why do people think YA is good?

That's sad. It's his easiest book.

>>8860896
Senpai I read the thing in three hours according to my e-reader and then I see this autistic shit.

Btw Hilarius is top waifu.

I want to kill myself when I realize that anime isn't real.

>>8860904
I would want to kill myself if it were

>>8860864
Suggest me good /lit/ anime.

>>8860976
Neon Genesis

>>8860976
Milky Holmes

>>8860976
there aren't any

>>8860976
ghost in the shell stand alone complex desu

>>8860976
The only Japanese animations worth watching are the works of Miyazaki, Takahata, Oshii, Otomo, Hosoda, Yuasa, Kon and a few independent directors like Kihachiro Kawamoto, Koji Yamamura, Kunio Kato and Atsushi Wada. Everything else is junk

>>8861043
Fukumoto

>>8861057
You mean the Akagi/Kaiji guy? His mangas and their anime adaptations are stupid entertainment but not specifically worth reading/watching

>>8861043
>miyazaki
He is fucking shit.

I know there was a series that weebified some /lit/ books, but i cant seem to find it which is sad.

>>8861155

Aoi Bungaku or do you mean western lit?

>>8861155
pls find it. I've been searching for litime

>>8861158
It's western lit; i know they did Proust, Kant, Marx and Hitler, but it seems the only translations disappeared of the internet some time ago

>>8861097
and yet he's still one of the top 10 anime creators. that should tell you something

>>8861210
yeah just like Stephen King is one of the top10 writers ever because he is popular

>>8860896
I feel like V is less esoteric.

>>8861231
he's actually not though

>>8861238
just like miyazaki is far from top10 anime directors

>>8861043
Anime up until the early 2000s was better than now. The heavy trend toward moe is really too bad.

>>8861097
Why?

>>8861245
not true. i've seen 300+ anime so i'm qualified to judge

>>8861248
Literally LOL'd.

>>8861247
I actually like Hosoda's and Yuasa's work more than pre-21st century anime. Moe is shit, but so is the vast, vast majority of pre-moe anime (as well as non-moe recent anime)

>>8861231
>it's a "DFW thinks his literary theory knowledge directly translates to films" episode

>>8861158
>>8861159
i found a torrent with the translated ones, I could upload the relevant volumes in an hour or so if the thread stays alive.

>>8860976
Psycho pass
It's very simplistic and drops names but it works

>>8860896
That's the point

>>8860976
Shigurui is entry-level /lit/. Obvs CowBop, also Guren Lagann. Not KlaK.
>>8861300
Fucking pleb.

I also forgot Jin-Roh, though I didn't like it very much. It was originally written as a play and would have been better live action.
>>8861313
Get fucked nerd, psycho pass is good entertainment and would get a pass for the op alone.

>>8861300
>>8861313
>>8861326
All of that shit sucks actually, see >>8861043

>>8861326
Jin-Roh FUCKING SUCKS

So much potential and it FUCKING SUCKS
>good entertainment
So not /lit/.

>>8861335
Yeah, Jin-Roh was a fucking letdown. I want a fascist death squad anime set in alternate reality Axis victory Italy

>>8860976
R.O.D read or die is fun, not a 10/10 deep show but you should have fun watching it

>>8861572
That's what I'm talking about. Seems like a great /lit/ anime.

>>8860976
Serial Experiments Lain

>>8860976
I agree with the Lain suggestion.

I've been watching anime since I remember, although I barely watched anime during the last couple of years. I think you will find better anime in movies than tv shows

- Paprika (Inception ripped off this)
- Perfect Blue (Black Swan ripped off this)
- Ghost in the Shell (Matrix ripped off this)
- Millenium Actress
- Kara no Kyoukai Movies

Tsukihime has been so far one of the very few stories about vampires that I really love. You would have to read the visual novel, because the anime is quite bad. I heard the manga is better, but never read it.

>>8861313
>Guren Lagann.
If you want badass robots don't forget GaoGaiGar and Getter Robo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYFYZZtnH-E

>>8861643
There's more to GL than badass robots senpai.

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>>8861647
I know

>>8860976
The Tatami Galaxy

>>8861663
The most pseudish of all anime.

>>8861664
that's madoka

>>8861664
nah

that distinction goes to steins;gate

>>8861664
not even close

>>8861669
>>8861675
don't even deserve the distinction of being called pseud honestly

pseud anime are things like eva, utena, lain

>>8861684
>madoka
>not the most pretentious pile of garbage there is

>>8861687
i agree it's a pile of garbage, but i'm not convinced it manages to be particularly pretentious

>>8861685
>utena
kill uself

>>8861043
How about show names you autistic weeb

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>>8860987
>>8861002
>>8861027
>>8861036
>>8861043
>>8861057
>>8861070

>Literature

Post more /lit/-chan, you ugly fuckers.

