Thoughts on This Image?

>>9003584
I love it but it triggered me a bit because I wanted to know who wasn't a pseudointellectual
You should add Nassim Taleb for funs

>>9003584
A good bait for newfags desu.

>>9003584
I don't know why Sam Hyde is on there, he's just a comedian. I doubt anyone actually gets their ideology from him.

Bill Nye is 100% deserved, as is that Star Trek queer. Gavin McInnes has some pretty good views on some things, but he's super degenerate.

Missing Thomas Aquinas

>>9003598
>shitting on bill nye

the guy has done nothing but try to inspire interest in science in plebs and kids for his whole career. I wouldnt listen to him on public policy, but he has done great good in this world.

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>>9003603

>>9003603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROe28Ma_tYM

>>9003603
After he did his little bit about being a "scientist", He went on to promote all kinds of political agendas under the guise of being that scientist, and millennials take his word for gospel because their fat black middle school science teacher showed them his videos instead of teaching, so they have some sort of spiritual connection with the engineer.

>>9003599
He doesn't count

>>9003584
Who is that chick below Anita Sarcasmian?

>>9003615
Syrian Partisan Girl on YouTube.

>>9003584
I like it, it's good bait. It has the selection of people so that everyone will try to claim that it isn't true for some of them

>>9003610
Bill Nye the Bachelors Degree in Engineering Guy

>>9003584
Zizek doesn't belong on that list.

>>9003627
Of course he doesn't, sweetie

>>9003627
>Zizek doesn't belong on that list.
>Zizek is part of my ideology, it conflicts with my ideology to see him ousted as a pseudointellectual therefore he doesn't belong on this list

>>9003603
>interest in science in plebs
Science is (nowadays, at least) for plebs, that is, those who need to work for a living.

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>>9003584
>putting based Hitchens alongside the likes of Alex Jones, Jon Strewart, Chomsky, Bill Nye, etc...
Kill yourself

>>9003643
I don't know which Hitchens you are referencing.

Seeing as they are both shit, I'll just ignore your post!

One wonders who the guy who made that picture actually admires himself, but probably no one since he's almost certainly a pathetic loser.

>>9003653
There is only one Hitchens work speaking of. Further proof of your abject ignorance.

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>>9003627
Here I fixed it for you

>>9003659
Why would you admire someone?

Only betas admire others.

>>9003659
I think we need to put you up there too. Got a pic?

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>>9003665
>Only betas admire others.

>>9003599
Oh fuck you

>>9003671
How is this related to my post?

>>9003584
>Chomsky, Zizek, and Lawrence Krauss considered on the same level as John Green, John Oliver, Alex Jones, and Joe Rogan.

No matter what you think of them, by any definition the first three are prominent and universally-recognize intellectuals, while the other three are not in any way. And just because someone isn't an intellectual doesn't mean they should be ignored (e.g. George Carlin).

So overall, I don't see anything in this image that I agree with.

>>9003629
>>9003634
>>9003664
Not an argument.

>>9003684
Using the word beta unironically means you're almost certainly a /pol9k/tard.

>>9003689
You do realize language isn't confined to a board on an imageboard, correct?

Do you have autism?

>>9003627
>being triggered by an obvious bait list

>>9003685
>>Chomsky, Zizek, and Lawrence Krauss
>Zizek
Kek, how is someone still using psychoanalysis not a pseudointellectual? You just like the man so you forgive him for what he is but if you looked in your heart you know it to be true: he is one of the biggest contemporary pseudointellectuals.

I like the man too, but after reading his books and listening to his readings, while I can nod in agreement at times, I could only conclude that he is a charlatan, a very likeable one, but still a charlatan.

>>9003686
>Not an argument.
Neither is your reply an argument and neither gave that anon any argument that Zizek shouldn't be on this list.

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>>9003584
reminded me of this

>>9003695
Are you an white alpha male fascist reactionary?

No, then you're obviously a beta m8 :^) Enjoy being on the bottom rung.

