/lit/ BTFO

>>8791953
>43% of Ameripoops are reading a book right now
Doubt it. I doubt that even 43% of Ameripoops are literate.

>>8791953
Odds of that Hipster twat actually having read it?

>>8791953
>they actually believe that socrates existed

Had to pause the video

>>8791953
>more people are reading now than in the 50s
yeah, the difference is that in 50s they were reading ts elliot, james joyce, emily dickinson and now they're reading jk rowling, stephanie meyer and e.l james

>>8792392
Most of the people always read shit books (10 cent westerns and romances and so on)

>>8791953

Adam Ruins Everything is trite unfunny garbage.

The internet and all general technological advances have been nothing but harmful.

>>8792545
>The internet and all general technological advances have been nothing but harmful.
Every claim needs evidence, my friend.

>>8792566

The Industrial Society and Its Future

>>8792566
the fact that this >>8791953
exists

>>8791953
>more americans read now than in the 50s
There is more shit to read now. I'm sure there was shit 50 years ago, but just statistically speaking you were more likely to be reading a decent author if you were reading at all.

>according to Socrates
Maybe if this faggot pseud had ever actually read anything instead of cherrypicking lines from a "quotes about books" google search, he would at least be vaguely enough aware of the "Socratic problem" of parsing Socrates' actual ideas from the words ascribed to him by Plato, that maybe he would have had the decency to not quote "Socrates."

Ironically the guy in the video countered his own point. Millenials are exposed to a greater volume of information, but understand less.

Strawman: The series

>>8791953
>the internet connects people more than before
yeah, because human connection is staring a LED screen

>50% of americans read books
Whats the criteria for such polling? Opened a book once in a lifetime - counts as a book reader?

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>>8791953
>when books were invented

>>8792369
20%

>>8791953
That more people are reading is exactly the problem. Commoners are polluting it.

>>8792566
Whatever you say, anti-Trump cuck.

>>8794413
as demonstrated by /lit/

>>8792369
literally zero

>>8791972
come to NYC, everyone reads here it's great.

>>8794415
He's against Trump being a cuck?

>>8794514
Lived there for 4 years, think I'll pass.

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>>8792569
>actually believing in green anarchy
Teddy was right about the feminists, but that's it.

>>8794412
>>8794513
I thought as much

>>8792545
I hate it because he gives off this smug look while parroting information found on Wikipedia

>>8791953
im so glad im not this retarded

heinously depressing

I bet 43% of Americans can't even dunk a ball.

>we weren't better people
I'd like a bunch of these rimmed-glasses wearing cucks dropped in post-plague medieval Europe, or Great Depression period for a week or two.
Socrates was right btw, studies literally had shown that Internet by large made society forgetful and dumber

>>8791953
>both nu males
they eviscerated their own point by existing

>>8794514
>there are americans living in nyc

>>8794930
this

>>8792369
odds of DC Pierson writer for Derrick comedy and writer of crap kingdom and the boy who couldnt sleep and never had to reading pretentious post ironic brain farts of a special needs child trapped in the body of a mentally ill man

>112%

>>8795885
anyone from now who can't create a new empire by being dropped into one of those two times is either inept, lazy, stupid, or all of the above.

No hyperbole if I woke up in an english speaking environment in the past I would be listed in history akin to Paul Atreides or even god king Leto the second.

>when books were invented
>16th century

TIL :)

I'm tired of these scripted strawman who step in, say something, then stand idly by as the guy who wrote the script "refutes" them for 5 minutes.

It's just really shoddy.

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>>8797880
Interestingly enough the author is always correct and flawless.

>>8794404
It was pulled from this
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/04/the-next-time-someone-says-the-internet-killed-reading-books-show-them-this-chart/255572/

>>8797880
Not sure if this is also a clever Socrates joke, but if it is then 10/10

>>8794404
>>8798016
so the criterion is literally "lied about reading a book"

>>8798050
the Atlantic publishes so many terrible articles, it's really a bummer

Could someone link that short film where the /lit/ guy goes for a haircut and the hairdresser insults him for reading Ulysses in public?

