/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

I've found what I think is the complete anthology of all Conan stories in a local bookstore. I've always been curious about Howard's work. Any of you fellas here have any opinions on the stuff and how it stands up nowadays?

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Give me ONE good reason why I shouldn't put lightsabers in my fantasy novel...

That's what I thought.

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Just finished this. The prose was a bit amateurish but it was a fun read, so I intend to continue the series. I like the idea of the protagonist not being the "destined hero" but instead just some kid that put the work in. What I don't like is that the actual hero of prophecy feels like he gets all these powers handed to him without having to work for it, so I hope the story is building up to doing something different with that. He feels like an oblivious idiot trying to be some sort of fairytale hero while the protagonist is quickly developing into a sharp-minded badass.

Anyone else familiar with it? I picked it up at the recommendation of someone in this thread so I presume there's at least one of you.

>>9069682
Because they're obviously sci-fi.

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>>9069688
...It's a Lazer sword.

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What are some fantasy or SF novels with a shemale or futanari protagonist?

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>Castalia House is looking for excellent writers who reject the modern and postmodern dogmas so prevalent in science fiction and fantasy today. We are looking for writers who believe there is a fundamental distinction between good and evil. We are interested in writers who harken back to the Golden Age of SF and the Inklings. We are seeking writers who respect the past as much as they anticipate the future. We want to publish writers with souls, writers with chests, writers who possess a sense of the numinous and the ineffable. We hope to hear from authors who are just as interested in telling a fascinating story and entertaining the reader as they are in demonstrating literary pyrotechnics.

>>9069813

>We are looking for writers who believe there is a fundamental distinction between good and evil

Dropped before i even picked it up

>>9069682
nobody cares faggot

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I wish Shaeönanra was my dad.

>>9069687
I was the one shilling it. It's the bet example of anime in prose. Sanderson comes no where close to Wight when in comes to western anime.

What's wrong with "destined hero"?

In my story, the protagonist is quite clearly the one destined for greatness. What's wrong with that? Why do people dislike this 'trope' or whatever you call it?

>>9069682
>Recognizable element from one of the most famous stories on Earth.
>Used for cool factor more than usefulness.

>>9069955
Overdone. No one wants to read the exact same story 100 times.

>>9069847
same

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>>9069674
What does /sffg/ think of Stephen Lawhead?
His standalone books (Dream Thief, Patrick: Son of Ireland) look promising.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/405589.Byzantium

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>>9069810
I always post this one, but someone else needs to come up with better ones.

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Write a short but compelling synopsis of your /sff/ novel

>>9070041
A NEET shitposts on the wrong forum and gets thrust into a thrilling cyber warfare and sex filled adventure

recommend me a book with a flashy galactic empire/ reich

>>9070041
An ancient scientist who lives on a flat world with hokey cosmology (stars are actually just lights hanging from the ceiling of the heavens, etc.) goes on a journey east to find the source of the rising sun and settle the dispute of whether there is only one sun circling the planet or if a new sun is created each day. Discovers that the sun is a series of chariot riders that pass on a fiery mantle to the next rider each morning before burning up, so that each day requires a fresh rider, but the same fiery mantle is passed on between them, ever-burning. Returns home, reports that the sun is neither one nor many.

A friend of mine wants me to read The Dispossessed because it's his favorite book. Is it good? I don't read a whole lot of scifi

>>9069847
Thirded

Black and white morality isn't just unrealistic. It's also fucking boring.

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>>9069680

Anyone?

>>9070085
This is actually quite interesting. I like the "is not one nor many" phrase.

>>9069680
it's basically trash.
Not in a bad way, mind you, but a good way.
There's little to no overarching plot
and little to no chronological integrity to be detected.

Conan is essentially a faceless wandering barbarian with a soft spot for cute women. He goes around and smashes things, sometimes he sneaks.

That's as far as it goes; there's never any intricate plot, there's never any big bad evil genius being propped up for some chapters, little exploration of culture or somesuch.

Most all the stories follow this trope:
> Conan comes somewhere
> he either wants to steal something
> or there's some asshole who wronged him
> Conan smashes stuff
> Conan proceeds to be on his way SOMEWHERE

that being said, I really do enjoy it:
I always have it handy on my phone when going for a long shit. It's mindless, reasonably well written and enjoyable in what little context it provides for worldbuilding and mythos, passes the time - and then you can easily move on and forget it after having read a short story.

I say:
Buy it.
Give it to your Kids when they get to 2nd grade or so, they'll love it!

>>9070041
Man can grow hundreds of years old,
the Galaxy is being slowly conquered with almost-Lightspeed Sleeperships, but instantenous communication via quantumpairs is possible. The Human Metacivilization keeps on changing and fracturing through wars both internal and external, but eventually a large and almost Utopian state is forged in opposition to Aliens and Humans alike, a Sphere of the Free ,where Philosophy, Arts and Technology prosper. Yet, it is neither unchallenged, nor is it the largest political entity in the Spiralspur.