>>9003706
What are you talking about?

We were talking about admiring others. That is a politically neutral discussion which you have suddenly made political.

Do you have autism?

>>9003608
Why does the frog stay in hell when he can just walk out the door? Really makes you think...

>>9003711
There's literally nothing wrong with admiring other people that are respectable, and thinking that there is, is the real autism here.

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>>9003706
>le pol boogeyman

>>9003584

Take Nick Land off that chart this very instant, you fucking faggot!

>>9003716
I regard no other man in this world as greater than myself.

I look upon all those in the list above and only think of conquering over them, not admiring.

It is simply by will and being to overcome all men on this planet.

Forgive me, but admire me in the process ;).

>>9003724
cute

>>9003723
>defending this shit tier "philospher"

>>9003724
This

Admiration is for women.

>>9003732

TAKE THAT BACK

>>9003699
I don't like Zizek, and obviously you don't either, but he has two doctorates, spends his life discussing ideas and conduction research, and he has advanced the paradigm of academic discussion in a number of fields. Perhaps he is a poor intellectual, but he is an intellectual in any sense of the word.

>>9003732
>>defending this shit tier "philospher"
I hope you feel the same for Zizek otherwise you might just think he is shit tier because he doesn't confirm to your beliefs

I personally think both are shit tier, though even shit tier philosophers get stuff right or are even at moments interesting themselves

>>9003704
I think of this list much as I thought of the first list (>>9003685)

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>>9003766
The point is that they're both bait and that we shouldn't waste our lives getting triggered by charts some 4chan autist made to rile us up

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>>9003584
>Peterson

>>9003584

Could we make a list of who all of these people are so that we can avoid them? I know about half of them, so please complete my list.

Row 1: Alex Jones, (don't remember the faggot's name), Bill Nye, ???, ???, Chomsky, don't remember, ???, ???
Row 2: h3h3, ???, ???, Milo, Stefan Molyneux, Black Science Guy, some faggot from infowars, right?, ???, some feminist cunt?
Row3: ???, ???, Dawkins, ???, thunderf00t, Lauren Southern perhaps? , that guy who put a banana up his ass, ???, ???, Anita Sarkesian
Row 4: Peter Thiel (?), ???, don't remember, Sargon of Akkad (obviously), young turks (obviously), ???, ???, fat gamer SJW guy ???, ???, antisemitic jewish priest guy what's his name?, ???
Row 5: ???, Zizek, Ann Coulter, ???, forgot his name, John Green, ???, ????, ???, ???
Row 6: Harold Bloom, ???, some comedian?, ???, ???, ???, ???, Nick Land, Lindybeige
Row 7: ????, ???, Maddox, ???, Richard Spencer, ????

>>9003584
Only psueds care whether other people are psueds.

>>9003783
Row 1: Alex Jones, Bill Maher, Bill Nye, Bill O’Reilly, William F. Buckley, Noam Chomsky, Christopher Hitchens, ???, Gavin McInnis
Row 2:???, Joe Rogan, Lawrence Krauss, Milo Yiannopoulos, Stefan Molyneux, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, ???, ???, Laci Green
Row 3: ???, ???, Richard Dawkins, ???, thunderf00t, Lauren Southern perhaps? , AmazingAtheist, ???, ???, Anita Sarkesian
Row 4: Dave Rubin, ???, Sam Harris, Sargon of Akkad, The Young Turks, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???
Row 5: ???, Slavov Zizek, Ann Coulter, ???, Michio Kaku, John Green, ???, John Oliver, Reza Aslan, ???
Row 6: Harold Bloom, ???, George Carlin, Jon Stewart, ???, ???, ???, Nick Land, Lindybeige
Row 7: ????, Jordan Peterson, Maddox, Pat Buchanan, Richard Spencer, ????

>>9003784
this

>>9003603
>science
>good work
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>9003723

>Accelerationism intensifies

>>9003685
>JOHN Green
>JOHN Oliver
>Alex JONES
>JOE Rogan
huh...really...