>>8861705
Just watch their most famous films, it's easy

>>8861675
Who thinks themselves smarter than the average dude for watching Stein;Gate?

Here is In search of lost time: weeb edition.
https://file.io/yxuCdm

>>8861729
yeah nah

>>8861729
{"success":false,"error":404,"message":"Not Found"}

>>8860976
Gankutsuou is literally /lit/

>>8861732
fuk

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>>8861735
>Gankutsuou's unusual visual style layers Photoshop textures into digital animation, with backgrounds often rendered in 3D.
Sounds...perfect.

>>8861097
>t. Otaku

Trying again i guess
http://www117.zippyshare.com/v/RMG9wuqR/file.html

>>8861750
Wow this is really good anon, def the best I've seen desu

>>8860904
A-Are you telling the truth anon? I'm about to kill myself. You can't possibly prove it can you?

>>8861727
the people who rated it a 10 on mal

>>8861908
Yeah it can't possibly be that they got caught up in the hype or, dare I say it, liked it WITHOUT thinking they were better than others for it.

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>>8860976
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>>8860864
Becuase it makes young people read. As if just reading for the shake of reading is good to you somehow.
Like if I were to read a 800 pages book about the alphabet repeating itself every time it ends then that would make me a better person.

I think people used to associate reading with knowledge and intelligence and they forgot that the important thing is what you read, not that you just read.

>>8861924
More like Legend of the Gay Lactating Homosexuals

>>8861934
t. autist who doesn't "get" people

Literature is like a plateau. Extremely tall, and extremely hard to climb (or so it seems). YA is a ramp for people to climb up the plateau. They read YA and think: "hey, this reading business isn't so bad. And those teachers made it seem so hard!". And then they slip up into literature.

Not all of them do, no. A lot languish there. But those -- I think they actually tried literature, all the same, and then thought it wasn't for them. So even in their case it "succeeded".

>>8862094
you accidentally put your signature at the start of your post, anonymous

>>8862212
What an autist.

>>8862094
t. fagget

No YA reader makes the transition to real literature. Not enough to be actually considered. If they did they would erase all their memories from whence they where filthy YA readers. I could give you a lengthy explanation as to why I'm undoubtedly right but that's no fun so I'll just ask you to watch YA booktubers and see how their librarie is organized not by author, genre or even type of book but by color. Fucking. Color.

>>8862263
Plenty do. Bear in mind by "YA reader" we are talking about the vast bulk of them, i.e., teenagers and children. These do not typically start with the classics.

>>8860864

People are stupid.

>>8860864
Is that a Jojo reference?

>>8860976
Utena is the only /lit/ anime

>>8861685
Naw

>>8861636
Paprika is also an adaptation of the Tsutsui Yasutaka novel of the same name.

He also wrote The Girl who Leapt Through Time, which was also adapted into a great animu movie.

Un-Go is really good, and it's inspired in one of Sakaguchi Ango's untranslated works. It's a modernized, cyberpunk version though, but it's really good regardless.

Sky Crawlers is an adaptation of Hiroshi Mori's novel series of the same name.

But if we're talking Hiroshi Mori, I like Subete ga F ni Naru (S&M series adaptation) way more than Sky Crawlers. Incidentally, both Subete ga F ni Naru and Un-Go aired in the noitaminA block, usually reserved for shows that feel more "artistic" than other animu.

... and there's always Welcome to the NHK, but... I wouldn't really recommend the anime. Manga >>>>> novel > anime.

Oh, also, Zaregoto is a really good novel series, and it's currently being adapted by Shaft. An episode a month though.

You guys are dumb Aoi Bungaku is literally the only /lit/ anime. They even adapted Ningen Shikkaku as a 4 episode arc

>>8860976
Texhnolyze

>>8860976
boku "start with the greeks" no pico

>>8862721
It's shit animu though.

But look at these >>8862699. They're actually good adaptations of well-esteemed japanese literature.

I just remembered Trapeze/Kuuchu Buranko/Irabu's office too, which is based on Okuda Hideo's In The Pool.

But if you want a good omnibus of classic japanese literature, there's always Ayakashi. Although the last tale, the one that spinned-off Mononoge, is an original, the first is an adaptation of the Yutsuya Kaidan classic kabuki play, and the second one adapts Izumi Kyouka's Tenshu Monogatari, which is also a kabuki play.

>>8862808
>boku no pico
>the greeks
More related than you think.

