What is the most beautiful thing in the material universe?

Literature.

>>9066642
hot girls rimming each other

A pile of garbage.

>>9066642
a Sunday full english after a late night bender

my diary desu

>>9066642
the memory of DFW

Laying on a mattress with nothing to do and nowhere to go, desiring nothing and being self-sufficient in your own existence

A star

>>9066642
veins in my dick visibly contracting as I nut inside of my wife's 10/10 thicc ass, with her slightly twitching reaching orgasm simultaneously

a big bag of weed

>>9066670

This post is beautiful.

>>9066670

I want to hear more anon

>>9066684
firstly her ass is very clean, we have a bidet (its what got her interested in anal in the first place). sometimes she passes out then and there, right after I cum in her ass and she orgasms, she's laying on her belly, cum still in her ass, i cuddle her. we'll wake up from one of those really deep naps, where you sort of forget where you are after. we'll have another go, but i'll be fucking her pussy doggy style, my cum still in her ass, and i'll stick my finger in her cummy ass and make her taste my cum from the previous orgasm while i'm fucking her doggystyle in the pussy. sometimes she'll make me kiss her with a cummy mouth but i drink pineapple juice i dont care it tastes fine. she'll lay me down mid-fuck and reverse cowgirl in her pussy, cum from her asshole spilling onto my groin, rubbing it all over my abdomen with her ass cheeks, leaning back, i rub her clit, she kisses me with her slightly cummy mouth

>>9066642
My money is on DMT. That's assuming we're speaking strictly in terms of the material universe divorced from any sort of moral or ethical framework.

>>9066676
Very Walt Whitman of you ;)

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A reunited happy family.

cumming

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>>9066642
that infinitesimal flicker of realization as death approaches and consumes

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Devotion to God with a loving family

Human suffering.

calling a tripfag a loser

>>9066672
loser

The lack of constancy in the spatial dimension, and the illusion of it in the temporal one.

Also these
>>9066913
>>9066906
>>9066650
No irony

>>9066642
It definitely isn't white tigers. They're horrible inbred unnatural monsters with awful genetic problems.

my gf :3

is this the philosophy board

>>9066642
>What is the most beautiful thing in the material universe?
The fact that there are so many beautiful things in the material universe

Consciousness

>>9067118
super cute :3

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>>9066642
Flowers and books. Nothing can beat materialism.

Isolated, flat stretches of road. Especially at night, when the only sign of humanity is the glow of your own headlights and the voices on the radio.

>>9066642
True beauty lies in the spiritual universe, not the material. It's whatever instills in you a sense of the sublime, reminding you of God.

>>9067176
>Nothing can beat materialism.
Materialism is the consideration of the possibility of anything, and the potential of everything

>>9066642
A mother's embrace of her child.

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>>9066642
This

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>>9067239
>tfw dog spurns us :(

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The Eucharist, of course.

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>>9066642

Define "beauty"/aesthetics.

>>9066642
Innocence.

>>9067625
You're supposed to do that ITT, cunt

>>9066913
this desu tripfags really should just rot

but really its just subjective nonsense

>>9067838
actually i change my mind, the mod who decided to make "desu" change to "desu" experiencing either the brazen bull or scaphism would be the most beautiful thing in the universe

>>9067844
fuck he did it again

"t b h" change to "desu"***********

>>9066748
anal really is for degenerates

>>9067844

>to make "desu" change to "desu"

seriously?
leave

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>>9066748

>>9067195
>listening to radio
kys pleb

The sky.

I like classical music

I think it's purer and more close to the ideal then other thing

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simultaneously cumming, then drift off to sleep there and then

looking into your newborn's eyes for the first time

see the person you love hold the baby you made together

that feeling of fleeting insignificance you get when you look at something gigantic like the stars, mountains or the sea

taking a bath in the dark, submerging completely as long as possible

check off everything on your to-do list and feel like you got your shit together. atleast for that moment.

watching the love of your life do something mundane and suddenly get a rush of love and/or hornyness for them

long trips on empty roads at night

crisp clean bed sheets

the excitement when you get to know someone and piece by piece find out how far you can go. like, the first time your bodys touch, the first time you kiss, the first time your hands wander to more taboo areas, the first time you undress them, and ofc, the first time you have sex with them. and all the other firsts you can experience with them. like the first time you say "i love you" to each other. the first time you talk about your future. the first time you know they completely let down their guard. the first time you have sex with no birthcontrole...

when your hair feels like silk after you pampered it and you can't keep your hands from them

lazy sunday mornings with warm croissants and fresh orange juice

spring cleaning your whole apartment and then sit down and be content with your work

finding a new piece of music that perfectly resonates with your mood in every way and you can't stop listening to it

standing up for yourself in a mature way

examining flower/fruits/vegetables and how they are built. this still amazes me

the peace when you commute from and to work. like a buffer zone between two worlds.

holding the person you love after you haven't seen them for way too long

just to name a few...