>>9003724
lmao, you will never aspire to anything, I can tell that by the fact that you're posting on 4chan

That picture has several scientists. Exactly how is a scientist a pseudo intellectual?

>>9003830
(You)

>>9003839
They can participate in pseudo-intellectualism, for example, Lawrence Krauss taking a shit on philosophy.

>>9003870

Bill Nye, Richard Dawkins, Milo Yanapoloololo, Ben Shapiro, Christopher Hitchens, Michio Kaku, Sargon of Akkad.

All of them someone participate in pseudo-intellectualism? Can you give some concrete examples?

Disagreeing with you is not the same as being a pseudo intellectual.

>>9003894
Nye, Milo, and Akkad are NOT scientists. Dawkins and Hitchens regularly talk shit about things outside of their knowledge or fields. The rest Idk too much about.

>>9003894
Just ask yourself how rigorous their thought is.

>>9003910
>Nye, Milo, and Akkad are NOT scientists.

Then it's a good thing I didn't say they were.

> Dawkins and Hitchens regularly talk shit about things outside of their knowledge or fields

Dawkins pretty much just sticks to evolution. I haven't seen him talking about anything he is not qualified to talk about.

Hitchens is a journalist. That kind of covers a lot of subjects, in a way.

Not that it matters. If you talk about something outside of your field of research, that doesn't make you a pseudo intellectual.

Is there anything is particular they said that rustled your jimmies?

>>9003913

Ok. Pretty rigorous, I guess?

>>9003926
>Ok. Pretty rigorous, I guess?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROe28Ma_tYM

inb4 he retracted his statements

>>9003584
Agree except for Christopher Hitchens (I don't think he even wanted to be called an "intellectual", and he actually talked some interesting things apart from his fedora shit), Chomsky & Zizek are let's say actually "philosophers" and Yuri Bezmenov only tried to show how the Soviet Union destroyed America. Nothing bad about that.

>>9003894
Ben Shapiro is like the jewest guy ever

>>9003934

While I didn't exactly like his "drop a hammer on your foot and see what happens" analogy, nothing in that video made me think of him as a pseudo intellectual.

Science is better than philosophy. Deal with it.

>>9003584
I think it covers enough people to qualify as a troll post.

>>9003584
Hitchens is fine, the rest can fuck off.

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>>9003965

>Science is better than philosophy. Deal with it.
>Creating an opposition where there is none

Philosophy is the crown of science.

Only recently has science been getting uppity and started wanting to be the crown of philosophy.

>>9003783
>>9003808

Updated:

Row 1: Alex Jones, Bill Maher, Bill Nye, Bill O’Reilly, William F. Buckley, Noam Chomsky, Christopher Hitchens, Anthony Fantano, Gavin McInnis.
Row 2: h3h3, Joe Rogan, Lawrence Krauss, Milo Yiannopoulos, Stefan Molyneux, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Paul Joseph Watson, ???, Laci Green.
Row 3: Gore Vidal, ???, Richard Dawkins, Ben Shapiro, thunderf00t, Lauren Southern, AmazingAtheist, ???, Peter Hitchens, Anita Sarkesian.
Row 4: Dave Rubin, Sam Hyde, Sam Harris, Sargon of Akkad, The Young Turks, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???
Row 5: ???, Slavov Zizek, Ann Coulter, ???, Michio Kaku, John Green, Yuri Bezmenov, John Oliver, Reza Aslan, Owen Jones.
Row 6: Harold Bloom, ???, George Carlin, Jon Stewart, ???, Mehdi Hasan, ???, Nick Land, Lindybeige.
Row 7: ???, Jordan Peterson, George Ouzounian, Pat Buchanan, Richard Spencer, ????.

>>9003976

You should stick to your guns. Forsake all modern conveniences, go live in a cave and grow a beard, while you contemplate existance.

Stop relying on the inferior trade.

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>>9003988

There he goes again.

>>9003828
Do you project often?

