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Why are Americans so shit at literature studies?

>Read up university syllabus of English literature degrees
>Postmodernism, postmodernism, and postmodernism
>Feminist theory
>Queer theory
>Asiatic and African comparative literature
>Postcolonialism
>One singular paper on just Shakespeare's tragedies
>Maybe one course on The Canterbury Tales (translated text)
>No mention at all of the metaphysical poets
>Nothing about the other medieval works
>Nothing substantial about Renaissance
>Doesn't even touch upon the Gothic novels
>No mention of the Mystery Plays
>Not even a hint of poesy as a conduit of truth
>Everything is at least modernist or later
>A fucking course on slam poetry and spoken word rubbish

Honestly do you guys even do proper literature?
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>studying English literature
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>>8951382
Oh shit, this is a GOOD thread.
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>>8951382

>Getting a degree in your antiquated hobby
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>>8951420
Why not?
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>>8951434
Most people seem pretty uncertain at 18 to pick a practical degree, and hence just go for shit like degrees in English literature and act like great intellectuals while they scrub urinals at McDonald's.
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>>8951445
Why not not?
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>>8951456
You go to university to acquire an understanding of truth via a perspective/lens that you are most adept with.

If your strength lies in literature, then I don't see why shouldn't you study that at uni.
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>>8951449
>he actually needs to earn a living

University is not for you, pleb.
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>>8951486
Too late m8. Almost finished my pharmaceutical science degree.
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>>8951476

That's all nice but how do you justify all that time and money? (if you're American). If you're an avid reader anyway it just seems redundant. The work/reward ratio just doesn't seem worth it
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>>8951382
The humanities are almost 100% political/ideological, how is this surprising
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>>8951488
>pharmaceutical science degree
Enjoy working as the pharmacy equivalent of a barista.

>>8951490
>justify all that time and money
That you need to justify the expenditure of time and money at all marks you as a middle class man.
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>>8951495
Pharmaceutical scientists work in the pharmaceutical industry, not in pharmacies.
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>>8951495

>He doesn't allocate his resources in a manner to ensure maximum gain

I'd rather be middle class than have a negative net worth at any point in my life
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>Going to university to study English
>speaks English

Positively absurd.
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>>8951449
Because no one fucking explains to you how to choose a practical degree, especially if you're a depressed, shy hikki.
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>>8951382
Because American universities are more interested in teaching you what to think rather than HOW to think for yourself.
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Did you learn about American university coursework from /pol/ or something? I'm not an English major but maybe you want over to read the requirements for an English degree at my school. Please note that of the topics you listed, the only ones which are required for an English BA are the those you claim are completely ignored
http://catalog.wm.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=13&poid=2511
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I'm currently an English and Theology major, and I think you're opinion is shit.

Firstly, University is not something you go to just for a job. If I wanted, I could have gone to a technical university or work under someone to become a welder/plumber/electrician and started my own business. STEM teaches you to be a brainless parasite that is only looking to work under someone.
Unless you go to Bumfuck University, jobs are there if you're not retarded. No job is going to come to you when all you do is jack off and watch anime all day.

Also, not how American English courses work.
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>>8951382
Anyway who doesn't major in computer science or chem or engineering etc. is a fucking moron.

The humanities/liberal arts is a waste of time and money. You'll never get any kind of real job or career.
I mean, are all so retarded you can't even succeed at anything remotely math or science related? That shit isn't even that hard.
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>>8952056
>people have to be drones that are confined to doing shitty calculations for a boss

stop defending your shitty decisions.
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>>8951965
>I'm currently an English major
>you're opinion is shit
>you're

I have no words.
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>>8952056
You have it backwards actually. Dumb people who were too stupid able to attend a top school have no choice but to major in STEAM fields and study something they don't particularly like in order to fund an approximation of their parents' middle class lifestyle. You can typically find them stewing away over at State Tech and other glorified trade schools, praying that in forty years they will have saved enough money to live in the suburbs and occasionally go on a cruise or maybe a football game. It's a sad life for unintelligent people, and they're well-suited for it.

Intelligent, creative, and interesting people, however, are able to make it to elite universities and earn scholarships, allowing them to study whatever they please and find employment in exciting fields that they sincerely enjoy.
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>>8952104
Grammar rules are relics of the modernist straight white male colonialists
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>>8952104
That guy here,
>>8952119
has it right.
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>>8952108
Pretty much this.
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From what I've gathered North-American non-STEM facutlies are overflowing with leftist identity politics ideology. As an European, part of me is hoping that it this resentful and divisive movement will really fuck shit up (which I expect), so that we can point to North-America and know what not to do.
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>>8951382
Honestly I'd rather get a specialised education in the past 40 or so years of literary theory than some broad survey knowledge just of Western lit that can't actually be used for anything.

