There is nothing good about this life. It has been seen since

You don't need a book. You just need to grow up.

Everything you've written is practically cliché, at this point.

I remember when I was 17

the bible

>>8793313
>>8793321
>>8793336

This

>>8793308

fight club desu

If nothing else, take refuge in the fact that virtually everyone you know, including your parents and your teachers, have gone through this phase, and one day you'll look back at what you've written here and cringe on it.

>>8793308
this banana im eating is good actually

>>8793308
The Last Messiah might interest you.

>>8793308
I feel you are feel.

Read Schopenhauer's Studies in Pessimism.
Read Benatar's Better Never to have Been
Read Ligotti's Conspriracy Against the Human Race
Read Becker's The Denial of Death
Read Zapffe's The Last Messiah
Read Cioran's The Trouble with Being Born

>>8793313
>>8793321
>>8793357
>truth is cliche thereford disregard truth

numale scum

I read the first line and I understood where you were coming from.

I read the rest of your post and I realised you were 14.

>>8796558

Truth is never obtainable

you need to stop smoking weed, OP

>>8797468

2+2=5, amirite?

>There is nothing good about this life.
nascar, boiled peanuts, titties, tight jeans

>God is a nothing.
what the fuck dude

>sublimation
this don't mean nothin

>I loathe my life
man what a wuss

>Everything past childhood is wading through shit.
lol does little babby wanna still shit his diapers and shake his rattle omg

read the fuckin bible boy you sound like a god damn queer

>>8797498

2+2=4 is only true in the mind a human

>>8797538
Fuck off. Math is an objective truth.

>>8797538

I won't argue with you, but you did just admit that it's true, which is supposedly unobtainable... but we just obtained it in two posts.

>>8793308
you're hopelessly pretentious. get laid and read some dostoyevsky and becker. jesus christ

>>8798091
Not Op
I love dosto but what Becker are you talking about. Google does not tell me much

>>8798242
I guessing he mispelled Samuel Beckett

>>8797542
Only after accepting axioms which cannot be proven.

read song of myself by whitman, it's very affirmative

A child said What is the grass? fetching it to me with full hands;
How could I answer the child? I do not know what it is any
more than he.

I guess it must be the flag of my disposition, out of hopeful green
stuff woven.

Or I guess it is the handkerchief of the Lord,
A scented gift and remembrancer designedly dropt,
Bearing the owner's name someway in the corners, that we may
see and remark, and say Whose?

Or I guess the grass is itself a child, the produced babe of the
vegetation.

Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic,
And it means, Sprouting alike in broad zones and narrow zones,
Growing among black folks as among white,
Kanuck, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I
receive them the same.

And now it seems to me the beautiful uncut hair of graves.

get so drunk you can't walk and jump of a bridge. here you go, a solution that will solve your life crisis.

hahah edgy teen am I right?

>>8798326
what do you mean by this? There are many proofs based on the simple addition and subtraction of numbers, which you can prove simply by picking two items in one hand, one item in the other, putting all the items in one hand and seeing that 1+2=3

>>8798440
>Relying on reality for mathematical proofs

Here's your axiom

>>8798443
reliance on "unprovable axioms" has never been wrong, and it also lead to every piece of technology we have.sth got us to send people to the moon. That's true enough for me.

>>8798513
We were discussing philosophy, not common sense
nice shifting of goalposts though

>>8798513
Yes my dear teenage redditor, but that doesn't mean mathematics is an objective truth. It's very reliant on essentially faith in these axioms. It's not as if there's only one math, there are more systems depending on the axioms you pick. Getting someone to the moon doesn't prove it, it just justifies your faith in it, for you.
>>8798521
Exactly.

>>8798530
Give me an example of two different "maths" that are true but also in conflict with one another, my mature adult 4chan friend.

>>8798530
>getting to the moon doesn't prove math is right, they just happened to make it there by random chance

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>>8793308
>>8796558
OP's feels confirmed as truth

We all wading through shit now son

We Steve Jobs now son

>>8798242
>>8798264
Probably Ernest Becker.

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>>8793308
Since we're all about cliches here, I'd say you need to get laid and not worry about books so much, young man. Find a nice girl, spend more time having sex outside and exploring the world.

>>8798557
Just because Newtons gravity can predict the motion of planets with some accuracy doesn't mean that it's how the universe works
I'm sorry but it seems you need to go back to school

>>8798539
axiom of choice vs. axiom of determinacy

>>8798628
That's exactly what it means.

>>8798629
Those aren't mathematical systems.

>>8798640
umm no, actually the general theory of relativity is more accurate
Newton's theory is entirely based in that we live in an Euclidean space, how naive

Do you get the point? Or are you retarded?

>>8798645
Are you daft on purpose? You create mathematical systems by choosing a set of axioms as a fundament and work onwards from there.

