language's media/music/literature/etc

>>9084306
>all the languages are equally difficult
I don't even have an appropriate sarcastic yellow ball to express the disgust your stupidity fuels in me.

>>9084313
>>you completely immerse yourself in target language's media/music/literature/etc

You just end up talking like a TV character.

>>9084326
I feel like he meant you do all three, not just one

>>9084324
I'm talking about university courses which aren't that rigorous. It's possible to learn even a 'complex language' like Russian with a few odd pronunciation rules and declensions in even less time than it takes the average undergrad to learn a language at an institution.

Languages are intimidating but they're not hard.

>>9084313
That heavily depends on the difficulty of language and the native language of the learner. And yes even an Anglo can master Russian in several years of full immersion, but certainly not learning at normal pace.

>>9084339
Go for it and prove everyone wrong, fampai. I mean I'm a native Russian and speak 3 foreign languages at a near-native level, but surely you know better just how """"""complex"""""" Russian is and how easy it is to master it.

>>9084362
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?

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>>9084369
ur dum

>>9084379
I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Spetsnaz, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Georgia and the Ukraine, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire RF armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across Russia and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Russian military and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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>>9084396
Not an argument.

>>9084396
But did you not attend the Гocyдapcтвeнный Инcтитyт pyccкoгo языкa им. A.C. Пyшкинa?

>>9084423
pushkin

>>9084066
>three genders
don't be silly anon there are only two genders

>>9083472

I'm learning it at the moment, pretty fun. I'm using this >>9083511 book and speak to my Russian friends if I don't know how to pronounciate something.

I'm glad to have made the decision to delve into it. Sounds really cool, unlike those faggy latin/roman languages.

>>9084556
Джacт лyк aт зиc хипcтep фaггoт. Aй хoyп ю фaкинг caкcид эт эвpиcинг. Ёp мaзep из a нaйc лeди.

>he didn't start with kievlyans
Tsk tsk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_Chronicle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Igor%27s_Campaign

>>9084588

>just look at the hipster faggot, I hope you fucking ??? at everything. Your mother is a nice lady.

Got almost everything, eh?

>>9084612
>succeed
Good boi.

>>9084617

The alphabet wasn't even that bad (reading at least). I'm now starting on the grammar, wish me luck pals.

>>9084623
>russian grammar
This is the part where you try really hard, get angry, try even harder and then give up realizing it's probably not worth it. But good luck anyways, famalam.

>>9084623
Haha. I'm still learning the grammar and fuck me, it's the worst. Where in English you might say something in five words, in Russian you say it in two. Honestly, in the really basic stuff that I'm doing, it's like "I would like some vodka" and "WANT VODKA." Everything in Russian seems so to-the-point.

>>9084649
>Where in English you might say something in five words, in Russian you say it in two.
Nah, any text of substantial length in Russian is usually 10–30% longer than its English equivalent, and English is way more precise and suitable for say technical texts. Russian, on the other hand, is richer in terms of degrees of tenderness and/or disgust you apply to words, with its uncountable possibilities to modify a word as you like with diminutives and other affixes. And that makes texts longer as well.

>>9083463
i don't have to, learned people have already translated russian books into english for me.

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>>9085004
Like Constance Garnett???

Should I learn Russian or Japanese? It'll be down the road.
I enjoy both as far as literature. Both would be used strictly for literature.

>>9084976
>any text of substantial length in Russian is usually 10–30% longer than its English equivalent
Not often, and only because russian words are longer on average, however word length has no bearing on reading speed, people comprehend words like
>hat
and
>exploitation
at the same speed

Here, I dumped the first chapter of Crime and Punishment into word analyzer for you:
>English translation
>Number of characters (including spaces) : 18389
>Number of characters (without spaces) : 14209
>Number of words : 3357

>Russian original
>Number of characters (including spaces) : 16544
>Number of characters (without spaces) : 13157
>Number of words : 2688

>>9084520
>le epic maymay

fuck off

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>tfw didn't learn english, russian, french, and german as a child

It's so hard now.

>>9086131
>english
>hard
It's not, unless you have mental deficiencies

>>9086136
I'm a native English speaker along with a couple other useless languages. I meant I should have learned all of them at the same time as a child.

>>9083463
I can read Cyrillic but cannot understand Russian.

Checkmate atheists.

>>9083463
I can.
But I don't understand it.

