Rereading Stoner for the first time. Some questions have arisen in the process
What is Edith's mental illness? Did Williams write her with a particular mental illness in mind or just "hysteria?"
Are Lomax and Walker gay?
Is the fact that Lomax gets drunk at Stoner's house the real reason he hates him and puts him in a confrontational position?
Also, has anyone else read Augustus or Butcher's Crossing? I really enjoyed Augustus but I like historical fiction like that. Thinking about ordering Butcher's Crossing to finish off his (acknowledged) bibliography.
>>8974207
Women can't understand this book. They're too simple-minded
I'm pretty sure she's just a spoiled cunt.
My opinions:
>bipolar
>no
>yes
>maybe
i was under the impression that walker was lomax's clone and that's why they shared the same traits and deformity and why lomax was so invested in his success
>>8974219
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>8974219
What about this quote from page 172
"Finally Finch said, 'I wonder what it is between him and Walker.' Stoner shook his head. 'It isn't what you're thinking,' he said. 'I don't know what it is. I don't believe I want to know.' "
>>8974212
Go back to /pol/
She was diddled by her father.
>>8974264
Getting bought off makes sense too. No real evidence either way other than that quote from 172 that I can think of.
>>8974207
Edith's clinically depressed, don't know if he had a particular mental illness in
No
Don't think so, Lomax was a nice enough guy until the whole Walker thing.
>>8974218
Ditto.
She probably suffered from post-partum depression or something. The shit really hit the fan after Grace was born.
>>8974301
She had bouts of hysteria followed by extended illness prior to the pregnancy though. That's why I think she was bipolar, though Williams may or not have had that in mind when he wrote the book. I'm not sure when bipolar disorder was identified as a disorder.
>>8974207
Shit book :^)
Seriously though.
>>8974207
>What is Edith's mental illness? Did Williams write her with a particular mental illness in mind or just "hysteria?"
She's just your aveage woman
>Are Lomax and Walker gay?
Yes, with a furry fetish
>Is the fact that Lomax gets drunk at Stoner's house the real reason he hates him and puts him in a confrontational position?
No he is mad that Stoner has a gf and that he can't slam that twink boipucci of his
>>8976096
You should've written Stoner instead.
Edith's just an average woman, they just get really fucking hysterical sometimes
>>8974207
Holy shit.
She was molested by her father throughout her childhood you ignorant, illiterate fucks.
>>8977371
Elaborate pls
>>8976085
You don't deserve to read.
Back to /pol/
>>8977371
headcanon
>>8974219
>>8974225
I don't think he was literally a clone, but Lomax saw himself in Walter, took him as a protege, and wanted Walter to succeed because Lomax wanted himself to succeed
Which would be fine if Walter wasn't just an autistic pseud who, if put into a position of authority, would bring down the standards of the institution
This happens all the time (or so i have been lead to believe)
>>8977371
And she was raped by the oppressive patriarch Stoner who was clearly malevolent and could only view women as objects to satisfy his fragile male ego buzzwords buzzwords gender studies
>>8977371
really? how did i miss this
>>8977371
are you projection this from your own childhood? because I never suspected anything like that when I read it
>>8974207
edith has hysteria, depression, what nowadays is sometimes called neurosis
>>8974207
>Lomax
I think Lomax genuinely thinks he discriminated against the arrogant student for being disabled. Remember that Lomax is disfugured himself so this has likely shaped his world view. We only get one side of the story, but it seems Lomax is relatively normal and yet holds a grudge for 20 years. Also I think Lomax is a representation of the kind of hardships that people face, unrelenting stubborn irrational.
>>8974207
>Rereading Stoner
Mmmm... that sounds comfy. I think I'll do that.
Lomax is the outside world David Masters mentions. He sees himself in Walker, that's why he protects him
>>8979011
http://www.bibliographing.com/2012/08/30/but-bad-as-we-are-were-better-than-those-on-the-outside-in-the-muck-the-poor-bastards-of-the-world/
>>8974230
what he's thinking is that they're gay
the actual relationship is far more perverse
someone post the stoner thread pasta