An old man and his Band of Religious Fanatics implement a Plan to allow for perpetual growth and prosperity - for most - while the Utopian State fights for survival.

>>9070276
elaborating:
The story will follow first two Women ( because why the fuck not? The way I wrote the story originally, in a kind of play by mail with a longtime friend, though we both went off to write our own take on that shared original universe - the women just turned out to be the most sensible points of view ) ,
> Erika Martinez is third Watchcaptain aboard a Battleship ( PHOBOS ) in the Navy of previously sketched Utopia. When an Incident forces her taskforce to leave on a twenty year deployment and is subsequently engaged in a firefight, eventually she ends up as the last ranking officer standing. She's keeping the ship and crew ( of originally a couple thousand, in the end only barely of company strength ) together in a time of need via her understanding and good nature.
>> She never actually really needs to assume command and is conflicted through most of the story but catches glimpses of some stealth ship or another operating in the same area, in the end she defers to the commander of another vessel and brings home victory for her team just by soldiering on and being a decent person. She's by no means exceptionally, as far as Starshipcaptains go.

> Karin Reiter is an augmented woman enlisted as a volunteer with the Marineinfantry, stationed aboard Erika Martinez Ship the PHOBOS. She's slutty, though not while on duty, and dispatched to hijack a derelict experimental vessel which was cause for hostilities to originally break out. While there she encounters a group of stealth fighters and warriors aboard said same ship - who are not hostile at all. She's equipped with a deathwish which never comes to fruition, instead she hijacks said derelict and brings it home to PHOBOS and onwards to victory. She goes on to join a rather elite group of Blockade Breakers for the next installment of the story.

The overall conflict is fought out between the following relevant factions, though in the course of the story ( being seperated by relativistic distances ), we rarely ( but do ) encounter them;
> The European Union ( named after a Planet, which was named after the Moon - but thematically related to the best Ideal the IRL EU should strive for ) is an Utopia, mostly NON-Human and of many mixed races and cultures ( think maybe: Star Treks Federation, but not as Utopist, as there is Politicking and Strive ) and held back from intervention by a kind of Prime Directive
> The Souvereignty, which is predominantly HUMAN and also predominantly of one other Alien Species which Humans simply called "Dragons" or "Drakhs" upon first contact. These are the Bad guys. However, they have a much larger hearth and supply fringe worlds and younge species etc more freely with Technology, being open and inclusive - albeit Religiously Fanatic in a weird way ( which invariably pits them against the Europeans ),

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>>9069680

Tower of the Elephant is as good as anything else out there

Several other stories are very good, like Beyond the Black River, Red Nails, and Queen of the Black Coast.

>>9069759

No it doesn't, you're just a pleb.

>>9069971

Except fantasy fans.

>>9070041
Space combat is performed by uploaded humans. One of the best crew members, has over 6,000,000 confirmed kills or whatever, is some guy who doesn't really believe it's him out there, that his ghost is really conscious, he just lets them copy his brain now and then and enjoy the sweet dosh, then gets his memories from space combat back, thinks, "huh, my ghost got converted to the idea it was conscious that time too," and goes back to his life.

Then his ship comes back impounded, his ghost helped in some kind of atrocity, and he's called in as an expert witness and possibly a defendant.

>>9069971
There's lots of variation possible with the Chosen One plot element; if he runs from the call, how long he does, how he tries to settle his destiny against his will, whether or not he lets other moral rules slide in the face of his destiny, and so on.

>>9070385
All of those have been done.

>>9070342
> the European Electronics Company, which is basically THE Megacorp of the Setting, equaling or dwarfing most stellar empires with its tradingfleets and outpacing most (and maybe even the europeans) in Technology. They have their fingers in every pie and are beloved by many - as they provide much of the wealth the entire Metacivilization thrives off. Politically they appease and de-escalate regularly in most conflicts, but in the course of the first story installment it becomes clear that their agendas are not as bright as some would believe.

There's also some smaller political players,
> Sirians, who are Humans of some (peaceful) former Warriorculture
> Canie, who are not!Italien Citystate
> The White Zone, or the DMZ ( De-Militarized-Zone ) on the borders between the two large powerhouses of the European Union and the Souvereignty, actually housing the lions share of disorganized Human and Nonhuman Population, eternally fractured, regularly battleground to larger and smaller stellar empires.

While we initially follow our Heroes on a Path to rescue the Utopia, hand in hand with the company, they soon find out about the shadier sides of the company and political backroom dealing which puts the Utopian Europe on the fringe of destruction ( for some unknown reason ),

In their defense of said Utopia, said Utopia disintegrates along its political faultlines and disintegrates into civil war,
soon after the Souvereignty also collapses
but not before both have done their very best to Eradicate the Company.