Add Kimmel, Fallon and that retarded british """"""comedian""""""

>>9004091
They don't count. They're just talk show hosts, not trying to be intellectual or gain money through pseudo nonsense.

>>9004091
>>9004104
Russel brand was participating in these tv-brexit.debates though
That makes him a pseudo-intellectual

>>9004112
you're right about brand, i'm not op but i'll add him

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>>9003704
>coen brothers
yeah big lebowsky is the same as No country for old men.

>>9004112
I wasn't talking about Brand but's you're right. What's the name of that british anti Trump talk show idiot with an annoying voice? I think he wears glasses.

>>9004152
john oliver, but he's already on there

Really don't know why Sargon of Akkad is still taken seriously. Dude has been proven to be a lying sack of shit on at least one occasion. And it wasn't like, "oops, I goofed". The guy either legit tried to mislead his audience or he's so utterly lazy and retarded that he couldn't even bother reading the entire wikipedia article on the issue. I forget what it was exactly, some study about rape statistics on college campuses I believe.

Then he got demolished by some feminist in a debate. Look, youtube people are just that. Regular joes who start up a youtube channel to voice their opinion, nothing wrong with that. But people should NOT be taking their word as gospel.

>>9003584
>Chomskek, Zikek and le discernible talent jew
>on the same level as youtube stars and TV ""scientists""

>>9003584
Am I supposed to know all or most of these people?

Why isn't there a list of not-pseudo intellectuals to go with it?

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>>9003584
Hasn't Sargon of Akkad been dead for like four thousand years?

Remove:
Anthony Fantano, on the grounds that he reviews music and doesn't really claim expertise on anything else besides shitty meme videos.
Ben Shapiro, on the grounds that he has published several books of independent and original merit. Trading on Jewish ingroup preference to expose deliberate efforts in Hollywood to propagate political agendas isn't something that many people, by definition, can do, and even fewer are willing to rise above the tribalism to do it.
Yuri Bezmenov, on the grounds that his lectures and writings cover a very narrow scope that he is tremendously qualified to speak on (KGB agitprop and subversion efforts during the Cold war years). The fact that his work is used in poor taste and out of context by idiots isn't a reflection on the works themselves.

All the rest are pseuds d e s u

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>>9003643

>tfw no go playing qt asian gf

Women that play games like Chess or Go tend to pretty literate too.

Feels bad man

>>9004260
my nerdy go waifu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zjRBVVRdDM

>>9003685
Lawrence Krauss only knows shit about physics. Whenever he opens his mouth to talk about anything else he out of his depth, which doesn't seem to stop him because that is basically all he ever does.

Take Chomsky THE FUCK out of that image already.

Why is Harold Bloom on there?
I take it you heard him shit on DFW (who's not on the list) and got butthurt

>>9004248
>>9004389
>>9005001
>>9004222
>>9003970
>>9003950
>>9003780
>>9003723
>>9003685
>>9003643
>>9003598
>Please remove my x individual with whom I agree and admire

This is why the image was created. For brainlets like yourselves.

>>9003977
between AmazingAtheist and Peter Hitchens is Steven Crowder
under Anita Sarkesian is Syrian Partisan Girl
5th in row 6 is Piero Scaruffi

>>9003704
>calling based HVK talentless
he's no Bruno Walter, sure, but talentless?

>>9005035
:^)

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>>9003584
he doesn't understand the value of rhetoric sounds like you got some reading to do pleb

Did you just replace Putin with Gore Vidal? I don't think either is a good fit for the pic.

>>9005035
I like Jon Stewart and John Oliver a lot more than I like Buckley or Peter Hitchens, but I still recognize that the first two are not real intellectuals and the latter two are. It's a matter of taxonomy rather than admiration. Besides, I don't think that anyone should be ignored just because they aren't an intellectual, so I don't care if anyone is removed because I think the image is wrong.

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>>9005511

>I like Jon Stewart and John Oliver

OUT OUT OUT!