>>9067850
he got me again what am i gunna do
he cant keep getting away with it

>>9067904
Fuck off back to redit senpai.

>>9066748
>I'll never have filthy sex with a girl I love because I'm a fucking loser[

>>9067915
so start winning senpai :)

>>9067908
>senpai
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
ty 4 proving my point

>>9066865
wtf i love muslims now?

>>9067117
fuck you

Come here bro, your mother, dude #mostbeautifulinthematerialverse

The human connection I can have with my fellow man

>>9067884
>simultaneously cumming, then drift off to sleep there and then
>looking into your newborn's eyes for the first time
>see the person you love hold the baby you made together

In no specific order...or?

>>9066642

Unironically: DMT trips.
I attach no spiritual meaning to them, but aesthetically they're unmatchable. Every DMT trip will be the most detailed, original and intrinsically artistic META-movie of your life. There is literally nothing in the observable universe that can compare to that experience.

The same applies to LSD and shrooms closed eyes visuals.

>>9068676
well, one couldn't happen witheout the other so it would HAVE to be in that particular order. but other than that, it wasn't intentional

>ctrl + f "boipussy"
>0 results
and here i was thinking this was a literature board, baka

>>9066670
>>9066748

Can you share a pic of her ass, Anon, please

Street food

>>9066642
I'm reading Nature by Emerson and he says it's nature itself and that includes all of the material universe. Even a corpse has beauty he says.

>There is no object so foul that intense light will not make beautiful. And the stimulus it affords to the sense, and a sort of infinitude which it hath, like space and time, make all matter gay. Even the corpse has its own beauty. But besides this general grace diffused over nature, almost all the individual forms are agreeable to the eye, as is proved by our endless imitations of some of them, as the acorn, the grape, the pine-cone, the wheat-ear, the egg, the wings and forms of most birds, the lion's claw, the serpent, the butterfly, sea-shells, flames, clouds, buds, leaves, and the forms of many trees, as the palm

Then later
> Nothing is quite beautiful alone: nothing but is beautiful in the whole. A single object is only so far beautiful as it suggests this universal grace. The poet, the painter, the sculptor, the musician, the architect, seek each to concentrate this radiance of the world on one point, and each in his several work to satisfy the love of beauty which stimulates him to produce. Thus is Art, a nature passed through the alembic of man. Thus in art, does nature work through the will of a man filled with the beauty of her first works.

>The world thus exists to the soul to satisfy the desire of beauty. This element I call an ultimate end. No reason can be asked or given why the soul seeks beauty. Beauty, in its largest and profoundest sense, is one expression for the universe. God is the all-fair. Truth, and goodness, and beauty, are but different faces of the same All. But beauty in nature is not ultimate. It is the herald of inward and eternal beauty, and is not alone a solid and satisfactory good. It must stand as a part, and not as yet the last or highest expression of the final cause of Nature.

>>9068693
>Unironically: DMT trips.
>I attach no spiritual meaning to them, but aesthetically they're unmatchable. Every DMT trip will be the most detailed, original and intrinsically artistic META-movie of your life. There is literally nothing in the observable universe that can compare to that experience.
>The same applies to LSD and shrooms closed eyes visuals.

Its kind of weird, absurd, interesting, something , that that is even allowed to physically happen; what does that say about the absolute limits of the complexity and 'flexibility, varietyness, speed, detail' of the brain-mind, that such events are possible, that it has this 'massive range' of potential qualia phenomenon, and these awareness experiences are possible; I am only saying intrigue, in what that says about the chemical mechanical computation construction of the brain-mind, how glimpses of some underlying 'watery' 'sensitivity itself' can so be real time disturbed in motion and info and perception, and this is in a/effect, 'what you call, You, the I, the thinker, the seeer, and its '"most immediate"" relational component system, the 'glass ball it/you are always looking into/are', is this screen savers, pixel dance, system chaos? To see patterns, geometry, complex, advanced, intricate...what does this say of the brainmind; some underlying organizations, that allow perception and inner vision to exist in the first place, that are usually stringently kept operating, by the normal events of a human life, which keeps one alive, the brain is always pumping its many parts and grand perception and exquisite variety of imaginational imagery and videory is constantly occurring, and then these new chemicals are entered into the system:

