Frankfurt School

Adorno is an elitist. The worst of the Frankfurt school, a hack. Read Walter Benjamin or Erich Fromm, just don't bother with Adorno...

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>>8874100
Not a fan of humanism senpai

I wanted to read this book but maybe I should stop with listening to /pol/ memes

>>8874100
Stop talking shit

>>8874036
D&E is notoriously obtuse, I'm a huge fan of Walter Benjamin and went into it expecting the same sort of ideas Benjamin throws around and the book has been sitting on the shelf for the past 2 years.

And no, weaponizing trannies is not a Frankfurt School thing, /pol/ is N E V E R right

>>8874100
>I don't like this author please don't read him
Oh you must be so wise oh please tell me more wise one

Minima moralia is a muçh different work. It is far more whimsical. It is a collection of thought fragments, rather than a collection of essays circling around the same theme. DE is in the middle as far às Àdorno being methodical goes. Negative Dialectics is more strictly philosophical but is much more difficult than even DE. MM is easy. The Stars Down to Earth is underrated Àdorno. Very accessible and rigorous.

>>8874228
FS may not have advocated weaponizing trannies but they helped usher in the Left's current obsession with identity and disregard for class. Adorno's Authoritarian Personality is a fuck you to the working class and Marcuse's works legitimized the upper-middle class SJW politics that now dominate college campuses.

What are the most accessible Frankfurt school works?

>>8874767
Hahaha. You don't read. You just get your Xbox controller Cheetos cheesy.

>>8874790
Critique of instrumental reason. Hork and Adorno. >>8874100 is right, sadly. Nowadays his elitism must be avoided and disregarded. Anyway is not like >>8874292 said. It is not about not reading him but understanding his biased ideas.

>>8874767 have no idea about what she/he/it is talking and >>8874804 is funny so right.

>>8874756
Sounds like I'll eventually read MM after I finish slogging through DE then.

Thanks anon.

>>8874767
Nah, that'd be Foucault and even then sjwism is based on a poor reading of Foucault.

>>8874845
Fuck no, it is just Hork. So better.

>>8874767
Dude cultural Marxism lmao

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>another thread where /lit/ attempts to detach themselves and their favorite thinkers from SJWs without actually explaining anything

>>8874852
I hope you are not despising SJW work (kek), because it truly delineates your identity and that would be quite ironical, don't you think so?

In any case, there is some misreading of Foucault, as with any other author. Even Butler does so. But the work of queer theory (read here: post-identity) seed his fruits and it is worthwhile. For sure in some points Saint Fuckky would not agree, but which intellectual does with the development of his/her/their theories? Amazing times for epistemology and ontology, though. Quite radical ones, actually.

there is literally no theoretical connection between identity politics and critical theory

>>8874100
all good intellectuals are elitist

>>8874914
I wish Adorno was alive today so I could see just how much he'd sperg out at modern idpol.

>>8874036
The Frankfurt School is pure garbage, /pol/ is right on that but for the wrong reasons

>>8874914
Most of the first generation critical theorists were covertly financed by the OSS/CIA to lay the intellectual framework that would dominate academia, identity politics was largly the intent and consequence

>>8874962
I know that he was not happy about the new left when the 60's rolled around so he I could honestly see him doing that.

>>8875000
>Most of the first generation critical theorists were covertly financed by the OSS/CIA to lay the intellectual framework that would dominate academia, identity politics was largly the intent and consequence
Source?

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>>8875008
>inb4 Infowars and/or any other similar website

>>8874886
Yeah okay there really isn't any practical difference between essentialism and subject position. The difference between structuralism and post-structuralism is a mere matters of semantics

>>8875008

Alex Jones' YouTube channel

>>8875008
Just go to wikipedia, a lot of them worked in the OSS during WWII. A lot of the upper elites from academia/industry were dragged into working for the government during WWII and helped shape the post-WWII CIA culture and propagandist methods.

>>8874804
Nice bants but you didn't refute my point.

>>8874036
Why do all intellectuals rail against modernity, capitalism, society, etc.? Why don't they get a friggin job or somethin?

>>8875000
When I see the type of people who go around blaming everything bad in the world on the Frankfurt School, and think for a minute about where they get their information from, it makes me curious if they're not just horribly misled and if the Frankfurt School were not just a group of dudes (Marxists, to be sure) discussing philosophy n culture n stuff.

>>8874852
You're right about Foucault but FS did indeed usher in the SJW era as well (not that that was necessarily their intention). The FS and Foucault are only nominally Marxist since they did cultural analysis, not political economy like Marx.

>>8874036
>I 'get' the connection they're making in that early human sacrifice to the gods was man's way of manipulating the gods and such acts that try to subordinate nature to the whims of man are to form the kernal of later of enlightenment thought.

Classicist here, they don't know what they're talking about.

Besides, cultures all over the world practice/d human and animal sacrifices without ever having an enlightenment or even progressing beyond the mud hut illiterate stage.

>>8876661
the point is that there wasn't one guy who suddenly had the idea to enlighten everybody but enlightenment itself can take on different forms and has been there forever. it just needs to reflect on its own regressive tendencies to truly lead to a free society

>>8875058
they helped the cia against the nazis

>>8876608
Foucault wasn't a Marxist.