Why is he always sad?

Thingken of life

Because of the violence of the world, the state and corporate control of society, the prospects for humanity his grandchildren are facing from environmental destruction and conflicts

>>8978695
the fact that Straight White Males still exist and continue to opress people of color makes me very, very sad.
t.Niam ''White Genocide' Chobsky

>>8978695
Why aren't you, OP?

>>8978714
I am

>>8978695
He's remembering all the Cambodian children he indirectly murdered when he gave the Khmer Rouge his support and denied genocide was taking place

>>8978743
Hard mode: quote him supporting the Khmer Rouge and denying genocide

>>8978743
Did you know that Americas secret bombing of Cambodia probably killed half a million people?
Did you know the break down of society the bombing caused probably killed another half a million people?
Did you know it was this breakdown of society and massive death toll that paved the way for the Khmer Rogue to come to power?
Did you know everyone stopped whining about Cambodia in 1979 when the USA began supporting the Khmer Rouge on account of Vietnam intervening?
Did you know at the exact same time the Cambodian thing was going on, Indoesia was invading East Timor?
Did you know that Indonesia did this with total American support?
Did you know that Ford and Kissinger personally flew to Jakarta to meet Suharto and approve the whole thing?
Did you know that 90% of the arms Indonesia used in the invasion were supplied by the USA?
Did you know that American arms are sold on the strict provision they may only be used for defence and nations are supposed to be subjected to harsh sanctions if the arms are used for aggression?
Did you know the USA used its Security Council to block all resolutions condemning the Indonesian invasion of East Timor?
Did you know that while the press was going hysteric about Cambodia - a conflict America could not influence - this press were silent about East Timor - a conflict it could very easily influence?

>>8978774
"I'm a huge faggot who think it's okay to kill Cambodian children just as long it's a communist doing the killing. Also, the thousands of refugees and journalists reporting on the nonexistent genocide are part of a government mass media conspiracy to trick people into hating communism. My bourgeois life is funded by the Pentagon."

- Noam Chomsky speaking in 1977 at an NAACP seminar on the benefits of robbing and raping white people

Because he now wishes he could corroborate his hypotheses with a reference corpus, but he himself has argued against them.

>>8978774
He never supported the Khmer Rogue. He did however campaign very hard that there was no evidence there was genocide happening, even going so far as to denounce the legitimacy of first hand accounts of escaped survivors. He still hides behind his bullshit excuse of "oh well I was technically correct" when called out on it

>>8978808
Did you know that Noam Chomsky supports genocide?

Why are analytics so repulsive?

>>8978832
Ah, this old meme.

Why do anti-chomskytards always clutch at the smallest of straws? It's almost as if they have no criticism:^)

>>8978831
He did no such thing and I am waiting for your citations and quotes.

He and Edward S. Herman questioned the one source everyone was citing, a translated review of a French priests book.
They went and did s crazy thing, they got a copy of it.
And found it didn't say what people were claiming.
They pointed out pictures of concentration camps had been proved to have been faked in Cambodia by foreign press.
They went to the State Department for reliable facts.
The whole point of what they were doing was comparing the coverage to that of East Timor, and to attempt to adhere to the intellectual rigour of telling the truth even about official enemies who it is alright to lie and exaggerate about.

You notice you and other fags here never mention Timor
Because you don't know
Because you didn't read
You just repeat what others say

>>8978843
>pointing out that somebody supports genocide is not a criticism
This is your brain on Marxism

>>8978823
Did you know that when Chomsky and Herman contacted the French writer whose mistranslated review was the source of all the wild claims about Cambodia and asked if he would want to set the record straight, his response was "20,000 or 2 million who cares?"

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>>8978850
>yeah he denied genocide was taking place, but what about East Timor?

>>8978855
Where did he support genocide
I want primary sources

>>8978855
>>pointing out that somebody supports genocide is not a criticism

Go on, buddy.

Link the video again so I can blow you the fuck out like I do everytime one of you retards posts this video.

He never advocates genocide and you know he doesn't.

But I'll wait, dork. Post the video :^)

>2017
>expecting an argument based on truth and evidence

>>8978860
>we should not be concerned about our own actions
>we should be concerned about the actions of others we cannot influence, and if we exaggerate what they are doing that's okay

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>>8978743
>>8978823
>>8978832
>>8978855
>>8978860
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IUU59B6lw

>>8978865
>Link the video again so I can blow you the fuck out like I do everytime one of you retards posts this video.
Literally what the fuck are you talking about? The world is not your topsy-turvy set of anxieties and experiences, you mongoloid. I have zero idea what video you're talking about; if you want to have an imaginary argument with a YouTube video then go to YouTube, or better yet, Get off the internet because it's rotting your brain. Christ

>>8978885
Not an argument lmao.

Nice attempt at false-flagging with your "haha youre just p-paranoid w-what video"


Dork!

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>>8978873
>we should not be concerned about genocide

>>8978695
He's a fraud and he knows it.

>>8978885
>I have zero idea what video you're talking about;

Nice try

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>>8978885
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IUU59B6lw
You do now. Fag.

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why is anyone

>>8978899
You should be concerned first and foremost with what you are responsible for and can influence - like Indonesia's invasion of a East Timor

If you want to be concerned about Cambodia, you should look how Americas destruction of the country laid the groundwork for what followed

>>8978919
I'm more concerned about Noam Chomsky, known genocide denier and the subject of this discussion. If you want to play pretend and imagine up all sorts of wonderful and whimsical scenarios in statecraft then find another thread

Do you notice nobody complains about the Faurisson Affair anymore? I guess its the influence of the right on society.