lets be honest, molecular biology is a more genius form of lego, more rules involved, it is a crazy game, it is not just shape that matters, it is not just new shaped molecule chemicals are entered into the system, its the shape (and mass, quantity), and the qualities (electric, spin) which determine how these bits, will interact with the mechanistic (but gradiently, relatively sensitive, and strong, hard and soft ware brain gradient), and when this novel chemical amount and type, interacts with the usually relatively, though robust, with relatively great leeway (especially other animals, racoons or rats or something that can eat like anything (dont know if those are right examples but have heard there are animals like hat)) well oiled machine of mind-brain-body, and the result is some spazz out, some interaction between multiple parts, the memory, the intuition, the imagination, the dreams, the multi tasking, the feeling, the smell, the taste, the desire, the one can have 10 or so thoughts and images in less than 10 seconds, the visualization, the 'lcd screen, and whats behind it', the hormones, the dumps and cascades

>>9066900
>loving family
Is this actually a thing in America? I don't think I know anyone with a loving nuclear family. Grandparents are usually based, though.

>>9067874
*tips fedora*

Flowers
Horses
Felines
An athletic body
Silk
Water
Cumulus clouds

>>9068896

Not him, but fuck you. He is right you low IQ retard.

Now go listen to some Jay Z and suck Usher's cock, fucking mediocre waste of flseh and blood.

>>9068989
>plucking on strings and banging on drums are more close to the ideal than other things

calm down you spooky pseud

her name was Katie

>>9069208

At least are more close to the ideal that some niggers talking about drugs and alcohol and money and ass and how fucking awesome they are on a microphone with some monotone ever-repeating electronic beat in the back.

We live in a society where there are several emperors without any clothes but nobody has the guts to tell it on everybody’s face.

>>9069256
Define this ideal of yours. Also, you can enjoy "classical" music without being a cringy racist.

>>9068693

Honestly, this.
The best part about it is that the experience is self-contained. It will be the most mindblowing thing you'll see in your lifetime, and you'll somehow feel completely satisfied by it.

Hopefully the afterlife will be an eternal DMT trip.

>>9069276

I don’t have an ideal: I just got mad because you called the other guy a fedora-type for no reason. I think he was talking more of a personal and emotional sensation, not imposing his view as the right one or the main one.

As for the racism part, I don’t have anything against those people color. What I don’t like is that one finds a lot of vicious, offensive, egocentric and aggressive messages in their music (and also on a lot of white people rap and hip hop songs as well) and nobody says anything about it, as if it was normal or commendable.

>>9069312
>nobody says anything about it
Don't worry dipshit, there are plenty of old ladies who hate rap music too

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>>9066642
A magical forest of impaled Turks which once stood on the border between the Ottoman Empire and the principality of Wallachia.

>>9069317

>Calls me dipshit
>Is the one who listens to niggers bragging about how much money they have
>Gives audience and value to people who would nauseate you in real life
>Enjoys the sound masturbation of untalented assholes saying how great they are
>Paying homage to males who think they are alpha and better that you

Yeah, I think that the dipshit here are you, m8

Submissive faggot.

>>9069335
>think that the dipshit here are you

*is you

>>9069335
>>9069340
Wow I sure am glad you corrected your typo in that passive aggressive rant of yours, there was no way I could have inferred your whiney baby message without the right verb tense. Do you sperg out like this in real life too? It's crazy to me how you can be so bitter and mean and not realize that that's the cause of all your problems, and not rap music

>>9069312
Putting classical music on a pedestal is a pretty fedora thing to do. And you don't belong here, go back to plebbit.

my FZ desou

>>9069214
still has remorse?

>>9069356

I can pretend when I need to pretend to socialize and have meaningful relationships, but I have no tolerance to mediocrity when it comes down to art. I play Snoop Dog and Dr. Dre in my car and laugh with my brother and my friends, but I do not have any grain of respect for those two rappers: they can’t even clean the feet of great poets and musicians, and I would never pay them the respect they don’t deserve.