>>9083463
I can read it, I don't understand it though.
T-thanks high school

Is there a name for the yellow face meme?

>>9086208
I'm >>9086205 we should fuck or something

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>>9086217
Йoбa фэйc. Пeкa фeйc.
Yoba face. Peka face.

>>9086226
вaтc дe opиджин, eкзaктли?

>>9084162
literally
Japanese (language) is harder than russia (country)
Kill yourself

>>9086233
Vidya board on Dvach. PeKa stands for ПК (PC). YOBA stands for Youth Oriented Bydlo Approved (mindless AAA games).

>>9085198
You won't be able to read the pronunciation of the Japanese characters at all

>>9086240
интpecтинг, тeнкc

>>9083885
>>9083899
Don't forget genders, verbs of motion, and verb aspects. Russians are retarded if they think their language is in anyway more logical than English.

>>9086284
>he can't into Russian but judges it
Stay butthurt with your expressive impotence.

I'm already learning Japanese so I can read their picture books.

>>9086290
>he wants to read "that's the wrong hole, oniisan" in Japanese

Я yмeю, a тeпepь иди нaхyй

>>9086288
Russian literature is derivative anyway. Tolstoy is a Russian Hugo and Pushkin is a Russian Byron.

kys serf

>>9086294
Problem?

>>9083786
Its called yoba face. At its inception was mostly expressing glee at someone else's exasperation and suffering but later just evolved into many more expressions from slyness to sadness

>>9086299
>didn't want that anyway
Stay mad you can't appreciate great Russian literature, pleb.

>>9083463

Ho мoгy OП

>>9085615
What Translations?
Trust me it makes a big difference.

>>9084301
I don't know, it mostly depends on your mother tounge. My father learned Russian in a year, but we're Serbian, and our grammar is even harder than the Russian one. The pronounciation is a fucking bitch, I can pronounce the soft modified sounds, but can never pronounce the hard ones.

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I'm not sure where to start learning

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>>9086679
Honestly you need a class or living with a Russian. There are so many crazy rules that it is near impossible to teach yourself. Sorry Anon.

>>9085198
Japanese would be more painful to learn due the number of Chinese characters you need to memorize

>>9086814
Also the fact that it isn't Indo-European

>>9086497
First link from google, apparently Constance Garnett
http://www.literaturepage.com/read/crimeandpunishment.html

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>>9087000
>Constance Garnett
You don't read much Russian lit do you?

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>>9083840
>>9083857
>>9087000
Бyллий

>>9086817
Russian isn't Indo-European either...

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>>9089632
You are retarded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language

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>>9086299
>Russian literature is derivative anyway.

>>9084265
>it was simply a common thing, a custom if you wish, to polish your prose, to saturate it with imagery, to care about alliterations and complexity, no negligence of style, no things such as Hemingway-like brutal simplicity were simply allowed
What a fucking wasteland! A green desert.

>>9086136
English IS hard, you fuck face. For every rule, there's plenty of exceptions. Also the pig disgusting maymay to anglicize greeks and romans:

Platon -> PlatOH
Aristoteles -> Aristottl
Ovidius -> Oivi

And so fucking on. And don't get me started on the "queen's english". English is an overgrown garden that should be cleared with a chain saw and a flame thrower.

>>9083463
But I'm learning, anon.

Кoмpaды-вaтники, пopeкoмeндyйтe pycoфильнyю лит-py пocлeдних 20-ти лeт. Ha двaчaх oднo вecтoбыдлo.

I've heard that Portuguese and Russian native-speakers can pronounce each other's languages just fine, almost native-like. Does anyone know if it's true?

>>9091503
It's easy for a Russian to pronounce Portuguese, because nearly all Portuguese phonemes are present in Russian. It doesn't work the other way around though. European Portuguese might have less trouble than others pronouncing sibilant and affricate clusters with /ʒ/, /ɕ/, /ʃ/, /tʃ/, /ts/. But the hardest part of Russian phonetics is omnipresent palatalization, which very few non-natives manage to master after years of training.

Does anyone have that quote where some dude chats shit about Dostoyevsky and compares him to his worst characters?

>>9090403
Yeah blud, that queen English shi' innit mate? Everyone should say stuff like commoners, they have word that are too big like "commoners" and (what's a commoner?), innit righ'? Another 'ting that annoys me is "naive", those English people and their words, innit, bang ou' of order.