Why did this happen?
Ideological Radicals on part of the Company;
there is a large fraction within its controlling body disgusted with the state of the world;
> Two Powerblocks divide all the wealth between each other
> People suffer, are deprived of ressources and sometimes entire populations enslaved by some upstart stellar empire

There are competing schools of thought within these Company Radicals
> One Branch believes that Eternal Warfare and a fracturing of large states in favor of more social and economical mobility for the large number of smaller states is favourable, increasing overall goodness in the world
>> these fight continuously to uplift smaller nations and destroy larger nations
> Another Branch believes that Factionality ala Holy Roman Empire with smaller states being at peace with one another is preferreable, creating an equilibrium ( call them: Bismarcks )
> a third Branch is opposed to all others: They believe the Creation of a Superstate in the Spiral Spur (first) and the Galaxy as a whole (eventually) will bring peace and unity.
> a secretive small faction realizes that most paradigms are imperfect; no superstate can prevail forever, no HRE Balance of Powers can last eternal, and fractured warring factions in eternal turmoil are prone to develop into a downwards spiral of eternal suffering and regression.
>> This secretive Faction has infiltrated most of the other Factions.

>>9070388
> the fifth and largest faction of company radicals are ideological radicals worshipping warfare itself, trying to end the world in order to end all suffering.

The "Heroes" participate in the struggles and fights for the future of the spur and eventually reveal the different warring factions from within the company, destroying them.

Eventually the Utopian State is reborn, albeit much smaller. The different Company Factions continue to be pitted agains each other eternally, carrying their poisonous Ideology to the stars at lightspeed, uplifting civilizations they find along the way and doing their best to perpetuate their Paradigms.

>> Technology
it is assumed that Ships are able to accelerate to almost lightspeed within a matter of months, Technology as a whole has essentially plateaud many millenia ago and progress is only made incrementally in small branches.

>> Communiaction
is assumed to be instantly via paired quantumbits, thus making stellar empire building possible, but warfare still subject to relativistic necessities (see above).

>>9070041
Bildungsroman featuring a cat-taur adept and her exploits with shoulder mounted ballista.

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>>9070387
>all of those have been done
>implying anything hasn't been done
>implying we shouldn't go back to things we liked and do them again

>>9070276
>>9070342
>>9070388
>>9070413
>"""short"""

>>9070432
Who are you quoting?

>>9070041
Motorcycle loli chainsaw knights.

>>9070445
Right now you. Did you mean to say "who WERE you quoting?"

Recommend me a Sci-Fi book set in Northern England. Ill accept a wide interpretation of 'Northern' im just wondering if anyone ahs been inspired to write about this shithole. All i know of is maybe a Shadowrun book set in Manchester

>>9070494
Buried Dragon had a segment in Scotland.

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>>9070525

Scotland isnt northern England REEEEE

But thanks it looks good

>>9070525
What is Buried Dragon?

>>9070438
sorry man,
I just got into the flow of it,
also please excuse imperfect english, as its not my mothers tongue :)

>>9070556
It was this SF book - Hamilton I think? - where space colonization was only profitable because founding corps hired mercenaries to plunder their planets every few decades. There was a subplot where the main guy has a Scottish girlfriend who feeds him real steak and he flips out because all decent food comes from factories in the future.

It was one of those "huh, that happened" books for me, but maybe you'll enjoy it.

>>9070548
That's awfully specific, maybe writers from that area or something. I'd suggest Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell but you asked for SF and that's required reading for you folk anyway probably.

Jeeze, you guys weren't kidding about the Dark Materials sequels sucking. I'm 17% of the way through the amber spyglass and I can't give two shits about any of the new characters. Between the gay angels who are just inhumane enough that I can't sympathize with them and the elephants that turn into motorcycles I think I might drop this

>>9070041
It was supposed to be a short story but it's going to be at least a novella.

>When great man needs guidance and uncertainty reigns the oracle plays her part, but when prophecy fails and the great man falls the oracle falls apart.
>Eveline Bevitore had grown up never knowing the fear of uncertainty, but when a failed prediction results in the death of her parents and the destruction of her home, she finds herself for the first time asking what comes next
>Eve finds herself whisked away to a world of narcissistic magicians, world-eating dragonflies, sororicidal sphynxes and one incredibly disenthused showgirl

>>9070577

>That's awfully specific, maybe writers from that area or something. I'd suggest Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell but you asked for SF and that's required reading for you folk anyway probably.

Yeah it is a bit specific. I managed to find an Author called Jeff Noon who sets all his books in Future manchester though Vurt seems alright

This seems like a rad /general/ community, you guys actually like reading. I will sit at this table

>>9070586
https://web.archive.org/web/20141226224409/http://www.scifiwright.com/2007/11/phillip-pullman-on-the-other-hand-is-no-hero-of-mine/
JCW's finest work.

>>9070601
Wait until anti-Stevian-anon comes sucking the fun from the thread.

>>9070601
welcome, friend! Enjoy your stay
check out the charts in the OP for some recommendations, but beware: There is shit mixed in with good recommendations sometimes.
( Especially beware and use caution with Women Authors! )

>>9070601

Only read Novels if you KNOW they are GRI approved

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>>9070601
Don't forget your complimentary spacecat recommendation!

>>9070619
GRI?

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>>9070712
>>9070601
A standardized way our General uses to measure the quality of a work.

Pic related. If it's good it gets the seal of approval.

