Game of thrones a feast for crows
>>8976649
I'd prefer real work stuff, WW1 and 2 would be perfect
>>8976647
All Quiet on the Western Front
Catch-22
WWI poetry
>>8976665
The Things They Carried, or anything by Tim O'brien for that matter.
>>8976668
...I've just realised that I'm not aware of any notable poetry from WWII. Why is that? Is it due to the decline in popularity of poetry as an artform?
>>8976647
>like diaries from the soldiers point of view
Storm of Steel. Pretty sure he doesn't say 'war is hell', though, which arguably is more interesting since people aren't generally fans of war.
>>8976647
The real redpill is when you realize that war is heaven.
>>8976696
WAR.
UNH.
>>8976711
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
>>8976711
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
>>8976680
No, it's coz anglos didn't suffer all that much: http://www.simonov.co.uk/waitforme.htm
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1813340.Platoon?from_search=true
This one, for sure.
>>8976716
BETA POWER FANTASIES!
out of my way you fucking plebeians
>>8976671
Not directly about war, but about it's psychological effects. Worth a read imo
Fear by Gabriel Chevielier (spelling is absolutely wrong). Great WWI story/memoir.
The Red Calvary by Isaac Babel
The White Guard by Bulgakov. These two combined are a great view of both sides of the 1918 bolshevik war.
The Tim o'brien recommendation is good as well.
Journey to the Center of Night by Celine also has some great War stuff, mostly in the first 1/3 though.
>>8976781
Can this be read as my first Zola book, or does it depend on some of his other work? I'd like to get into Zola
>>8976852
>The Red Calvary
Best misspelling of the millenium
Eugene Sledge's With The Old Breed is exactly what you're looking for. Those Japs were fucking brutal.
Otto Dix created the best war art I've ever seen, Wikipedia has most of his work.
>>8977054
This, I read this in High School and it fucked me up for a bit.
One more
>>8977008
The debacle can be read separately, just like all of the others. One of the characters is from The Earth. They are all self contained stories with an overarching theme of atavism.
>>8976647
Farewell to Arms.
Gert Ledig
- The Stalin Front
- Payback
David Jones
-In Parenthesis
Curzio Malaparte
- Kaputt
Celine
-Castle to Castle
- North
Ford Maddox Ford
-Parade's End
Edmund Blunden
-Undertones of War
>>8976647
It was the war of the trenches, by Tardi
>>8976647
Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien
>>8976680
Check out Keith Douglas.
>>8976781
>translation
>>8976711
GOOD GOD, Y'ALL
>>8976647
900 Days Siege of Leningrad
>>8977401
YEA-ABSOLUTELY
>>8976647
Underrated, from the author of War What is Good For.
For whome the bell tolls - Hemingway
If you can read french you should try Les mémoires du sergent Bourgogne, the real story of a french sergent during the russian campaign of napoleon, unbelievable what soldiers can endure
War is actually boring.
Storm of Steel- Juenger
Hell in the Pacific-- McEnery
Red Badge of Courage-- Crane
Iron Coffins
Red Star under the Baltic--Korzh
Penalty Strike-- Pyc'lyn
800 days on the Eastern Front-- Litvin
T-34 in action-- Drabkin
Anti-tank artillery-- drabkin
Through the Maelstrom-- Gorbachevsky (I'm currently reading)
To Hell and Back-- Murphy
Off the top of my head, most of these are within my library of war.
>>8976687
Is this available in English or is it Suomi only?
>>8978137
>Storm of Steel- Juenger
That's not really "war is hell" core
>>8976647
The Unwomanly Face of the War - Svetlana Alexievich
Zinky boys - Sveltana Alexivich
The armies - Evelio Rosero
>>8978099
you mean reading about war is boring. if you were ever dragooned into the military and had fucking artillery fired at you, i am sure you would change your mind in the ten seconds or so before your head was turned into flying gobbets of bloody mush and bone splinters.
war books, okay:
First World War, "Goodbye To All That" by Robert Graves
Vietnam: Dispatches by Michael Herr
Fucking plebs
T.E. Lawrence, Seven Pillars of Wisdom
>>8979488
That's about roughly 1% of war. For the average soldier war is extremely boring.
Johnny got his gun -Dalton Trumbo
>>8980131
top fucking kek
>>8976647
storm of steel, ernst junger
>>8980141
OP says "war is hell" and not just "war"
He did not think that war was hell.
are there many pre-modern "war is hell" esq books /lit/? before ww1 or the american civil war?
basically before war became industrialized
>>8980145
Fair enough. It just seems like such a quintessential "war" book is all
>>8980188
"All Quiet on the Western Front" changed it all for me
>>8978010
Tolstoy didn't participate in the Siege of Sevastopol though.
>>8980182
Before war became industrialized, being a warrior was so fucking cool that nobody cared about "hell". Only sissy boyz of new age think war is "hell"
>>8980182
A Memory of Solferino by Henry Dunant.
>>8980099
This
>>8976647
Matterhorn: A Novel of the Vietnam War
Semi nonfiction about author's experience in Vietnam.
>>8980931
This is not correct at all.
>>8977247
I can't tell if you're memeing or not. Either way OP ignore this guy Farewell to Arms doesn't portray war anywhere near hell. Sure he gets hit by artillery but and is bedridden but that's never portrayed as too bad and the book never dives in to how the incident effected his psyche and a lot of the book is a love story that takes place away from the war
Going After Cacciato by Tim O'brien
I saw that other anons recommended O'brien and Inreally want to echo this sentiment. He does a good job illustrating the boredom of war punctuated by moments of sheer violent terror, which in turn makes the boredom surreal and frightening in its own right because the soldiers are just waiting for death.
The Sorrow of War by Bao Ninh. It's very interesting to read a book about Vietnam from the perspective of the NVA. Interesting to see that even they were disillusioned with the war and ultimately their experiences were very similar to that of the Americans, except that they never get to leave the warzone and go home...the warzone is their home.
https://www.docdroid.net/4j2AWEO/memories-of-the-war-by-nikolai-nikulin.pdf.html