>>8862384
this x 10000

>>8860864
Self-insert super powered protagonist stories are fun

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>>8862263
>No YA reader makes the transition to real literature.
The next time you meet someone in their 20s who reads literature, ask them what got them in to reading and 9/10 times they will say some shit like Harry Potter or Percy Jackson. You're either completely out of touch or just shitposting.

what's /lit/'s opinion on umineko

>>8863207
>>>/s/hit

>>8863207
Amazing desu

Best post-modern mystery out there.

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>>8861707
Evangelion is the most /lit/ anime, though. So many themes!

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>>8860976
Fang of the sun Dougram.
It's the vietnam war but with gundams.

>>8863200
Dubs of truth.

I'm 27 and started reading with HP.

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>>8860976
The 80s Starship Troopers OVA.
One of the more faithful adaptations of the book.

>>8863734
This looks boring tbqh.

>>8862699
>He also wrote The Girl who Leapt Through Time, which was also adapted into a great animu movie.
I think that's the guy that also wrote Summer Wars.
I only looked at the trailer. It reminded me of the Digimon Movie, which he also wrote.

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Anyone here watched Angel Cop? Old fashioned commie slaying is truly literary

>>8861939
homosexuality is the most /lit/ sexuality though

>>8863757
No, no. Tsutsui Yasutaka is a pretty famous novelist. He wrote both Paprika and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. Amongst others. He's really, really good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutsui_Yasutaka

Here, have 4 his books translated, including these two:
mega://#F!51Q0waSI
Key: !4Ut-eePQr9YSjHJJTQs7Ew!BkhXELCC

Paprika was adapted into animu by Satoshi Kon, who was an absolute genius director who also did Perfect Blue, Tokyo Godfathers, Millennium Actress and Paranoia Agent, among others.

The Girl Who Leapt Through Time has been adapted into a bunch of japanese movies and shows over the years, but the animu was an adaptation by Mamoru Hosoda, who had previously directed the Digimon movie, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time has character design by Yoshiyuki Sadamoto (of Evangelion fame). Hosoda then made Summer Wars, with a plot very similar to the Digimon Movie and Sadamoto character design as well. He then went on to make Wolf Children also with Sadamoto, and then The Boy and the Beast with the guy who designed the characters for the Digimon movie.

You're just getting tangled up.

tl;dr:
Tsutsui Yasutaka: Novelist, wrote both The Girl Who Leapt Through Time and Paprika
Satoshi Kon: Anime director, adapted Paprika
Mamoru Hosoda: Anime director, adapted The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. Also directed the Digimon movie and Summer Wars
Yoshiyuki Sadamoto: Character designer. Did both The Girl Who Leapt Through Time and Summer Wars.
Takaaki Yamashita: Mainly animator, but also character designer. Did the character design for the Digimon movie and Hosoda's latest movie too, The Boy and the Beast.

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>mfw Bernard-Jou Iwaku is a meme goldmine

/lit/ just got more interesting

>>8860976
Love Live! School Idol Project

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>>8864088
>tfw only one episode left

>>8860976
Utena is arguably the most /lit/ anime out there. Evangelion is also good.

>>8861313
>Shigurui is entry-level /lit/.
Do you mean the anime or the manga?

>>8861300
Psycho Pass is absolutely shit.

>>8861636
>- Kara no Kyoukai Movies
Absolute shit taste. They're all pretentious shit with good visuals.

>>8861924
>>8861735
Good taste and choice.

>>8862699
>He also wrote The Girl who Leapt Through Time, which was also adapted into a great animu movie.
No it's not. Anyone who says that The Girl who Leaped Through Time is a great movie is a fucking idiot.

>>8864990
>Do you mean the anime or the manga?
Manga. Never watched the anime, but understood it was pretty close to the manga.

>>8864994
>Never watched the anime, but understood it was pretty close to the manga.
It's very close. I would argue that the anime is one of the best adaptation of all time but that's for another topic.
The manga is pretty good on its own.

>>8861326
>would get a pass for the op alone.
DUDE THE OP IS SO RAD BRUH IT'S SO /LIT/
I bet you'd say a book is good for the cover art alone.

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>>8860976
Aoi Bungaku

>>8865071
It's just alright honestly. Not really worth watching past then first story.

Ghost in the Shell 2's themes are influenced by Locus Solus by Raymond Roussel and Future Eve by Auguste Villiers de l'Isle-Adam. Oshii is a big into french lit. He also named one of the charactes Dr Haraway after Donna Haraway

>Other numerous quotations in the film come from Buddha, Confucius, Descartes, the Old Testament, Meiji-era critic Saitō Ryokuu, Richard Dawkins, Max Weber, Jacob Grimm, Plato, John Milton, 14th century playwright Zeami Motokiyo, the Tridentine Mass, and Julien Offray de La Mettrie, French Enlightenment philosopher and author of "Man a Machine".