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>>9069768
>>9069682
Here faggot. I'll help you out with 2 hints.


1. Have the sword be made of some exotic material that doesn't break / withstands high temp w/e.
Make some mechanic that allow you to bind the material of your sword to a flame w/e, maybe the ever_burning pits in the Lord's castle?
Now make a sheath for the sword out of the same material, but don't bind it.

When you go into a fight you pull out your flaming sword that is x℃ hot, and use it shear through your enemies.

2. Have some sword made with some exotic material, have it so the sword can withstand high amounts vibrations. Also make sure the vibrations aren't passed to the pummel.
Make it so the material is thin but also strong, bind it to the soul of some demon, angel, priest, rabbi, w/e.
The sword is vibrating because the soul is trying to escape. A soul which has the mass of an adult human being contained in a vessel as small as a sword is going to cause some crazy vibrations.
It is vibrating so fast the sword has heated up and gives off a bright blue sheen.
Because the blade is so thin, and vibrating at such a high frequency, the edge is able to cut through the molecules of air themself, this frequency is what gives it that high whiny/humming sound.

You are supposed to be a writer, I'm sure you will be able to adapt those pieces to match your story.

>>9069813
Castalia's cover art is getting technically better but the subject there is still atrocious.

>>9070089
It's pretty good but your friend is a pleb.

>>9070988
That's stupid.

>>9070379
That's actually pretty good, hope you're up to the execution.

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>>9069813
>We want to publish writers with chests

>>9071139
The chick on Daughter of Danger's cover has a better chest desu.

>>9071135
I'm absolutely not. I've been keeping up with my New Year's resolution to write every day, though, and my short stories are getting marginally better. Some day.

>>9070127
>Black and white morality
>fundamental distinction between good and evil
>Thinking theses are even remotely the same thing
Jesus new-/sffg/ is becoming this unread.

any fantasy out there that has a protagonist that just gets caught up in all the conflict by accident? like, he doesnt play an integral part or is even the hero of the story, but he just happens to witness it all.

>>9071155
So much for the tolerant Left.

>>9071172
There's a Baen book that's narrated by a tribe of historian mites that live on the main character. Can't remember what it was called.

Also FFXII.

>>9070548
>>9070494
>>9070593z
Try Market forces by that guy who wrote altered carbon. Morgan something?

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>tfw little severian

>>9071112
That's the sad part, they're finally looking like they weren't slammed together in five minutes except it's jailbait titties.

>>9071200
that was a little... shocking, I have to admit

>>9070988
is there a picrelated for gri approved books?

I just got into Science Fiction (right now I am reading novellas by minor authors). Which books should I go to to make the transition from sub-par novellas to serious sci-fi?

>>9069680

Howard's prose certainly compares favorably to quite a bit of modern fantasy. It's well worth a read.

>>9071285
Dune
I, Robot
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch

>>9071285
Philip K. Dick

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omg, /lit/, i accidentally mixed up these two quotes from Patrick Rothfuss and Gene Wolfe! which one is which?!

>It is easier to understand if you think of it in terms of music. Sometimes a man enjoys a symphony. Elsetimes he finds a jig more suited to his taste.
>The same holds true for lovemaking. One type is suited to the deep cushions of a twilight forest glade. Another comes quite naturally tangled in the sheets of narrow beds upstairs in inns. Each woman is like an instrument, waiting to be learned, loved, and finely played, to have at last her own true music made.
>Some might take offense at this way of seeing things, not understanding how a trouper views his music. They might think I degrade women. They might consider me callous, or boorish, or crude.
>But those people do not understand love, or music, or me.”

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

>Let me say this. Once when I was swimming underwater in imitation of her, I saw her swimming toward me, and she was swift and graceful beyond all telling. There are no words for that, as there are none for her beauty. She caught my hand, and we broke the surface, up from the divine radiance of the sea into the blinding glare of the Sun, and the droplets on her eyelashes were diamonds. You that read of all this in a year that I will never see will think me wretched, perhaps-certainly I was wretched enough fighting the inhumi and their slaves on Green, fighting the settlers, and before the end even fighting my own son. Or possibly you may envy me this big white house that we in Gaon are pleased to call a palace, my gems and gold and racks of arms, and my dozen-odd wives.
>But know this: The best and happiest of my hours you know nothing about. I have seen days like gold.

>>9071470
Top is Rothfuss bottom is Wolfe. Not even hard to tell man.

>>9071511
Agreed, because the bottom has more purple prose. Dead give away.

>>9071470

I never even read Rothfuss, but it's easy to spot Gene Wolfe and he sure as hell never wrote anything as cringeworthy as the above quote.

>>9071206
Too soon.

What's a novel with a little girl protag and a lot of drama?

>>9071470
Sick troll, bro. For a minute I almost didn't realize that the top passage was unbearable hot garbage reminescent of some guy poking you in the chest and shrieking "Neon Genesis: Evangelion has layers! Like an onion!" while he scrapes his fedora on the chalkboard forever and ever for eternity.