Of course I laugh and play with my friends and with girls when we hear some rap music, some dirty lines, some club-songs, etc., but all the time I know very well that this is nothing more than trash that will be forgotten in no more than 15-20 years, aside from some “greatest hits from the 2000’s” video or something. I don’t pay any internal respect to mediocre artists; I don’t fool myself by saying that this kind of works also have they value. No matter what smiling faces I show and what jokes I make, inside I will never lie to myself: I know that only a handful of human beings produce art that will be forever remembered. Picasso and Pollock and Warhol and Tupac and Allen Ginsberg are mediocrities, simple as that: they couldn’t bet the best on their fields; they are losers. And the worse thing of all: they are losers that thought themselves great.

Of course you can find beauty everywhere, even in mediocre books, bad movies, stupid songs. Beauty is everywhere, and anyone can produce it, many times without the intention of doing so. It is sparkling all the time in many different places. But most of those moments are accidental – it is very different from those few minds who are constantly producing, over and over again, examples of the most perfect beauty standards that the human mind is capable off.

If one is not willing to try to be one of the best in the field then there is no point in even doing it. There are a lot of people on /lit/ that puzzle me because I can’t understand how they even find the desire to write when they are so destitute of talent or of obsessive will-power to become great.

If you are not willing to try to beat Shakespeare in poetry and drama, to beat Tolstoy on the novel, to beat Rembrandt in the arts, to beat Coppola and Kubrick on film, then don’t even try it. Of course you might not succeed, it is very likely, but at least conduct your career always with the obsession of being the best in mind.

>>9069418
>shitting on picasso
fight me irl fagit

>>9069418
beat it buddy

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Fire

>>9069486
>>9069501

I don’t know why you people get mad with me. I am sure you also have opinions about famous artists and works of art that go against what is held by the major public.

Also, in most threads on /lit/ I usually just make comments about technical aspects of poetry and novel/short-story constructions, and that mostly about the ones I like. I have learned with experience not to talk about the things I don’t like because it offends people and presents you as an obnoxious figure. The strange thing is that, when you proceed to dissect the work and show why it is not that good (something that people should appreciate, since it shows you are at least making an effort to really evaluate the work deeply and seriously) people get even more offended.

I admire Nabokov, for example, for really saying what he thought was bad art, even when it hurt the feelings of others and even when it was against the main view. However, I would never do that – it is a bad sort of exposition. I only do it in here because it is an anonymous board of discussion.

I tend to keep things to myself. But when people start to offend others and defend rap and hip hop as if those crap songs should be respected as art then I fill like the narrator of that short-story, I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream:

>AM said it with the sliding cold horror of a razor blade slicing my eyeball. AM said it with the bubbling thickness of my lungs filling with phlegm, drowning me from within. AM said it with the shriek of babies being ground beneath blue-hot rollers. AM said it with the taste of maggoty pork.AM touched me in every way I had ever been touched, and devised new ways, at his leisure, there inside my mind

I don’t say nothing in real life, but here, on an anonymous board, in a place devoted to literature and high art, in a place where, in spite of everything, one does find a lot of intelligent people, I sometimes lost my temper and actually say what’s on my mind.

>>9069553
fascinating

>>9066642
The thought of something beautiful.

>>9067884
Hey this was nice anon, thanks

>>9069553
you have the bad kind of autism

>>9067884
>simultaneously cumming, then drift off to sleep there and then
>long trips on empty roads at night

>check off everything on your to-do list and feel like you got your shit together. atleast for that moment.

>spring cleaning your whole apartment and then sit down and be content with your work
>finding a new piece of music that perfectly resonates with your mood in every way and you can't stop listening to it

>standing up for yourself in a mature way

>the peace when you commute from and to work. like a buffer zone between two worlds.


these are the ones can relate to, nicely done anon

>sound of rain
>smell of oud
>touch of skin

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>>9067884

>>9066642

Intelligence

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>>9066642
read doors of perception. objects are just as important as anything else

>>9067884
Y'all plebs really need to get into meditation ASAP.

Damn pleb.

MUSIC.

>>9070811
Experiencing "suchness" is a 10/10 experience.

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saving thread

>>9069290
I would prefer an afterlife in which I get to interact with other human beings... not a solipsistic DMT perma-trip.

That being said, it doesn't really matter because "the afterlife" doesn't exist.

>>9070814
Will it teach me how to call other anons 'plebs'?

>>9066865
Why do these little Aryan kids seem like such faggots?

My future gf.
Not even being ironic right now

>>9071123
but it's ironic that you're not being ironic, so you're being ironic

a young girl girls naked bottom

>>9067844
>>9067847
This is one of several universal word filters which have been in place since 2015. Stop your caterwauling.