Some "facts" are not possible in a given mathematical system given the choice of axioms, an example being the Banach-Tarski paradox which is not provable without the axiom of choice. Still you can create a mathematical system without the axiom of choice, and it would not be less "true".

>>8798648
The fact that our understanding of physics has refined over thousands of years does not prove math is wrong senpai

>>8798694
It also doesn't prove math is right, which was your argument from the start. Sorry

>>8798694
Being based in an axiom doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means it's not some God given super objective skience teenage atheists jerk off to.
Just about every philosophy is based on such axioms, it's just important to recognize how the premises shape the conclusions.

>>8796554
Sprinkle it with some Beckett, Crawford, Brassier, Gray and Houellebecq.

>>8798607
Not OP, but I'm poor as fuck (barely above the point of hunger) and live in a place where someone is murdered or raped every other day. Don't tell me sex is something that matters that much.

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>>8793313
>You just need to grow up.

Born - Childhood - Youth - Work, Buy a house, get married, have children - Grow old - Die.

There's more than this material world.

>>8793308
nagarjuna

>>8793313
He already has. Now he just needs to find ways/things.

>>8793308
Seriously, The Mysterious Stranger by Mark Twain

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>>8799088
Not OP, but that looks like a good little book. Thanks for the rec. I guess the final manuscript is the one to read?

>>8799546
It was never finished but yes.
It's not that great.

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>>8793308

Don't ever attempt to post something like that again.

Read On Suicide by Schopenhauer

https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/s/schopenhauer/arthur/pessimism/chapter3.html

Ending your life is a foolish act because you do nothing to the thing-in-itself, I'd recommend looking into Buddhism so you free yourself from the cycle of reincarnation. If you are sincere about destroying the demiurge join some Gnostic groups.

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>>8793308
If you'd actually understood the book of Job you'd know how dumb it is to vindicate those emotions.

>>8798326
it being correct according to those axioms is true.

>>8799032
Then move. You have a computer and an internet connection, I'm sure you can figure something out. Besides, the meaning and importance of sex and relationships is contingent: don't judge it all by drunken teens or whatever.

>>8800118
Fine, it just pisses me off when those blokes living in first world countries and upper middle class conditions tell me or other miserable people to just 'cheer up' or 'go outside' or whatever, as if the material and objective conditions of my city or country are irrelevant and I can just live in my fantasy world like they do.

>>8799736
>Gnostic groups

Agreed on suicide, whatever is on the other side is no better than this. No groups nearby for gnostics... any recommended books or media? I dig Buddhism, but I haven't been able to get over boredom and restlessness.

>>8800721
Wew lad. I'm trying not to masturbate today.

>>8798645
you are either very dumb or very young

>>8793313
>hurr durr cliches are wrong

2+2=4 is a cliche but that doesn't invalidate its truth value. OP is 100% correct, sorry senpai. Maturity is not a quality worth living up to anyway. Yeah, let's pretend we are accomplishing something by organizing ourselves into convoluted systems of codependence.

>>8797538
fuck off derridan relativist scum

>>8798607
>get laid

This isn't /soc/ /adv/ /r9k/ /b/ /pol/ /mu/ /tv/ etc...

Nobody needs to be posting trite dismissive faggotry like this here.

>>8800118
the only thing sex ever accomplishes is the prliferation of more need and disutility. Even for someone who isn't an antinatalist one can clearly see that much of the iniquity in the world is borne purely out of sexual impulse.

>>8800721
when did OP claim he was a philosopher? I think this is a textbook case of projection. Your cultist views were challenged and now your knees are going off like firecrackers

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Reminder that if you don't believe in the divine and literal truth of the HOLY BIBLE you look like this.

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>>8793308
I have always felt this way also OP. I am trying to convert to Catholicism because most saints really hated this world too. The book Preparation for Death: Considerations on Death, Judgment, Heaven and Hell by St. Alphonsus Liguori is pretty good. Christians and misanthropic pessimistic nihilists make sense to me. "Happy" atheists are in complete delusion or indifference. Even Knee-che eschewed this hell hole in his actual life.

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I would also recommend works by St. Alphonsus Liguori. You may also enjoy On the Heights of Despair by E.M. Cioran if you'd prefer something more nihilistic yet still spiritual. it is lyrical and depressing but at the same time life-affirming in the sense that it reads as unfiltered and deeply relatable. you will get through this, O.P. you are stronger than you know. life is pain, but it is a blessing. i will keep you in my thoughts and prayers :)

>>8800896
....HAAAAHAHAHA

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

>>8800975
Do you have a date for the Snow Ball yet, anon?

>>8798417
god whitman is such a faggot

>>8798607
boyfriend/girlfriends, while nice, don't solve all problems.