Redpill me on the kindle /lit/, is it worth it? Can I put books

>>8802684
>is it worth it?

No.

Get a Kobo so you don't have to deal with Amazon's DRM bullshit.

>>8802684
>Redpill me

Kill you'are'selve

If you use Calibre to convert epubs then it's like any other ebook reader, except that the backlight is quite useful

So yeah, download epubs, convert, done

PDFs are garbage on all ebook readers as PDFs are 'frozen' in formatting. Converting them often leads to a mess as the converter has to basically guess what's going where.

>>8802687
So I can't put books I download on to a kindle?

Can I buy books from the kindle store and put them on a kobo?

>>8802698
Kindles don't support EPUB. They need to be converted to Amazon's proprietary AZW format via Calibre or other third-party software.

And no.

>>8802722
>Kindles don't support EPUB. They need to be converted to Amazon's proprietary AZW format via Calibre or other third-party software.

Does the conversion work well? I'll mainly be downloading books from IRC, but I'd like to buy ones I can't find. The kobo store doesn't have some of the books I've looked for, which I can't find online.

Is the kindle really that bad?

>>8802741
Yes, epub to azw3/mobi is a perfect conversion by Calibre you literally will not perceive any difference. It's hardly even a bother when you'll be using Calibre to manage your ebook collection anyway.

get a kobo you faggot

>>8802722

Mobi format works as well. And if you're downloading books it isn't hard to find that format anyways.

>>8802684
This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

>>8803061
literally name 1(ONE) benefit to getting a kobo

>>8802693
>>8802684

This.

Kindle paper white + calibre on your PC is the best set up. Never had issues.

>>8803287
>>8802684


PS. Calibre automatically converts to us able format when syncing and takes about 2 seconds to do.

>>8802687
THIS
H
I
S

>>8803095
from comparing Kobo Glo HD to Kindle Paperwhite
>more accurate/brighter white color
>light can actually be turned all the way off when reading
>supports more formats natively
>no Amazon ads and retarded bullshit
>more fonts/reading customization options

if you plan to go full normie and buy all of your books from an e-store then yes the kindle is better. in every other way the kobo is better

what are some good fonts for e-readers? i tried bookerly but it's too indistinct on my low contrast kindle 4.

>ereaders
Worth it if you like dick in the butt

>>8802684
>Redpill me

>>8804212
>basic 4chan lingo triggers him
>in 4chan of all places

>>8804380
its gay lingo what it is

>>8802684
don't buy it and don't post here ever again

>>8802684

The redpill on kindles is they're a pointless product being pushed on you as a solution to a problem you never had to begin with. Just read PDFs on your laptop or phone, you don't need (((e-ink))).

>>8802684
Buy a Kobo or a Nook. Either can easily handle sideloading books.

>>8804440
Which would you most recommend?

>>8802684
Not literature, shitposting fag

>>8804429
>Just read PDFs on your laptop or phone, you don't need (((e-ink))).
this is one of the worst things I've ever read

if anything sell your laptop and buy an ereader

>>8802741
It converts fine.

No reason to choose a kobo over a kindle, and no reason to choose a kindle over a kobo. Just get what's cheaper.
>>8802687
>le if it's a big company it must be worse

>>8804928
>>le if it's a big company it must be worse
yes. Unironically yes.

Amazon is far more invasive of your device, and ethics aside it has practical implications. The amazon store cannot be ignored on the device, there are advertisements on your home screen, and Amazon has the ability to detect and wipe content from your device without your consent

I just bought a Kindle Oasis, after years of protesting it because >muh physical cobbies

It was one of the best decisions I ever made. Reading is easier than ever, and I can constantly have a multitude of books with me, and the backlight just makes it extremely easy to read in all conditions. No more fumbling around with thick ass books trying to catch the right angle.

Do it faggot.

>>8805107
this

most important things are
>having a good frontlight (backlight is disengenuous; ereaders lights project on top of the screen, not from behind it like an LCD)
>having high PPI (250 or higher)

most high end Kobos or Kindles have 300 PPI and great lights

>>8805107
>Oasis
Most pointless product of all time.

>>8805200
I liked the Voyage, but the balance and physical buttons of the Oasis are top tier.

>>8805216
balance?

>>8805223
>he doesn't know

>>8802684

Yes, it is worth it.

#bookz on the undernet is a good place to download books

File: kw-feature-ergonomic-design._CB276425393_.jpg (37KB, 700x418px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 700x418px

>>8805223
The tapered edge balances the device towards the side you grab it with. Makes it the best ereader for one handed reading.