>>8978901
what does that even mean you stupid fucking idiot lmao

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>>8978924
>who cares who we bombed and what it caused
>who cares if we authorised and armed a brutal invasion
>responsibility don't matter
>facts don't matter
>I just want to whine and troll

>>8978928
More like everybody accepts that the French have idiotic hate speech laws

>>8978850
There's an entire wiki article about Chomsky and Cambodia if you bothered to google. He stated Cambodian accounts of genocidal actions could not be trusted because "they want to tell the critics what they want to hear" essentially, giving him carte Blanche to dismiss any oral testimony that didn't go with his thesis. He has never said he was wrong, he still claims he was right that there was no documentary evidence. He can't handle the embarrassment of admitting wrong

>>8978924
How do we discuss the man if we can't discuss what he talks & writes about?

>>8978924
Still ignoring all the other replies huh :^)

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>>8978938
>we
You mean *I*. As in, "who cares who *I* bombed and what it caused" etc. Your failures aren't mine

>>8978946
Of course, I am the USAF, American government, and compliant American media all rolled into one

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>>8978945
Which reply should I be responding to? The Gish Gallop about how it's okay that Chomsky denied genocide was taking place because what about East Timor dude, or the guy who keeps trying to start an argument with a YouTube video he watched when he was high and had confused this thread with?

>>8978957
Still haven't provided evidence that he denied genocide :^)

>>8978966

The best you can say is that he downplayed it.

>>8978969
Except he didn't downplay it. He based his opinion on the actual evidence of the time, that being the two reports, one of which being from the Finnish Government.

We can play this all night.

>>8978969
The best you could do is provide sources

>>8978957
To even question socially accepted standards is denial to you?
So what if there were photographs faked in Thailand, right? Only a nazi could not see the good cause they served.
So what if the figures in the one book everyone cited were confused and conflated?
What are facts, compared to feelings?
And its just plain rude to mention the American bombing and all it killed
And who else but genocide denying Chomsky would point out that the impolite bombing laid the ground work for what happened next

>>8978974
>Chomsky and Herman dismissed reports by the "mass media" of extensive Khmer Rouge atrocities and instead cited "analyses by highly qualified specialists ... who have concluded that executions [by the Khmer Rouge] have numbered at most in the thousands." They cited the "extreme unreliability of refugee reports."

He dismissed the legitimacy of first hand accounts for the carefully selected expertise of "specialists". He's a hack at best, apologist at worst

>>8978991
Try watching it again, he answers your point :^)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IUU59B6lw

>>8978974
>He based his opinion on the actual evidence of the time
He questioned refugee testimony and said the Western media was engaging in a propaganda campaign against the Khmer Rouge

Face it buddy, Noam gets off to the thought of dead Asian children

>>8978991
>>8979001
I guess the same goes for what Russia and the Syrian Government is going now then huh :^)

>>8979012

What did he mean by this?

>>8978998
>I wasn't wrong, there was no documentary evidence. I was right all along that you cannot trust the emotional madness of refugee testimony over the cold hard logic of expert analysists. Do you even analytics? Sure the genocide happened but there literally NO way we could have known it then

>>8979012
Alpha protip: Repeatedly ending your posts with a smiley face just makes you look even angrier than if you hadn't

:^)

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>>8979023
>even though literally thousands of people did know there was genocide taking place, it was impossible to know genocide was taking place

>>8979020
>I-impossible!! Chomsky can't be wrong! His logic is perfect. ERROR ERROR

>>8979026
>Alpha protip

Reddit

>>8978991
The mass media reports were all citing a translated review of a French priests book, the translated review confused and conflated several different figures and attributed it to the Khmer
Those highly qualified specialists were the US State Department!

>>8979001
>dead Asian children
Why don't you have this same concern for the East Timorese?
Are they some how less worthy?

>>8979001
You don't just accept testimony unequivocally, it has to be studied and quantified

>>8978695
Why does he always mumble? I can't understand anything he's said in the past three decades.

>>8979032
Well just look at the silence over East Timor
That was the whole point of the exercise, to compare the media attention

They even predicted this sort of response, they said the way to shut down debate about this would be to accuse them of denial and ignore Timor

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>>8979158
The what?

If we could get past the disingenuous Cambodian shitposting for a second and discuss the man himself: does he have some form of high functioning autism?
His recall for immense quantities of facts is pretty staggering, for example I read an interview with someone who said they went with him on a trip to Laos in the 70s to visit the Plain of Jars and the guy gave him either a book or state department files on the bombings and the next day Chomsky was quoting whole excerpts from it when interviewing diplomatic personal - he had read and memorised it in one night.

>Genocide going on Cambodia
>Genocide going on East Timor
>we have no influence over Cambodia
>we have influence over East Timor
>lets focus on Cambodia
>and help the genocide in East Timor
>Noam: hey, now, wait a minute, are we completely sure about this Cambodian thing? And what about Timor, don't they matter?
>Noam is an awful person a holocaust denier a pol pot apologist
If you want to first condemn others you must first look at yourself

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>>8979212
>>Genocide going on Cambodia
>>Genocide going on East Timor