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>>9005681
And again, added Glenn Gould

>>9005686
What's wrong with Bernstein and Gould?

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>>9003704
this list is great because it's got such variety that it can trigger everyone while simultaneously attracting them based on the people they agree on.

That being said
>C. Bale
>talentless
>David Lynch
> only talentless part of the time
>Urobutcher
>pic related
>Elliot Smith
>Vonnegut
etc. etc. etc.

>>9003584
>Fantano and Carlin on the list
why

>>9003704
>stopped at Jacques Derrida

>>9005704
Because:
>>9005727

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>>9005681
Why did you add school-shooter-hyde? There's already the CUM Hyde

>>9003704
>Kafka
I bet you read a translation.

>>9003610
what the fuck?

>>9005727
>this list is great because it's got such variety that it can trigger everyone while simultaneously attracting them based on the people they agree on.
That's because it was made by multiple people.I actually added half of those faces
>>9005818
He was one of them. As a rule I only added artists that I liked.

>>9003603
Bill Nye singlehandedly created the fucking stupid STEMfag culture that ruled the internet for years. He can go fuck himself.

Honestly, if I wanted to learn shitty, pop science from some faggot without a graduate degree, I would have gone to public school.

>>9003584
There's no more an iq requirement on being an intellectual than a penis length req for a porn actor.

Sure, to be a porn star it's unlikely you'll make it with 4 inches of banana, but it's not exclusionary.

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Final, definitive version.

>>9006231
10/10 but I would also put Trump, Norm MacDonald and Karl Marx in as well

>>9003610
Oh shit fuck this guy so much I am cringing hard

>>9003584
Fantano is just a music reviewer wtf

>>9006231
>Final, definitive version.
I don't see OP's thread on there.

>>9003584
Yuri and Zizek shouldn't really be on there.

>>9006273
>OP is a real person

>>9003719
/pol/ actually believes everyone thinks they are the boogie man
Kek

there are some very loose connections between some of these too loose for it to be considered seriously.

>>9006665
>too loose for it to be considered seriously
just like ur mum

>>9004247
Kek

though if you're being sincere, some dip uses his name as a youtube account. I've heard him described as "a more cleaned up Amazing Atheist"

>>9003584
I'm gay for Gavin McInnes, he resonates with me on a spiritual level, hes just a bit too much "Alex Jones" for most people

>>9006691
Don't know amazing atheist.

Is the channel related to history?

>>9003603
bill nye is a total dick in person. I wouldn't doubt for half a second he did all those science shows just for the money

>>9006739
basically a moderate who wants strict gun control. Sees the best of both sides in politics and is pretty impartial as long as guns aren't involved, but has a very "I'm above it all" attitude

>>9003584
I do enjoy Stephan Molineux for his in depth statistical analysis videos

>>9006739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn6P5KaNbsM

>>9005727
>this list is great because it's got such variety that it can trigger everyone
it's beautiful isn't it

why is dear Lindy in there? he's just a nice guy.

>>9003610
what the fuck did i just listen to

>>9005681
Politicians don't count.

>>9006231
Go away, including people you dislike is not how this works.

>>9003584
>no pinker
>no paglia

Looks like I win this time.

>>9003685
Your second sentence refutes your first. You're a braindead chimp. No wonder you don't like the image.

>>9003584
>I only recognize 15 of these people

>>9003584
Thunderfoot is not a pseud. Neither is Lindy.

>>9006231
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>>9003584
>Compile an image with virtually everyone in it
>say they're dumb
>Guaranteed replies

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holy shit

>>9003584
Most of these people aren't even fit for the title 'pseudo intellectual'

>>9007391
Turning a hilarious pic into an even funnier one, actually

>>9006231
why the fuck is Jason Segel on this at all?

>>9003643
The wrong Hitchens died. Their father should have killed himself so we wouldn't have to listen to the drivel of these two imbeciles.