This is especially important in America, so you can eat your cheeseburger and sip your Super Big Gulp with one hand, and read Harry Potter in the other.

>>8805978
>>8805470
Send my regards to the whole Amazon marketing team.

I inherited a Gen3 Kindle with the keyboard a while back and love it, it's pretty much exactly like reading a book. Though the battery isn't what it used to be now, 2-3 novels a week and it gets down to around 25% charge, so I've been thinking of getting a Paperwhite to replace it (since they apparently don't sell a cover for the newer Kindles that has a LED light in it and the Oasis is too expensive), how's the responsiveness for the touchscreen versions?

>>8805978
Can you actually flip the screen around this time? Or do they just really hate lefties?

>>8802684
>tfw you can't concentrate when reading off a screen

give me expensive books that take up lots of space, family

>>8803349

Can you really not deactivate the light of the kindle? Does that mean its battery life is shit?

>>8806621
You really can't, but luckily your battery life is still fucking huge.

In any case, you'll pretty much never want it off all the way anyway. The differences between kobo and kindle are utterly negligible, as is the case with most ereaders.

>>8802684
I have a Paperwhite. It's bretty good. Better for shorter, more casual reads I find though. As many might expect, there is a lack of the feeling of progress when using an e-reader. Seeing your percent read isn't as engaging as holding a book and feeling the weight shift, but I guess that's just psychosomatic bullshit.

File: Collector.png (990KB, 1439x900px) Image search: [Google]

990KB, 1439x900px

Unless you're a caveman, you WILL be using calibre to manage your ebooks so epub compatibility is a non-issue. E-readers are a worthwhile investment regardless of brand. Watch some video reviews then get whichever you find prettiest because that's literally all the difference there is.

>>8806755
Not sure if things have changed, but whenever I converted epubs to mobi for use on my kindle the formatting was always royally fucked.

>>8806788
It has never happened to me, it's quite possible that they fixed it. The calibre project has been an ongoing project for 10 years with almost weekly updates. I have much respect for the people behind it.

Do you travel a lot?
If so, and you don't mind throwing around a couple hundred, for a good case and some ebooks, it's worth it. You can get the books on your phone, but if you don't have the new ones which are notebook sized it's not worth it.

When I don't it just sits around

>>8802684
I have owned two kindles. The lack of physical buttons on the new model irks me. I stepped on my first kindle and it stopped working, this is never an issue with paper books. Kindle is nice because books are free, and I can carry thousands of them, also I can read the bible in public without attracting loonies.
Paper will always be better though.

>>8806755
hey mate I have this on my other computer, I downloaded a huge rar with tons of books can you hit me up with a download link senpai?

>>8806755
>>8806788
Calibre is shit. Just install Total Commander and use file directories like a pro. It's also quite bad at converting books with forced conversions, it is always reducing cover sizes, often fucking up formatting, fucking up embedded fonts, doing other annoyances, and on top is absolutely pathetic as previewer. For epub to mobi just use Kindle Previewer. It may still fuck up from time to time, but overall it does a lot better job.

>>8806938
>Calibre is shit.

no it's not

>>8806621
>>8803349

Uhm. What? You can entirely turn off the backlight of Kindle Paperwhite.

>>8806956
It is when you know what it does behind the scenes. All in all it's nothing but plugins thrown together. Each of them barely doing it's job. It's not efficient and truly does stupid things with your disk space.

Third party tools are the way to go if you're at least slightly proficient with computers. SumatraPDF for previewing PDF/EPUB. Kindle Previewer for mobi conversions. Adobe Digital Editions for As for the bookshelf, just use file structure and your own simple library system.

>>8805027
https://www.eff.org/pages/reader-privacy-chart-2012

literally untrue

>>8802684
soulseek, libgen, mobilism, torrent and your local library overdrive are better than the bookz irc

>>8806788
pdf conversion is truly awful, otherwise azw3-epub is lossless

>>8806895
you want calibre or the collector's cover files? I can zip them up if you want the latter, the former you can just google calibre and it's the first thing that pops up.

>>8807069
yea im not talking about the program though, I meant a huge rar with thousands of books for my library

>>8807032
>soulseek

Hold on, you can soulseek books? Fuck me I've only used soulseek for illbegotten music all this time.

