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A question for writers familiar with Jungian typology/MBTI:

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A question for writers familiar with Jungian typology/MBTI:

Do you ever use certain Jungian/MBTI types to help develop your protagonist and other characters? I'v had a creative essay to do for college and I'v been basing my character around the "ENTJ" personality type, I'v found it 10x easier for his character development and I also find him a lot more interesting because of it.
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>>9069787
>tfw rarest personality type at INFJ

Makes me think
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>>9069794
OP here: after doing some research into the cognitive functions, I found out that I'm apparently "INTJ". Apparently that's like the second rarest.
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Maybe an interesting experiment, definitely a bullshit metric though.
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>>9069801
>INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals. Artistic and creative, they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities.

In short, I'm an unbearable faggot. Thanks, lad.
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>>9069808
Na, INFJ's aren't that bad. I'm ENTP and I'd say INFJ's are easily the most interesting type. At least you're not INFP.
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>>9069848
INFP here. Can confirm that INFPs are the worst
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>>9069787
INTP here
i feel quite lonely in the 3rd world shithole i born
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>>9069787
INFP here. I want to die.
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ISTP here
I want everyone in this thread to be put to death
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>mfw
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im an entp according to this chart but an istp according to online tests

>not an F or J
thank god 2bh
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>>9071260
same desu
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>>9071192
>>9071260
I've gotten both infp and intp....
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>>9070997
>Can confirm that INFPs are the worst

what's so bad about them?
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>>9071424

I'm INFP. Pretty much everything.

But it isn't without its merits.

My life is hell but at least my brand of autism always keeps humanity and the world interesting to me. Even at my lowest and most depressed I'm always interested. The flame never dies.
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>>9069787
I'm a INTP and i'm a fucking autist, it sucks
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ENTP here. I got the same idea as you while time ago when i discovered MBTI. However, instead of basing my characters on the typology i tried to classify them in order to make a believable character. But at the end i think it restricts your creative drive more than what it impulses. Sure it's funny and interesting the usage of different personalities in fiction and it will help you, but i think it's more orientated to genre fiction. Experiment and decide for yourself.
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I know people shit on these but I reckon they're good at basic, surface level evaluations/characterisations - the personality functions are interesting to think of as a basic groundwork for building more nuanced personas upon.

People who give MBTI too much credence tend to turn identification with their "personality type" into a self-fulfilling prophecy, I think. At least, that's what I'm always wary of when I try to use some external system as a crutch for self-exploration. I sort of loathe the idea of becoming someone who pseudo-analyses everyone around me and fits them into categories. Like obviously all personality types are not objective ingrained labels, but they come from consciously sorting common distinctions in basic human behaviour into different groupings. I think it's limiting to take up someone else's made-up typology and use it as a philosophy to define yourself and other people by. But it's a very fun and satisfying exercise, it really appeals to our egos and desire to understand other people.
t. INFP
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>>9071624

>I sort of loathe the idea of becoming someone who pseudo-analyses everyone around me and fits them into categories.

I don't think anyone takes MBTI *that* seriously.

Well anyone who'd regularly lurk /lit/ at least.
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>>9071667
Don't visit MBTI forums
>each personality type has its own subreddit
>there are websites that write buzzfeed-tier journalism shit like "Ten Things You NEED To Know Before Dating an INTJ"
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>>9071518
this
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>>9071707
>>9071667
same

I can't connect well with my peers or get laid without being intoxicated in some fashion.
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>>9071424
We're emotionally intense utopians basically
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>>9071361
its the most "JUST" type
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>>9071747
At least you aren't enfj
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>>9071388
>Moody-know-it-all-emo-hippie

Accurate
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>>9071769
What's that one?
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>>9069787
Clearly based on this chart, INTJ and ENTP are the superior types. They both respectively retain the most harmonic sets of traits possible for introvert and extravert alike.
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GLORIOUS INTJ POSTING, FELLOW GODS OF THE SHADOWS CHECK IN

>image for inferior infj/infp to be autists about
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>>9071782
Imagine the average college girl who reads John Green and eats nigger cum like a nutritional supplement
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>>9071805
found him, bottom left, also she-ldo is on the bottom right.

i'd love to edit one of these and take him out entirely, causing someone like me to search eternally
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>>9071832
I vaguely remember my brother putting an odlaw sticker over waldo in our book when we were kids.

took me all day to realize
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What are the essentials of INTP literature?
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>>9071846
absolute mad man
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>>9071850
whatever i write, desu
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>>9071805
We are closet narcissists
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>>9069787
What's my personality type if my personality type changes every 3-4 months?

Is it, "CGHB"? i.e, Conscious, steadilyGrowing human being?