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Has anyone read this?
Haven't seen many people talking about it.

quick question /sffg/

Is writing an epic scene that climaxes in the main character jumping out a window like an action hero and landing in a dumpster too far into the ream of self-parody

>>9071833
edgy

it wasn't bad but it left me with no motivation to read the sequel(s)

>>9071799
I dont know.

>>9071849
So basically you're posting these questions to troll people at this point right?

>>9071799
Black Jewels Trilogy. Now read it and fuck off.

>>9071139
China is fuckin THICC

>>9072061
tell me about it.

>>9071521
epic XD

>>9071470

Only a fucking retard sucj as yourself would ever mix the two. Like I said before, you'd better stick with Rothfuss.

>>9071849
the best thing to do is to try this out yourself.

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>>9070445
>>9070452

Are there any good novels that combine fantasy and sci-fi? Other than Dune.

Magic in space and shieet.

>>9072376

Metabarons.

>>9072208
touched a nerve eh

>>9071470
This gotta be bait, the character in top one would be easy identified as Kvothe (muh music, muh trouper, muh me) even if it was written by a 5 year old and the bottom one is straight from the last thread.

If I enjoyed New Sun should I read Long Sun and Short Sun?

>>9071470
Some advice, friend. Next time you compose this kind if bait make sure to leave out proper nouns. In the Wolfe quote, Green and Gaon are dead giveaways

But you probably didn't know that because you haven't read him.

>>9072424
Yes

>>9072440
"Let me say this."
"You that read"
"But know this"

Honestly who fucking else writes like this? It just screams Wolfe.

>>9071470
>divine radiance of the sea
>droplets on her eyelashes were diamonds

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>9072452
Kvothe

>>9069674
>have a world built for a series of books I've been planning
>have characters
>have locations and history of them
>deeply understand how magic and other abilities work
>have an outline for two trilogies
>sit in front of my computer screen and my mind goes completely blank on what to write

How do I fix this? Why can't I start?

>>9072461
>he fell for the worldbuilding jew

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>>9072461
Well obviously you need to take one of those characters and one of those historical places and make a scene in them.
Simple as that.

>>9072464
also this

you should write it, then build it as you go.
Can't think of a easy answer sorry. But you got to make something happen anon.

dont let your dreams be memes on a cartoon mongolian cave painting market thimble weaving forum.

>>9072461
always always always start with characters. you should be putting most of your time developing and planning out characters.

>>9072461
If it's any consolation, even if you hadn't got this arse backwards, it's still likely you would have been a terrible writer.

>>9072490
>>9072493
Like I said, I have characters. I actually have a ton of them with fully developed personalities. I just feel like I never know the right place to start.

I'm trying to develop characters but I've come to a problem. Given the reaction people give to Felisin it seems like people don't like realistic female characters who act like real women.

As far as I see it there are three ways to write a female character.

A man's idealized version
>loyal, capable of love, not as smart as men on average but still bright, reliant somewhat on men
A woman's idealized version
>so stronk don't need no man, completely independent and self-capable, a man by any other name but with a pussy and tits
A real version
>emotionally schizophrenic person who bleeds once a month and thinks only about sex and how to fit in with society

WHICH ONE IS BEST TO USE

>>9072542
Write down traits you want, create motivations, and then make that character female.

If it's that difficult for you to detach the gender, develop a male character and then just make them female instead.

It's another
>audiobook is split completely randomly into parts
>One file per chapter?
nope
>Does the file begin WITH a chapter?
nope
>Does the file END in the middle of a sentence?
yes

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>>9072532
>with fully developed personalities


Not trying to burst your bubble but no you don't.

Do you have a single scene with them having an inner thought? or a single line of dialog by them?
Any of them ever interact with eachother during a chapter?

Then no you have a soul caliber backround story when you flip over a character.

Just take one of those historical places and two of the characters have write a short dialog session with them. Start in the middle, start in the end, no matter.

Have them discuss whether they like cats or dogs better. Just start anon, I believe in you!

>>9072542
if theres anything ive learned its that there's basically no good way to write a female character.

>>9072595
Erikson taught me the only way to make a likable female character is to give her basically no dialogue or internal thoughts and have her be stoic as fuck.

>Riyria
>Already talking about how slavery is bad and referring to immigrants from other continents as exotic and something to want

god fucking damn it go kill yourself Sullivan

>>9072557
>If it's that difficult for you to detach the gender, develop a male character and then just make them female instead.

Except women don't act, talk, or look like men, in any way.
They also don't have the same motivations or desires.
That's fucking stupid advice stop giving advice about things you know nothing about

>>9072634
Lol no wonder it's popular on Reddit.

>>9072634
>>9072648
>tfw you're trying to write a fantasy novel but know nobody will ever publish it because it criticizes multiculturalism, democracy, populism, usury, racemixing, "gender equality" and other issues
If only the industry wasn't owned by, you know.

jews

>>9072648

I JUST WANT TO READ COMFY ADVENTURES OF TWO BROS
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>9072642
>I can only write generic characters after my own predefined molds
Just because most women may not act, talk or look like men do doesn't mean that there can't be exceptions. I don't know if you've noticed, but everyone is not the same.