>>8807095
Yeah the selection is pretty on par with any of the other pirate sites. Its particularly good for foreign fiction.

>>8807032
not knowing about clockwise3rldkgu.onion, hihihihi

>>8807103
Every time I use TOR my internet slows to a crawl.

>>8807079
Alright, I've uploaded the Discworld cover pics here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/3qcnvv
(The last ten or so are missing because the artist hasn't drawn them yet).
You'll have to select all the books you want to edit (hold control) then click 'Edit metadata' on the top right.

>>8807105
That's because it's behind couple of proxies and relays, silly.

>>8806631
>In any case, you'll pretty much never want it off all the way anyway.
Reading outside in the summer (even in the shade) requires no light. I do a lot of reading that way.

>>8806755
>you WILL be using calibre to manage your ebooks
Why the fuck would you need to "manage" your ebooks? Just put them in a folder on your PC.

File: sorted.png (162KB, 1261x804px) Image search: [Google]

162KB, 1261x804px

>>8807188
You can do that but then you'd have to shift through your whole collection if you ever wanted a particular book and unless you rename each book you download, you're gonna have a bad time. Nevermind having them sorted by author, publish date or genre.
Calibre does exactly that and you can still access all the books without using it. It's just far superior to using windows folder and explorer in every way.

>>8807213
Yeah, renaming files and folders is really hard.

>>8807222
If you want to spend an a few hours playing intern simulator 2016, go ahead. The rest of us are using tools like civilized people.

>>8807228
>intern simulator 2016

Very popular in Germany right now, I've heard.

>>8807032
https://www.wired.com/2012/10/amazons-remote-wipe-of-customers-kindle-highlights-perils-of-drm/

>>8806448
Built in accelerometer. When you turn it, it automatically turns, along with the button mapping.

>>8806621
You can turn the light off.

>>8806884
Oasis has physical buttons.

>>8807317
>https://www.wired.com/2012/10/amazons-remote-wipe-of-customers-kindle-highlights-perils-of-drm/

>2012
That's the oldest scarestory on the internets. One swedish women, after that no other reports whatsoever. But I'm quite certain that they have a way of seeing what you've got on your Kindle if you connect to wireless. I mistakenly wiped my dictionaries off my Kindle while transferring books and went to support thinking something was wrong. Their Indian technician immediately knew that they weren't present on my kindle. Do know that they can get all kinds of info from you just by having wireless on.

>>8809432
>Oasis

You can't be seriously advising people on buying Oasis? It's got exactly the same bloody screen as Voyage, same software. Only difference is three or four led lights more for when you use backlight, and a dumb cover thing. If you've the bucks to spare, always get Voyage, or better jet get a larger than 6" eink reader. 200$ is seriously overpriced for that screen size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjr0FerVciM

I recently bought an old kindle for 22$ on amazon, in great condition, pirated a bunch of books I would have otherwise needed to read on my computer/look for in the library/buy, and am reading them without straining my eyes like I would on a computer. I thought it was worth it.

>>8802687
can i install linux on it?

I have a paper white and I love it. Even read infinite jest on it.

>>8809571
Oh, yeah. And that cover thing has the same exact function as any regular portable charger that you can get for 20$. Eink's need very little electricity, so you can even quickly charge them with handheld usb dinamos. Making them virtually independent of electricity.

File: pepe h20.png (356KB, 592x800px) Image search: [Google]

356KB, 592x800px

This is a Kobo board.

>>8809655
Besides water protection, what differentiates it from the Aura?

>>8809571
>But I'm quite certain that they have a way of seeing what you've got on your Kindle if you connect to wireless
yeah fuck that nonsense

Has anyone invented a decent color e-reader yet? If not, I had an idea of how to do it, using the principles of photography instead of e-ink or pixels.

Instead of using 3-5 different types of eink on a screen, you could use three or four transparent colored screens layered on top of each other, each with their own e-ink.

So instead of the ink being coloured, the screen itself is colored- the physical object- it's the same way technicolor was made using 3 film strips in the 1930s.

