is this book a meme? or is it an important piece of /lit/erature?

Obviously its important. The question is if its accurate

>>8961257
even the hardest liberals praise Marx and the capital, so yes, its worth it,

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>>8961257
its not /lit/, its the guts of history opening themselves before your eyes

>>8961257
It is mostly incorrect, ie built on falsifiable premises which have been falsified (LTV) but it's a very important work and a must read for every adult. There are also many legitimate ideas

>>8963001
not
an
argument

>>8963074
>not seeing his criticism of marxism from a utilitarian perspective

>>8963081
>marxism
>communism
>marxism-leninism-maoism

Aren't even in the same catagorey of ideas.

>>8962999

It's materialist Hegel.
It's literally Hegel for retarded babies.

>>8963066

when has LTV been """falsified"""?

>>8963094

it's amazing how viciously people lash out against works they neither understand nor are flattered by

>>8962999

correct

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>>8963081
>utilitarianism

>>8963096
The austrians BTFO'd it for good. Wanna see a Marxist's brain explode? Two Words. Knowledge Problem. BOOM!

In the end Marxism is based on slave morality and a completely ridiculous ideal of 'equality'

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>>8962999
Ooh, new Red Pepe

>>8963109

what does the knowledge problem of economic planning have to do with the historical theory of karl marx as expressed, fully developed, in capital?

i don't think slave morality means what you think it means

>>8963102

>hurr durr you just don't understand Marx

Classic Marxist fag. No one understands it but you the special snowflake.

>>8963096
LTV fails to predict prices

>>8963109
>live in an age where information-gathering and communications technology keeps making exponential leaps
>still dust out Hayekshit like it's some sort of silver bullet
Embarrassing.

Marx is mad good at critiquing capitalism. Only agreed with like a 5th or 4th of manifesto tho

>>8963129

okay, but what does that have to do with VALUE? prices and value are not the same thing.

>>8963121

sorry, but if you can't even be bothered to read the prefaces to capital, then you are the one who doesn't understand the relationship between marx and hegel.

Decent critique, but his solutions can fuck off.

>>8963142
Value is subjective, it has nothing to do with labor. Just because you spent 10,000+ hours working on that trangsender basketweaving studies degree doesn't you should get paid. Sorry to break it to you kiddo. That's just how the world works

>>8963175

"Sorry to break it to you, kiddo," but if "transgender basketweaving studies" isn't socially necessary, then it isn't valuable. Social necessity gives rise to forces—value being one of them—which, although they are composed of the actions of individuals, nevertheless exceed them. In this way these forces attain objective reality.

"Value is subjective"—take that to the local pharmacy and see how well haggling for your monster energy drinks works out.

>>8961257
it's so badly written many explain books have been written to clarify it's meaning Marx was a worthless neet.

>>8961257
Yeah, it is such a fucking meme it was one of the main contributors to multiple civil wars in the 20th century.

Just kill yourself stupid faggot OP.

>>8963121
>Classic Marxist fag. No one understands it but you the special snowflake.
kek, every time with these commies. This is their only argument. Yet they don't understand that maybe the system is fucked when every iteration of it is fucked.

>>8961257
It's a great piece of work and pure Hegelian mastery from Marx. Sometimes I wish Marx never wrote the Manifesto because they think that's all they need to read to "get" Marx, when it's clearly Capital.

>>8963154
what solutions are proposed in capital?