>>9072231

People still say them all the time. It didn't work desu.

>>9069553
Have you ever been described as being "high functioning"?

>>9073384

No. But I suffered with terrible crises of panic and generalized anxiety, and both remedies and treatment did not work. I only healed when I discovered, by myself, books that emphasized the use of cognitive behavioral theory for a slow and harsh healing process.

The process of healing from the anxious episodes (when the anxiety-sydrome, after minor warnings and promises, finally fully erupted in my mind like some sort of gangrenous lotus flower, polluting my entire thought process with its toxic pollen) was the hardest I've ever faced in my life.

I remember the attacks very well: it was like drowning in dry land, drowning in broad daylight, surrounded by people who had no idea that I was being smothered by their side. But I am cured today, altough some echoes and palpitations of the old disease still visit me from time to time.

>>9066642
Cock.

Watching them sweet likes roll in on your fresh meme on Facebook

>>9069418
>>9069553
didn't read a word desu reply to this post if u didn't neither

>>9066748
plz someone give this man a nobel prize

>>9073478
kek

>>9070949
is it female?

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>>9068989
>>9069256
>>9069312
>>9069317
>actually gettting mad because of something on the internet
>being a fedora pseud

desu DESU

>>9066642
You

>>9073536
*blushing*

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>>9066642
Whatever the fuck I saw when tripping on Benadryl on the edge of a K-hole

Lit Related
Reading the bible on 400mg+ of Benadryl.

Terror and beauty intersect at an interesting place.

>>9069400
i miss her

>>9066642

Alcohol

>>9070962
This and more, anon.

>>9070826

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>>9067884
>croissant

my girlfriend

>>9075775
Come back here and give us a real answer when she eventually cheats on you.

>>9075397
What else? You seem very enlightened, anon.

I hope it's not something from a book, because I've read all of them.

>>9067884
nice post anon

>>9073797
Move on.

Black holes

>>9076355
It's about things that don't depend on others. And continents that lay inside.

And reading without practice is nothing. Mental speculation at best.

Mathematics.

>>9076851
How strangely dogmatic that all sounds.

Her

>>9076851
well, i do meditate. and it's awesome. but i get into the same stage doing some of the things i listed. guess it's about complete focus and dissolving the ego.
for example: playing piano feels the same as meditating for a long time. atleast that part where everything falls into place and it just flows

This seems like the shit posting thread, so I don't mind pulling my pants down a bit.
I normally always drink bourbon, but I quite like dirty martinis.

>>9077271
how about clean martinis?
damn, i wish i wasn't trying to get pregnant...

>tfw no alcohole for about 2 years

>>9077276
I think I've just been craving salt. You seem to be as well.

>>9069418
>>9069553
I actually agree with most of what you said. See, anons are calling you autistic mainly because it's unusual for someone to explain their subjective opinions in such detail, especially on here, not because of the actual content of what you're saying.

>>9077299
You seem to be unable to express your thoughts concisely, though. Cluttering your 4chan posts with purple prose is not a positive testament to your writing abilities.

>>9066900
Pleb

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>>9066642
One time I had a dream that I walked out into the backyard of my childhood home to find a huge grassy incline leading down and down. It was night. My brother stepped up next to me, and we looked up. Above us, aliens had encased the planet in a force-shield, reflecting the earth back at us. Behind the infinite, transparent earth, was a bright, long exposure picture of the stars.

That was the most beautiful thing I ever saw.

>>9077339
It's the most patrician way of life there is. Not that you'd know.

rap is shit you dumb faggots

>>9077582
>>9069553
p.s.
k i l l yourself if you think rap is good

>>9076862
Is gravity dogmatic to you? Do you think you sound clever?

>>9077239
It goes way beyond that. I'm practicing yogic meditation for six years now on the regular. Some experiences through it cannot be explained in a classical sense, so far.

>>9077476
Or not that you would.
Not even him but that picture is as disgusting as it comes from a hypocritical viewpoint. The calvinistic 'vision' in this is already carrying all the information to build and produce cancer.
If you deny this and if the naivite of your picture has anything to do with what you say, you are either a godless hypocrite yourself or ignorant as hell.

>>9077350
So dreams then. Or the human brain/intelligence.

>>9077476
You sound like a dumb 14 year old.

>>9066642

my dick desu

>>9077648
>So dreams then. Or the human brain/intelligence.
No.
Nature, obviously. Beauty coupled with a comforting sense of insignificance.

>>9077658
>Nature, obviously
So everything then. That's just a bullshit answer since literally everything in the material world is nature.