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>>9072659
At least we have Jim Baen.

>>9072704

Are you not like all the other girls?

>>9072704
>I don't know if you've noticed, but everyone is not the same.
This statement is right from a certain point of view, but it is inherently wrong.

While ideologies and values you are exposed to may change your beliefs and goals they are not causing this change it is simply that you are predisposed to believing certain things. Race, sex, and age are the main determinating factors of individuality, followed by genetics and environment (food, water, toxins/pollutants, vitamins and nutrients, which effect how the body develops during youth). Though most important in modern society for males may be circumcision. The trauma of circumcision greatly effects men, especially as they are circumcised directly after birth and seeing their mother. The pain and trauma inflicted there is associated with their mother, and with women in general. This causes them to draw away from women in fear of being hurt.

No people are not all the same, but basically they are.

>>9072744

>tfw draw away from women and men just because I love being alone and don't want to be around people

Not even circumcised and happy about it

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>>9072744
>Though most important in modern society for males may be circumcision

>>9072773

There's actual research done about how circumcision affects the brain, and the pain caused by it, how it affects it.
(Not that other poster maybe he can give citations)

>>9072773
You do realize the effect that inflicting a newborn with the most painful event of their life has right? The foreskin contains the most nerve endings in the entire body, inflicting a newborn infant with the highest possible pain that anyone can ever receive FUCKS THEM UP.

www.circumcision.org/brain.htm

>>9072775
>>9072783
Isn't circumcision done while you're put under sleep? I don't remember mine except lying on a table, being scared and my aunt holding me down. Don't remember any pain or anything afterwards so I always assumed I went to sleep.

>>9072791
>Isn't circumcision done while you're put under sleep?
Only if you're a jew. "Normal" Americans get snipped the moment they pop out of their mother's pussy and then the foreskin is sold to pharma companies.

>>9072783

Which kind of explains Americans.

>>9072794
So technically doing it when the kid is 5 or so is better, right? Because that's when it was done to me, I think. Also I'm turkish. I got to bury my foreskin in our garden.

Always makes me wonder how male circumcision is basic shit everyone does it it's not bad whta are you some kind of a freak if you don't do it, sentiment in the states.

And then they go and say female circumcision is a crime against humanity, barbaric, completely unethical and it should be banned.

>>9072817
I love learning about foreign cultures

>>9072098
Found this blog when I was googling him a while back. Enjoy.

https://couldtheybeatupchinamieville.wordpress.com/

>>9072834

The point is, that if you want to write a female character, then simply writing a male one and changing the pronouns won't fucking work, because women are not the same as men, they never have been and they never will

>>9072839
My point is, you may do exactly that. Of course it would be more likely and readers would probably react better to it if your character feature some thoughts, emotions or motivations generally associated to females (Brianne in ASOIAF is a prime example of this, even through she's a "freak" she still appear quite female in her chapters). But as long as you're not a shit writer, you can do whatever you want and make it work.

>>9072839
Exactly. Men are more objective. In general if a man is a fat piece of shit he knows he's a fat piece of shit. But as long as a woman is told by everyone she's beautiful she can be 800lbs and mortally disfigured but will still believe it. Women are social creatures, they have no objective reality.

>>9072856
There's men like that, and there's woman who aren't. So that point fails.

>>9072861

No fucking shit.
>There are women who are like x
Is a stupid point to make, when a VERY large portion of women are not like x

If you want to create different human-like creatures in fantasy go ahead, just don't call them humans, make a new race for them, where all your ideals can be fulfilled, because people just aren't like that.

>>9072871
And the women who are like that, are in fact, human. So that point also fails.

>>9072875

>A minute subsection of women are like x
>Let's make our entire female cast be like x

Do you not see a problem with that?

>>9072877
If it's fun book I don't see a problem, no. It's not like the men portrayed who would go out to risk their life and hunt dragons exist in real life either - most would piss their pants and run away.

>>9072885

That's idealism, the perfect person of the gender.
For men that is heroism
For women that's loyalty and servitude
So having idealism and also having women who are not being ideal women just doesn't make sense

>>9072891

>the perfect woman embodies servitude

Fuck off to your containment board.

>>9072898

Loyalty and servitude for her man.

The man that provides for her, keeps her safe.
Keeps her fed, etc.

>>9072898
>>9072902

Until death does us apart.

>>9072902
kys

>>9072906

That's all you can say?

>>9072902

Mutual loyalty is a given in any relationship. You can fuck right off with your one sided servitude though.

>>9072930
>Mutual loyalty is a given in any relationship. You can fuck right off with your one sided servitude though.

>one sided

Let me quote my post

>The man that provides for her, keeps her safe.
>Keeps her fed, etc.

>>9072891
Well that's just in your head. What those books usually go for isn't some ideal, rather that there is *everything*. And focusing on the stay at home dads & moms doesn't make for a good story.

