Is detective fiction a literary genre, or are there works in

>>8838366
>literary genre
Are you confused? "Genre" refers to science fiction, fantasy and, yes, mysteries and detective stories. "Literary" fiction is the classics, the cannon, and stuff like Murakami that's not explicitly genre.

The thing is, all good novelists are writing mysteries.

Hammet's pulp but he's solid. Better than Lovecraft or REH. At least in terms of story.

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>>8838366
Nightmare Town is really good, and so is a lot of Raymond Chandler

I personally thought that Raymond Chandler's The Long Goodbye was brilliant; depicting fascinating characters, alcoholism etc. however, I hate to be that guy, but I do think that the lit/pulp distinction is fairly arbitrary: art is full of examples of people using "low" genres for their own purposes- just look at the Romantics' use of love ballads.

>>8838366
Ulysses is in an essential sense, a detective story so yes

>>8839202
>pointing out nuance and warning us of the folly of gross generalizations

leave

>>8838366
There are no genres, only talents.

>>8839270
actually, if you look closely, you'll notice that there are also genres

>>8838366
>>8838402

literary genre can also mean book genre tho but don't do that because it's confusing. also who are these good novelists? Pynch Me is writing mysteries as of late.

>>8839202
Get of here you reasonable piece of shit

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>>8838366
The Last Good Kiss by James Crumley counts as /lit/

Also, I think Ross MacDonald's books are pretty fucking great, and some of them at least come pretty close to lit, especially The Chill and The Instant Enemy

>>8838810
Nightmare Town is indeed really good. I have the Dell mapback edition, and it's one of my prized possessions.