>>9077667
Don't be a smartass.

>>9066670
But women don't have anal orgasms?

>>9077630
try it

>>9077675
no they don't. only guys who can't tell if a girl is having an orgams think that. those are usually the ones that have never experienced a real female orgasm too

>>9077684
So was his sense of beauty based on a lie?

>>9077687
meta-beauty

>>9077684
Vaginal orgasms are a myth, you dolt.

>>9077687
absolutely.

it still astounds me how many guys can't tell if a girl is having an orgasm.
you moan once and they think they are gods gift to womankind...

>>9077690
they aren't a myth. just a lot rarer than the average male thinks since he misinterprets the signals. clitoral orgasms are a lot more common but also often misinterpreted

>>9077672
Don't be a halfwit.

>>9077680
try what? Piano playing?

>>9077720
no, explaining it

>retards arguing over which form of product consuming is better

hello neo/lit/

>>9067118
This, I also love this guys gf

>>9077749
cucked

>>9066750
Have done basically every psychedelic under the sun and even 45mg of DMT did nothing for me at all. I smoked out of a lightbulb, three hits and everything. Am I just a fuckup or is the high way less intense than people think?

>>9077350
How did you feel when you woke up and realized it was 'only' a dream?

>>9077788
Well, I wasn't sad that it was just a dream, I was happy that I'd seen something that amazing. It's not something you'd be able to see normally, or experience it like that. Though I was pretty annoyed that I wouldn't be able to replicate it for other people to see. Even if I managed to do something with projectors, it probably wouldn't look as amazing as it did in the dream.

>>9077728
Thank you. This. It feels like this board is full of sixteen year olds now

>>9077726
It's hard to do and maybe counter productive in the sense that it might affect your own experience, but I'll try.

One phase of it was like discovering entities that you could communicate with. Another was the sensation of time stretching out and of huge worlds, waiting for you, being there. Countries and oceans inside myself.
Again, this may have come only since going without expectation is a part of it. Your experience might differ a lot and will likely be much more physical in the beginning. But not less interesting, I would think.

Spiders

>>9077655
how big?

>>9077630
Well you could argue that the insistence of the existence of gravity is dogmatic, merely because its existence is proposed as incontrovertibly true. But the problem here is that the existence of gravity, to any sane or non-solipsistic person, *is* incontrovertibly true. That's why the term dogmatic is used derogatorily, because it refers to things that are proposed as incontrovertibly true that usually actually quite controvertible. I called your former post dogmatic because you refer to 'teachings' and teachings are classified as teachings usually because they're assumed to be true—incontrovertibly true—hence 'dogmatic.' You don't teach falsehoods unless you're an inadvertent idiot or a cult leader.

So yes, I think I sound clever. I wouldn't post if I didn't.

>>9066642
I even don't know what beings on next planet are, therefore I can't give you an answer, and anyway universe is unlimited by size, so we can talk only about things in lived-in by humanity space.

>>9079585
I wasn't explicitly referring to teachings, the word I used was 'practice', but ok; same thing you could argue. I chose gravity though because it is generally considered a 'law of nature' and something you can, if you understand it, work with and maybe manipulate and play with.
Don't you think it is odd that a greater part of meditational techniques work in the same way or point in the same direction? To what one could call a physics of another sphere? With laws?
You can argue that (reductionist) physics is dogmatic in that aspect as well.

>>9078201
about 3

me tbqh

>>9079623
And your answer would be?

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>>9066642
The fact that there's no such thing as a "material universe".

>>9079907
But anon, I wasn't criticizing meditation as dogmatic, just your provision of it. Meditation has many proven effects, and far greater anecdotal ones. We know this. In truth, I was criticizing you, someone who denounces others as 'plebs' while contradictorily espousing the values of meditation, a practice deeply steeped in universal acceptance of yourself, others, and all things alike. You defy meditation's fundamental tenet of peace, then you condescendingly respond to my criticism of you by referring to very vague concepts in a far too assured manner. Loose information dealt with assurance often can be categorized as dogmatic, so if you don't want someone to call you dogmatic, don't share unspecific information in such a didactic and patronizing way. You might not have meant to be patronizing, I'm just sharing with you how I perceived it. Anyway, meditation's great, calling people 'plebs' unprovoked really isn't—maybe you should meditate more to get over that ;-)

>>9079908
sorry

>>9080016
Dude, get a sense of humor or leave this website

>>9080558
k

>>9067884
I want more