The gynoid characters are conceptually basd on Hans Bellmer's ball jointed dolls.

Is he dare I say it: Our /guyu/?

>>8860976
https://myanimelist.net/animelist/memepolice?status=7&order=4&order2=0

>>8865144
>here and then now and there
>9
>NGE ranked higher than EoE

The rest seems fine.

>>8865149
>here and then now and there
it resonated for me
>NGE ranked higher than EoE
more content, same reason why Space Brothers is an 8

>>8865155
>it resonated for me
>suffering for the sake of suffering resonates with me
>what if we make a subversion of the 'character goes to an alternative fantasy universe' and just make it shit without any substance?
All the characters are shit, not just shit because they're bad people, but badly written. Nothing is interesting nor engaging and no one acts humane in any way. The only people who like this shit are those who enjoy suffering for the sake of suffering and because THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS LIKE IN AFRICAAAAA.

But that's just me. I have a vapid hatred for that show.

>more content
That's debatable but to each their own.

>>8865168
>Nothing is interesting nor engaging and no one acts humane in any way.
the characters were relatable and realistic to me
>The only people who like this shit are those who enjoy suffering for the sake of suffering and because THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS LIKE IN AFRICAAAAA.
it's exactly what happened in the past and i didn't really care about the suffering
>That's debatable
how is it debatable

a 26 episode series has more content in it than a 90 minute movie about the same story, the quality of EoE isn't even significantly better than the good episodes of NGE

>>8864990
>Absolute shit taste. They're all pretentious shit
That's what people usually say of /lit/. It applies the same principle: this pretentious shit happpens to be good.

You just happen to be an edgy teenager.

>>8860976
Vagabond, the mango

>>8860976
Urusei Yatsura & Maison Ikkoku

>>8860976

Code Geass desu

>>8863200
I work at a book store. Every single one of my coworkers exclusively reads YA. I have never had a customer buy a book worth reading. About 50% of the books people buy are YA, 30% are whatever shitty new release just came out, and the other 20% is stuff from the bargain section.

>>8861237
During the Benny chapters perhaps.
The Egypt chapter already is much more esoteric than anything in CoL49.

>>8860864
what anime is that from?

>>8864992
this

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>>8865992
Miss Bernard Said. They're 3 minutes a pop and pretty clever

>>8865155
The ending to Now and Then, Here and There was bullshit. Reality isn't quite as convenient as that.

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>>8860976

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>>8860976
Flowers of Evil? No one, really? It's about a kid who thinks he's better than everyone because he reads, how is that not the most /lit/ anime.

(also, reading Flowers of Evil beforehand really supplements this show)

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>>8860976
>tfw I derailed the entire thread with 5 words.

Who knew /lit/ was filled with so many degenerate anime fans

Bad tastes.

>>8867289
What are you talking about desssuuuuuuu?

>>8867289
Yeah, almost as if it's a board on 4chan.

>>8867262
>normalfag guide to anime
seriously, who even watches and enjoys madoka?

>>8863281
That "crust punk" thread is hot!

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>what I expected: people talking shit about ya novels and why plebs like to read shit
>what I got: people who couldn't get out of /a/

>>8860976
Steins;Gate

>>8867269
This anime will fuck you up internally.
The manga fucks it up tho. It starts as a messed up pseud boy who gets even more messed up by a kinki girl and ends being a ya so beautiful love story.

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>>8861043
Completely ignoring Ikuhara and Toei magical girl shows in general

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>>8860976
And not a single mention of WMT occurred that day.

>>8860976
Berserk

>>8868592
this

>>8867758
weebs were a mistake

>>8860864
Because the people who think it's good are the target audience. "Young adults" aka, teens. It's like asking why toddlers like Sesame Street.

Jesus, people. Why is everyone so bent out of shape about YA. Don't fucking read it. No one is forcing you, and what's more, it's not made for you. So why do you hate it and obsess about it so much.

4chan really is this autistic isn't it.

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>>8867758
>what I expected: yet another circlejerk about something no /lit/ user cares about
>what I got: a 4chan thread
everything went much better than expected

>>8860976
Pluto for a /lit/ manga.

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Valvrape the Penetrator is truly /lit/ so many themes and messages hidden without, truely a master pance

>>8871470
Best girl

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>>8871477
she is a angel

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>>8871493

This is the best /lit/ thread in the whole catalog

>>8860976
Wasn't there a chart for artsy anime or something?

>>8861285
Did he?

>>8871066
>best ever
>separated thread what's that?

>>8860976
black bullet
black cat
gosick

>>8861687
>>8861664
it's called utena

>>8867127
it resonated for me tho