>>9072937
>his wife isn't the breadwinner while he sits home all day shitposting on 4chan
lmao @ ur life

>>9072937
>>9072945
There are objectively only two types of relationship between men and women.

There is the mother, and the daughter. Any woman can only take one of these roles in relation to a man.

And only the mentally ill ones want to fuck their mothers.

>>9069932
Thanks for letting me know about it. As far as being anime goes, it does not disappoint.

Can I look forward to his other books being just as anime as the Traveler's Gate trilogy?

I have Snow Crash and Neuromancer on my kindle waiting for me to read them. Which one should I read first, and why?

>>9072991
Neither.

>>9072991
Read a good book instead.

>>9072993
>>9073016
What's with the hate for these books? If you have a problem, at least explain.

>>9072961
yeah but fucking your daughter is ok

>>9073044
Of course. Why wouldn't it be? Young girls are hot.

>>9073044
Hey man, you said it not me.

>>9073044
Hey man, Adam and Eve did it! It's obviously part of God's plan.

>>9073044

The blacks have had their president, now it's the daughterfuckers' turn.

>>9073083
Obama is jewish.

>>9072461
>every thread till you like it

>>9072744
>Though most important in modern society for males may be circumcision.
Modern Americlap society maybe, but luckily the world doesn't follow Klapistan blindly.

>>9073084
so is trump

>>9073044

>Being attracted to girls in their most fertile years is bad

Tell me more

>>9072826
Because of the following benefits of male circumcision:
>↓ in Urinary Tract Infections
>Prevention of reflux of urine up into the bladder in patients predisposed to it.
>↓ in certain types of cancer (does not include the HPV vaccine benefits)
>↓ in penile inflammation and retraction disorders
Some types of disorders such as paraphimosis is deadly - where the foreskin is so tight in an uncircumcised male that it cuts off the blood flow to the penis and in rare cases it can cause the penis to become gangrenous and autoamputate (where the penis spontaneously detaches by itself). This condition only affects uncircumcised males.
>↓ in HIV and other sexually transmitted infections (HIV, HSV-2, HPV)
Also prevents the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

Sauce: https://www.uptodate.com/contents/neonatal-circumcision-risks-and-benefits?source=search_result&search=circumcision&selectedTitle=2~86#H6

>>9073105
Americans believe that having sex with anyone under 20 is disgusting and morally reprehensible.

>>9073110
wtf i just converted to judaism, thank you americancer!

Yes I realize if you're a nigger in some third world shithole who can't wash himself and fucks men and animals it might be benificial to mutilate your penis. Obviously Americans are niggers.

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>>9072634
>>9072659
Slavery is good right?
An uneducated fuck should be able to get rich off the sweat, tears, and blood of others.
He should be able to rape, mutilate, and kill another human being at a whim because they are property.
Amirite guys?

And you ask why people hate you guys.

>>9073110
>Some types of disorders such as paraphimosis is deadly

What
I get paraphimosis when I fap sometimes since I have phimosis, I just pull the foreskin back over the head and it's fine.

>STDs
Stop having unprotected sex with whores

You also forgot to list all the benefits of having a foreskin

>>9072794
>then the foreskin is sold to pharma companies.
I don't believe you.

>>9073146

Dude, it's fucking obviously a "sorry niggers im so sorry please forgive me for what my ancestors did please im so sorry" shit
There's no fucking need to slam that into your book

Oh I forgot, fantasy books are "how to spread your political ideology 101 books"

>>9073129
Humans aren't designed to live long.

Telomeres wear off. Organs age, muscles and bones suffer wear and tear.

Your penis is arguably one of the riskiest parts of your body, your testis is literally ignored by your immune system (this is known as immune privilege) and the peripheral zone of the prostate has one of the highest rates of cancer in your body.

There is an interesting theory in the scientific community - the 'selfish gene' - that theorises that humankind is only a vehicle to create new copies of DNA - much like a virus your DNA is essentially 'hitching a ride' so to speak and when you outlive your usefulness and fertility evolution doesn't really care about you any more: you've already passed on your genes to your offspring and you are no longer required.

>>9073110
I always laugh at how Americans have to justify having their genitalia mutilated at birth. The shit they come up with.

Also not /lit/ >>>/b/cut or uncut

>>9073146
>Slavery is good right?
Did you mean to quote me? Because goyim are basically slaves. You people approve of slavery as long as it's happening to an outgroup you accuse of "evil". A nebulous an insubstantial hatred of those you cannot understand. You are everything you hate and more.

>>9073179
I guess you could live in a shithole if you don't want the benefits that modern society has to offer, or live life au naturel or live in a cave or in some weird religious group that whips themselves or something.

>>9072979
Don't know, haven't read them yet. Only the trilogy.

>>9073182
Slavery is 'good' for the people who own them. Unfortunately there is usually a higher ratio of slave to person and no fucker would want to end up as a slave so the best outcome for everyone is to abolish slavery unless you possess the power to take over the world and turn everyone else into your slave.

>>9073186
>in some weird religious group that whips themselves or something
But you're the one advocating mutilation according to the traditions of desert people who follow a racial cult.