>>9007858
no, your picture is bad, go back to >>>/r/eddit

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>>9003627
Zizek is too much of a clown to be taken seriously. He has some funny anecdotes and ticks, which seem to outweigh the occasional good point

Are there any contemporary non-pseuds?

>>9008108
There's no such thing as a contemporary genius.

Geniuses are recognised after the fact.

>>9005035
actually the image is a trap within a trap. it attract all the absolute morons like them to dispute it but the REAL quarry is the total idiots like you who seek to explain to them.

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>>9003610

>>9003610
>"I think therefore I am." What if you don't think about it?
Fucking lmao at least read what you're criticizing holy shit

Are there any refutations of icycalm's philosophy beyond calling it edgy?

>>9003704
>Kafka
>Glenn Branca
I agree with a bunch of these but you went too far.

>>9008302
Neither of those follow classical rules of balance and beauty. They revel in the brutality of industrial civilisation (early).

>>9003704
>citation needed: the image

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Honest question why is h3h3 on this list? He makes silly YouTube videos for little kids...

Would be like adding PewDiePie to the picture.

>>9005844
What public university doesn't have teachers with a graduate degree? All of my teachers have at least a masters and half have a phd from Berkeley and I go to a cc

>>9006739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pULbmQSh4x8

Name one (1) bad thing about Ben Shapiro.

>>9008627
I stopped watching h3h3 around the time he started to get more domineering, and also started going for weaker "cringe" videos. The one video where he makes fun of the "cringey" actor kid (gamer-gear I think?) was really low-hanging fruit for Ethan to attack. I completely unsubscribed when he used his stupid FUPA mark to protect his videos from people who would otherwise want them taken down. Attacking embarrassing things people do and calling it trademark is pseudo-intellectual in all aspects.

>>9003611

He only debated people on evolution and climate change which is fine.

Ok so someone correct me if I'm wrong but is pseudointellectual supposed to mean "someone skilled at turning their opinion into entertainment and have a dedicated audience who widely identifies with or adopts their ideas."

I assume that the reason I'm supposed to ignore them is because their ideas have an emotional resonance that should betrays in a thinking man a sort of suspicion of their validity, that real facts don't elicit an emotional response so emotionally driven leaders of thought are to be avoided?

But why is this all intrinsically bad? What are the alternatives? Am I supposed to only look up to STEM figures? Am I not supposed to look up to figures at all? Am I supposed to favor more and more obscure thinkers until I'm removed from relating to the population at large? Doesnt that make me a less effective person in the end for vain reasons? Doesn't that sacrifice practical purpose to feed my personal ego in my taste? Could you not make the argument that's somehow worse than thinking about pseudointellectual thinkers?

Could you make the argument that dismissing them entirely instead of examining them critically for the value hidden beneath their emotional appeal is the real patricians path?

Not trying to strawman just can't think of what I'm supposed to get from this

>>9009758
Name me one GOOD thing about him

He is just another whining pundit that thinks he is a victim of a world hellbent in making him gay

>>9009324
I would bet he was referring to secondary education.

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>>9010830

What has Fantano done that would make anyone think hes an intellectual or pseudo-intellectual? I know he has a second channel where he posts meme shit but other than that I've never seen him talk seriously on anything but music, other than that video he did on depression.

>>9011337
It's his stuff about music that makes him a pseud.

>>9011358
Why?

>>9010830
>responding
I'd say you reacted the way you're supposed to

>>9006739
here you go son
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Amazing_atheist

>>9011337
>I've never seen him talk seriously on anything but music
I've seen him go into politics a bit in regards to political music, but he seems like a pretty run-of-the-mill leftist that's tired of the neoliberalism that's taken over the modern left.

>>9003598
>I doubt anyone actually gets their ideology from him.
I have some bad news for you anon.

Why the fuck is my favourite music youtuber on this list?

>>9003584
>David Icke
>Ben Stiller

Detail this image.

>>9003776
Yeah, but where's the fun in that?

>>9006231
I 100% agree with this cha...
>FilthyFrank
Fucking kys.