>>8809706
Aura ONE
>7.8” HD Carta E Ink touchscreen, 1872 x 1404 resolution 300 dpi
>Waterproof
>$229

Aura H20
>6.8” Carta E Ink HD touchscreen with high, 1430 x 1080 resolution, 265 dpi
>Waterproof
>$179

Kobo Glo HD
>6” HD Carta E Ink touchscreen, 1448 x 1072 resolution 300 pixels per inch
>not waterproof
>$129
this is the actually best Kobo reader for the price, and one of the best ever made. For some fucking reason it's not in stock though. It's so they can jew people into buying the piece of shit I'm about to list next

Kobo Aura (2016)
>" Carta E Ink touchscreen, 1024 x 768 resolution 212 ppi
>not waterproof
>$119 (on sale for $99)

then there's this gigantic hunk of shit

Kobo Touch 2.0
>6″ E-Ink Pearl, 800x600
>no backlight
>not waterproof
>$89

>>8809748
>it's the same way technicolor was made using 3 film strips in the 1930s.
that's really fucking cool actually

idk if it'd work well though. there'd be too much depth between the top and bottom screen

File: technicolor_registrations (1).png (56KB, 350x333px) Image search: [Google]

56KB, 350x333px

>>8809748
Pic related is what I mean. It's sort of like CMYK printing except using the light spectrum instead of the additive.

>>8809753
It was able to be done in the 1930s with regular celluloid, I bet it'd be way easier now and would register beautifully. It'd be great for comic books, photography displays, magazines...

>>8809762
>>8809774
it would require back light though, in order for the colors to blend properly

>>8809779
Why? A red transparent film on top of a green on top of a blue would make black with no light- but an e-ink white pixel, depending on the layer, would just the colors that aren't whited out.

So if you needed to make yellow, you'd white out blue, and leave green and red. The front light would let you see it- just like a physically yellow object.

>>8803349
>Kobo
except I can get a kindle for like $20

>>8809797
Seriously? Where to cop senpai

>>8809797
>>8809798
you mean an old kindle

if you want to get a poorfag ereader yeah old kindles are good

but if you want to experience to actually be better than reading physical books you have to put out

>>8809801
Fuck that, I have a shit-ton of regular books, I'll buy an old kindle for $20. I'm sick of reading on my iphone 4.

>>8809805
I got by on a $30 nook for a while. It's definitely worth it just for free books and to break the habit of phone/tablet reading. enjoy

>>8809807
yeah, I pirate all my shit anyway using bookz and I just email epubs to myself and download them using my mail app on my shitty phone.

>>8809750
>Kobo Aura (2016)

Eh, it seems good for the price.

>>8809571
I love my Oasis. Much better in the hand. It's stupid overpriced though.

The Voyage is fantastic too, though.

>>8810079
it's not

it's low PPI. Every single other Ereader sold for $100 before it had a high PPI display. The fucking Kobo Glo HD has a $10 higher msrp, rendering the entire device useless

they literally downgraded the Glo HD in every way (screen, materials) and are selling it for marginally the same price

Anyone here has the Aura ONE? Is it worth it for the price?

>>8810178
So the next best option is the Kobo Aura H20?

>>8810681
no, I'd say kobo glo HD from ebay

>redpill me
Just end yourself, kiddo

>>8802722
mobi is just as common as epub

and yes, you can remove DRM and put it anywhere you want

fucking shill

Get a Paperwhite. Anything more, you're getting ripped off (Voyage and Oasis have nearly 0 benefits despite being significantly more). Anything less, you're not getting any type of lighting so you can read in the dark.

I just download everything in mobi and send to my kindle by mail. In the rare case I have to convert to mobi with Calibre, but really it's no issue at all. It's only bad when trying to find obscure books, these ones I have to buy in physical form

What are some good places to get ebook covers for calibre?

If I do the automatic metadata download it gives me Wordsworth tier shit.

>>8809750
I got a Kobo touch for 35$ and I'm very happy with it.
I don't need it to be waterproof or have a backlight because books usually don't glow and don't handle water well.

>>8811147
Best way I've found so far is to scour google images for a good cover. Also make sure to add goodreads on your search sources.

>>8811170
play.google.com/store/books will usually get you the highest quality covers.

Open a cover of a book there as image. And just add couple of zeros to the end web address.

For example:
https://books.google.com/books/content/images/frontcover/cgGWDEOFlDEC?fife=w300

https://books.google.com/books/content/images/frontcover/cgGWDEOFlDEC?fife=w30000

>>8810178
bs, they're still really great readers, resolution really isn't as important as people think. My old kindle four, when compared to high resolution screens, still performs better than any lcd, and only marginally worse than my 1200x600 einker.

File: 1463616955028.jpg (6KB, 240x240px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 240x240px

>>8811316
Neat.

>>8810188
I have it. It's definitely worth it, but I'm not poor so take that as you will.