>>9073124
That is why Americans are laughed at.
Their entire military might was/ is developed by immigrants, now they have the gaul to shit on them.
I bet Einstein, Tesla, etc were all Americans.
And I also guess that on the eve of a girl's 18th bday, she magically changes mentally at the stroke of midnight to take cock.

America is living in a fantasy land, England and Canada (?) both have the age of consent at 16.

>>9073202
and they change magically at 16 instead? having an age of consent is going to arbitrary whatever age you put it at

>>9073202
IIRC half of American states vary between 16 and 17 for AoC while the other half are 18, but even if it's legal in your state to fuck a 16 year old you will be socially castrated if you do so. 75% of Europe is 15 or younger for AoC.

>Riyria
>I'm only an emotional girl, nobody would listen to me, they'd just say I was distraught

FUCKING
STOP

>>9073209
>having an age of consent is going to arbitrary whatever age you put it at

Or you know... When a girl becomes fertile and is able to give birth?

this thread is getting very /pol/

>>9073242

You'd have a better case with plastics and the female hormones they emit, like in water bottles.

Always cracks me up how "safe alternative to BPA", BPS, is even more harmful than BPA

>>9073157
You didn't read out the books, it has nothing to do with that pol-kun. Stop taking your political "redpill" goggles with you everywhere you go.
Are you guilty by chance? Why does this trigger you.
Why don't you stay in your fucking containment board if stories contrary to your ideology make you angry?

Stay in pol and talk about all your beloved racist authors.

I'm over 200 pages into the The King's buccaneer. And boy is Nakor one annoying piece of shit
>muh there's no magic!!
>muh oranges
die already, faggot

>>9073256

I don't like authors just jamming their ideology down my throat in books that would otherwise be really amazing

>>9073258
he becomes a mainstay of the series lmao

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>>9073271

>>9073191
This. Jew and Muslims both practice circumcision. You've become your enemies and you don't even know it. I bet trump is circumcised, so is all the rednecks that support him.

I find it ironic desu. You fight tooth and nail to keep practices learnt from your Judaism and Islamic loving brethren.

>>9073279
Trump literally said "Uncircumcised Men are Un-American and Smell Bad".
>If you become your enemy, you win!

>>9073212
You can't believe the shit I have to read from female authors when underage sex comes about (urban fantasy). They know when they were 16 they were jonesing for that college freshman /senior cock, but they behaving otherwise now they older. Ridiculous.

>>9073262
Maybe they aren't jamming it down.
Maybe you just got so racist that the mere perception of anti-slavery, anti-woman-in-kitchen sentiments sends you off the deep in.

>>9073262
>>9073296
You're both triggered little cunts. /pol/ and /leftypol/ are equally disgusting in how you NEED a hugbox where everyone agrees with you or else you'll go into autistic fits of rage.

>>9073288
So America is actually a front for Islamic and Judaism ideologies?
You are fighting against yourselves?
That's deep... maybe I can make a book out of this.

>>9073293
Is this why the ones who call you "sick" and "pedophile" and "can't -get-it-up-for-a-real-woman" are usually over 36? Soccer moms are the ones that cry out the most.

>>9073157
>I don't read
t. /pol/ retard

>>9073307
>That's deep... maybe I can make a book out of this.
Call it "My Story" friend :^)

>>9073110
Nice made-up fantasy arguments you have there, fitting for a /sffg/ thread. That reduced HIV rate was from a study made in Africa, where circumcised men were muslim who didn't fuck that much out of wedlock for religious and social reasons, with adulterers stoned and shit. A piece of extra skin doesn't magically attract diseases. You might as well cut of your ears off, as you might be too inept to wash those too, lest they get infected.

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>>9073310
What are you afraid of a REAL WOMAN anon?

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Jesus fuckkkk since when did we have all these pollie sleeper agents? One fucking trigger phrase and they all going crazy. i.e "circumcision is anti slavery"

>>9073314
>My Story
Not Americlap, so it doesn't apply to me.

>>9073321
>this is considered a 8 in burgerland

>>9073334
She's British
>>9073328
>not getting the joke

>>9073325
Just report and ignore.

>>9073346
>report anyone who triggers you
You know Reddit works much better as a hugbox.

>>9073315
And where's the proof for your post?
Source: your ass
Leeches like you should be gassed so we don't waste resources on the wilfully ignorant.

>>9073358
Only a ledditor like you would consider 4chan your soapbox.

>>9073370
>#
The fuck is this cancer shit?

If you are mentally incapable of discussing books, consider suicide.

>>9073386
This entire reply chain was created by /leftyproles/ in an attempt to false flag.

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>Cancer: The Thread: The Novel: The Autobiography: The Experience
More proof that this cancer general should be erased from the face of the earth. /sffg/ - literary discussion? Don't make me laugh.

Not only are the posters in this thread ignorant of what constitutes a proper book but the idea that you have read anything at all is laughable.

Summoning mods.

>This shit cancer thread will finally be purged from /lit/
Feels good.