Drop the memes OP, take the antiautism potion (contains 4.5-70% ethanol), and write your fucking novel.
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>>9071971
now THIS is autism
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>>9069787
If you do so you're a complete brainlet. It's pseudoscience, doesn't even breech the surface of the minute intricacies of an individual. Though it would still be better than the bland characters every ""creates"" though, which are just one bland characteristic per character.
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>>9071459
>tfw infp and i like it
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>>9071730
ive literally never kissed a girl sober
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>>9072179
I've literally never kissed a girl
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infj masterrace reporting in
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why do i get infp every time i take the stupid test but i feel like an intp
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PewDiePee make a video about this the other day, he said it was just shit that people believe like in horoscopes :S
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Honestly why do people use MBTI? It is only very superficially true, and the Big Five personality model is way more accurate from a clinical viewpoint.
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>>9072373
it provides a supernatural comfort, like zodiac
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>>9072373
Shitposting

Who else ENTP here?
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>>9069787
No, that's stupid.
>>9069808
At least you're not INTJ, and therefore not terminally autistic.

I'm assuming you still have some degree of autism.
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>>9069848
ENTP here, can confirm INFP are the worst.
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>>9072270
Because you are INFP, duh!
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>>9070997
>>9071260
>>9071401
>>9071459
The ride never ends familia
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People after this test do bunch of fallacies. They try fit to their result but actually answers show only what they claim to be themselves. Is all about what Barnum effect doing.
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>>9072963
Just got INFP. Why do people keep saying they are the worst?
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>>9070997
INTP is the worst. It's like you're alone behind a glass pane in a zoo watching all of humanity, trying to make sense of it and being embarassed every time you try to join in. It's being disqualified as a human being (read No Longer Human, the main character Yozo is INTP as fuck).
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>>9071850
No Longer Human
The Great Gatsby
A Catcher in the Rye
Anything by Poe
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What's some INFP lit?
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This
>>9069802

MBTI types, the dimensions themselves are not stable. Personality is contextual and metrics are problematic in that they can't properly account for the lifespace of the individual.

But as a tool or source of inspiration, sure why not.
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>>9073807

Should have said "reliable" rather than stable. Stable is vague.

Personality type stuff is for those who like to read cosmopolitan. It's fun, but it was perhaps the most shameful product of Jung's work next to his nazi shit.
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I'd go with Jungian typology rather than MBTI. MBTI is basically horoscopes, the tests are useless and just confuse people on Jung's work. Jungian typology and the Cognitive functions is actually a pretty robust and reliable structure, and actually gives you reasons why you're those 4 letters and why you can't change them. Plus, it's hella interesting, all the stuff about Ni, Ti, Fe and all the other functions is so fascinating.
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What's some INFJ lit?
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>>9073991
Infinite Jest
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>>9073086
Check out >>>/r9k/
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>>9069787
>tfw INTJ

Literally confirmed autist
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>>9069794
TFW INFJ did the holocaust, 911, and general edginess
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>>9073981
Can you not extract all that that from MBTI?
>Basically horoscopes
>Basically useless
Developing a test based on 4 dichotomies can give insight into this stuff MBTI's main weakness is the lack of attention to the interplay between the dichotomies.

Not everybody is out to be a nerd about this stuff or take it all that seriously.

>Can't change letters
Untermensch detected btw
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>>9069787
>starting this thread with this picture

I hope you didn't expect anything other than
>LMAO any INTPs here, kek INFJ is hitler, fuck Es amirite
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>>9073200

This is honestly the most accurate description I've seen. Especially with that "turbulent" variant
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>>9074655
Suicide seems likely
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>>9074894
Introverted feelers who outwardly intuit

No wonder no one can ever figure out what they're on about, and their "gee no one gets me" meter fills up until they die.
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If you use these you're a no talent autist who will never create anything worthwhile since you lack the ability to understand people intuitively

You might be able to make passable genre fiction at best but even that's a stretch
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>>9075002
Post ur high literature that u wrote urself
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>>9075018
I'm Thomas Pynchon, I don't need to prove shit
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>>9075002

t. young try hard
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+putin and varg
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>tfw infp and a tranny

worst type
at least im not some combative douche tho
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>>9069787
Borderline ENTP/ENFP reporting in.

MBTI is slightly bullshit but P people are definitely the master race.

