why don't I like plato? where am i supposed to even start?

>>8825253
Well, he isn't right about a lot, so it gets tedious reading
Move on to Epicurus

>>8825697
plen detected

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>>8825253
The works are usually grouped into Early (sometimes by some into Transitional), Middle, and Late period.[84][85] This choice to group chronologically is thought worthy of criticism by some (Cooper et al),[86] given that it's recognised that there is no absolute agreement as to the true chronologicity, since the facts of the temporal order of writing are not confidently ascertained.[87]
Early: Apology (of Socrates), Charmides, Crito, Euthyphro, Gorgias, (Lesser) Hippias (minor), (Greater) Hippias (major), Ion, Laches, Lysis, Protagoras
Middle/Transitional: Cratylus, Euthydemus, Meno, Parmenides, Phaedo, Phaedrus, Republic, Symposium,
Middle/Late: Theaetetus
Late: Critias, Sophist, Statesman / Politicus, Timaeus , Philebus, Laws
Chronologicity was not a consideration in ancient times, in that grouping of this nature are virtually absent (Tarrant) in the extant writings of ancient Platonists

>>8825253

Kill yourself

It's okay, Plato is hot garbage anyway.

>>8825253
Read Plato's works in the order Thrasyllus put them in.

>>8825697
Good Lord man. Why would you recommend Epicurus to someone after deriding Plato for being incorrect?
Move on to Epictetus

>>8825742
Flan detected

>>8826077
Because Epicurus was the rightest of all the Greeks.
Epictetus was nice too. A little stoic, not too plugged into the real world and the right way to live, but not bad.

>>8825825
>D'arcy
>Swoons

>>8825253

Skip Plato,go to Descartes.

>>8826085
Epictetus didn't detail what one should do in their life, but how they should do what it is they do. For example, the mindset, motivations, and character one should approach everything with. He was a man who saw material possessions and externals for exactly what they were, useless. Take that as you may, but he is essential reading regardless of one's path in life.