I also imagine the professors don't want to read the same essay citing the same sources 100x a semester.
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>>8951965
might want to take some remedial Grammar classes bro
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>>8952108
Currently getting paid to study engineering and for some reason I still waste time reading this shit self loathing forum
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>>8952108
Studying lit on a full scholarship. I'm taking on grad courses, interning, and just got a grant for my own undergrad research. I'm even learning programming on the side because I like communicating with machines. Not sure where my path will lead me, but I can't say I regret it.
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>>8951382
ah man, I don't know why this is the way it is, but it sure is
I majored in English (plus phil), and 80% of the department is this stupid bullshit
I'm just tryna read classics senpai
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>>8951490
This. If you really want to be educated in literature read it yourself. Anybody who could have given you good advice is long dead.
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>>8952056
Take the advice of your patron saint and "shut up and calculate" lol
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>>8952108
how would you make as much if not more than a STEM career majoring in english?

You sound like you're trying to justify liberal arts yet make fun of people who choose practical skills.
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>>8951511
>caring about numbers on a computer screen
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>>8954727
it's called not bring poor idiot
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>>8951965
>No job is going to come to you when all you do is jack off and watch anime all day.

/thread, we're done here
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>>8954859
>having money

top pleb
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Why can't I just steal shit from other people
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>mfw struggling to chose between literary studies and linguistics

This thread makes me slightly uncomfortable
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Foreigner here

Cant English Majors work as high school teachers? Do they need another qualification for that? Are there more English majors than High School teacher jobs? why are there so many unemployed, or with retail jobs, or teaching English in Korea?
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>>8955684
You don't need anything more than a general degree to teach, why would you go for a doctorate?

Only people who have utterly failed at everything in life teach anyway.
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>>8955342
If you want a job, go with linguistics
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>>8956103
If you want money, you record youtube videos and create a patreon account.
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>>8956158
That only works if you have a sexy voice. Good looks help too.

You can't get these at a university though.
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>>8956169
You don't need shit m8

Can you dumb down shit you learnt from your bachelors enough that highschoolers can pretend to into humanities? $2k per video for you.
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>>8956180
That would need at least 200k subscribers and a dedicated fan base for patreon shekels. Youtube advertisment money is a shit. The ad revenue dropped a lot in recent years.

And good luck becoming that popular without nice voice or body.
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>>8956202
>Philosophy Tube
>Greasy Tryhard Londoner
>105,207 Subscribers
>Most popular video
>98,071 views
>$2,298 per month

Your really underestimating how much money people throw away to feel smug.
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>>8956212
Okay that's actually impressive.

Only problem is market saturation. Early adopters have already filled up most subjects. Especially those crash course green brother cunts have 5 years worth of ripped off university course scripts.
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>>8956235
I'm kinda talking out of my ass right now, but it would be best to make videos modeled after an AP class. These kids are always looking for more resources to learn topics and the courses are at the college freshman level, so it can't be that hard to get views and learn the topic.

The program has been in place for a long time, but new courses are always popping up. It would deal with the market saturation.

AC/DC Econ is a channel that does this for AP Economics and the man is well off for himself. Just try not I be an autist when making the videos, unless they're math or science related then it's okay since those kids watching are pretty autistic too.
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>>8951382
I'm currently studying English at UNC and that's not true at all, at least in my experience. There certainly are a lot of lenses through which you can study English/Literature here but none of those specific classes are mandatory. In other words, you don't have to learn anything about queer theory or African Literature or whatever if you don't want to. I can link you to the requirements for a bachelor's degree in English if you'd like.

Also reading the classics is the basis of the degree, it isn't exactly a wank. Several mandatory classes of pre-1900 and pre-1800 work, etc.
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Bwahaha I didn't realise there are so many retards on this board. If you aren't doing a STEM subject then you are a waste of space.
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>>8955836
Here in Canada you legally require a B'Ed
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>>8954856
>not believing in the almighty kek
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>>8951523
>practical degree
Any degree is practical. The fact of the job market is that most positions out there only require you to have a degree, and the subject of that degree is irrelevant. Unless you're gong for a job that has a degree specifically tied to it (like engineering), it really doesn't matter what you major in. If you're just going to end up working a normie office job like most people, a degree in literature won't hurt you at all.

If you don't specifically need a subject to work a job, you might as well major in whatever you want. The important things are being realistic about what you can do, networking, and learning how to market yourself.
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>medievalism

Your plen obsessions do not deserve to be gratified by the higher flights of academia. The real crime is the continuing neglect of the literature of the two great Decadences of Western history: that of the Roman Empire, and that of Britain and France as they fell gracefully from the apex of imperialist power in the fin-de-siecle.
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>>8957198
>any degree is practical
false
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