Also not the common misconception: your p/J function is whichever you do EXTROVERTED, not which is your dominant. So INFJ people are dominant P, but judge externally.
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>>9074335
Kek
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>>9074752
>chiang kai shek is black
I'm officially /mad/
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>>9075179
>P people are definitely the master race.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>9071850
Ham on rye
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>>9075119
>Jay-Z
>an introverted thinker
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>>9075002
>Disregarding usable archetypes
fuck off
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>>9075702
ha-hah man don't you see that that's just your E type speaking
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>>9069848
ENTJ-A here. INFPs are basically cucks or females.
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>>9075002
I was longlisted for the Man Booker in 2013 and I love the Myers-Briggs. Sure, it ain't science, but it's nice.
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>>9075784
Hi Jim.
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>>9075800
Buy my book, please, I just want to see my family again
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>>9075372
is this doll coming back for the show's revival?
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>>9075837
nah google her, she beat
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>>9075864
;_;
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ENTP here, how do I stop sounding pretentious?
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>>9075959
Stop challenging people's beliefs. Even if they are very easily proven wrong.
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>>9074752
What's the INTP version of this?
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>>9075781
Famous ENTJS
>Napoleon Bonaparte
>Julius Caesar
>Bill Gates
>Jeb Bush
Yeah, real sex gods you are.
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>>9076156
Your examples make it hard to tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Napoleon and Caesar were indeed promiscuous men of virility with large harems.
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>>9076166
>Having a large harem compensates for being a cuck or a manlet with a micropenis.
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>>9076266
>conqueror
>Shakespeare character
>richest man in the world
>comes from a family of reptilians
yes Anonymous Fourchanner, I'm sure you would steal every chick they attempt to score with
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>>9076266
That only makes Napoleon all the more impressive!
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>>9076106
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>>9071424
We're overly emotional, delusional, and live in our own fantasy worlds. Not to mention we're most likely out of all the types to kill ourselves.
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>>9076277
He's still a cuck, I wasn't knocking on Jeb Bush.
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>>9076106
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>>9076106
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>>9075959
As an ENTP, I've adopted what I refer to as post-pretentiousness. What I do is say very pretentious things such as "I'm very charming//I'm very wealthy" with a highly pronounced tone of irony. Now the ironic bit is: I am very charming, and I am very wealthy, but because people disregard the content of such statements due to tone, you can get away with them while being entirely honest about expressing self-image.

It works quite well for me, but you see, this might simply be because I'm very charming, and very intelligent. But since you're an ENTP, I'm sure you're very charming and intelligent too, anon. (Jk, this metric doesn't predict those types of qualities accurately at all.)
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>>9076289
>>9076311
>>9076329
feels good to be the objectively superior type
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>>9075997
Anon, how could you stand to let people continue to believe stupid things if you know you have the power to convince them? It's always worth a try to engage in a discussion regarding—anything.

e.g. this post
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>>9076345
this is why I fucking hate ENTPs
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>>9076353
As I sit here giggling, I can't help but wonder why you choose to deride an entire group of imaginary people.
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>>9076365
>deride an entire group of imaginary people.

Isn't all criticism essentailly this
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>>9069787
ENTP here. Once you learn the functions MBTI becomes redundant and dumb.
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>>9076348
Thanks anon
ill go jack off to my own superiority now :D
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>>9076370
No because not all groups of people are imaginary. There is a very specific group of people that consist of Swiss, scientologists, ethnomycologists, furries, and so on. Any group specified by something like the MBTI or astrology is quite literally imaginary because the validity of distinctions (and even the distinctions themselves, outside the given criteria) arose directly from people's imaginations.

For instance, now as I criticize you, very cordially I can assure you, I'm not criticizing an imaginary people (assuming solipsism isn't true), but a very specific person.
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>>9076419
>Switzerland isn't an imaginary distinction
good one anon
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Whenever I take this test, the only part that stays the same is "intuitive" rather than "observant." Only 51% introverted, 52% feeling and 66% judging. I'm actually surprised I scored 66% judging because usually it's around 50%. My 84% intuitive side believes this test is bullshit.
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>>9076419
>implying there is anything specific about me

pffffftttttt what a joke
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>>9076480
well, it is.
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>>9070997
I'm an INFP, supposedly, and I don't really see why I should hate it. I do perfectly well for myself. I have friends, girlfriends, I'm doing pretty well on my degree course and I can stand up for myself all the while enjoying a rich and emotionally complex inner world.

Don't let these people cuck you from your own lives. Just try to control your delusions or at the very least don't communicate them.
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>>9076461
It is in the sense that people gathered and defined its boundaries using, I suppose you could say, their imaginations. But you see, Switzerland is over 700 years old, it has a culture, a language, an globally recognized certificate for its citizens called a passport. Having a Swiss passport means something practically speaking. Saying you're an Aquarius or even an ENTP has very little, if any, practical meaning other than meaning people arbitrarily ascribe to it using, you know, their imaginations.
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Am I the only ISTP here?
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>>9076882
No, my man.
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INTJ here
I'm scum
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>tfw you're an INTP living in a 3rd world country and can't buy books because they're too expensive
Just end my existence now desu
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7 get
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>>9077777
How tf do people pull this off flawlessly
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>>9077777
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>>9071850
My Diary, Desu
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>>9074752
>Trotsky is black

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEvisionists
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>>9073981

Sounds nice until you do some digging and realize that the Jungian functions are a hotly debated topic within the community on top of them having zero scientific basis. Between Jung, the creators of MBTI, and other researches involved there is almost no agreement as to what the functions precisely entail or how the functions stack for specific types. When some scholars agree with the Introverted-Extroverted-Introverted-Extroverted pattern and some do not (the original stackings has no such rule Introverted-Extroverted-Extroverted-Introverted) the metric loses credibility quickly.

So yes, MBTI is nothing more than a cool archetypal tool in every form.
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>>9078079
wat
trotskyism is the definition of revisionism
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>>9077812
the people that do this usually try many times, so that helps

also luck

also scripts

also precognition


(in order from most to least likely)

also, flawlessly is a useless modifier here, people either pull it off or dont
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