Even better if you could link the thread about it in the archive (this was 3-4 years ago).

>>8798102
>the /lit/ guy

Are you talking about the guy who threw Blood Meridian in the trash and started all of the McCarthy memes? If so, I would also be interested.

>>8791972
I doubt there even are 43% of americans

>>8798102
That's called Nietzsche 1 or something, I remember he has a footie shirt on with that written across the back.

>>8798102
Also the hairdresser doesn't insult for reading Ulysses, it's for pretending to be an expert on Ulysses and assuming she hasn't read it.

>>8797946
I like that comic

>>8791953
Oh my god, no. He's fucking defending interaction on the internet being better than personal communication. I'm all for progress, but that point is bullshit.

>>8798887
The examples of actual communication are shit:
Keeping your college network sort of working
Doing work
Cyber bullying

No real talking to someone at all.

>>8797845
>dune references
#cringe

>>8798893
My dude, if it weren't for 4chan I wouldn't talk to anyone at all.

>>8799249
You are part of the problem.

>>8798893
>No real talking to someone at all.

These are the sort of drones that don't realize what real talking even is

how do meme vids like this one end up on here?

are you all rediditors? dont lie please

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>Citing Platonic dialogues as evidence of Socrates' opinion.
>Referring to important figures only to prove them wrong instead of doing away all together with ad verecundiam.

>>8791953
>quote great thinkers from history
>but have them say it in a silly voice to show how stupid they were
thank good for these brilliant trutv faggots to set the record straight

>>8791953

>Adam Ruins Everything

seriously, why is this guy allowed to have show?

>>8791953
Socrates was right tho.

Anyone remember that funny video of a guy in a library talking for really long when someone asks him a question?

it was posted here before and it was funny

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>>8794036
>Maybe if this faggot pseud had ever actually read anything instead of cherrypicking lines from a "quotes about books" google search, he would at least be vaguely enough aware of the "Socratic problem" of parsing Socrates' actual ideas from the words ascribed to him by Plato, that maybe he would have had the decency to not quote "Socrates."

>>8798492
underrated post

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>>8791953
>when books were invented

had to unembed the video

Television is the second worst thing after the internet

>>8800077
That's like Ancient Greek philosophy 101 bro.

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>>8798102
I have it, but i want someone to call everyone in this thread (including themselves) a psued before i post it.

>>8791953
Socrates was right. It took literal millennia for us to realize what he was trying to teach us.

>>8800098
I already have it and you are singularly a pseud.

>>8800073
does no one remember it?

>>8800106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTqZuMK0e4g

>>8800091
That's what I mean, everyone already knows it. It's understood that when you quote Socrates you are really quoting Plato quoting Socrates, but explaining that in the context of a TV show would be a waste of time and it's pretty autistic to make a fuss about.

>>8800122
>you are really quoting Plato quoting Socrates
The point is no you are not.

>>8800112
uhh what

>>8800088
Books are the third worst thing.

>>8800130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCIgUSNzSKU

>>8791953
thought the video was stupid, but the replies here are much worse

>>8800127
Nigga you know what I mean.

>>8800122
Yeah but the irony is pretty crucial. They took a quote from an author, an author very much dedicated to the written word, saying that the written word is degenerate. It's like when Theroux or Kant tells you to think for yourself.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aOimuG3LJ3o

>>8792369
prolly 100%.
even picking it up is a pleb test

>>8797845
This is a subtle and funny bait.

>>8791953
At first I was worried about modernity, but then I watched this two minute youtube video of some millennial dudes in a coffee shop telling me that I was wrong, and now I have been shown the error of my ways

>>8792369
He's an actor you retard.

Except he is exactly right.

People complain about the culture of today when every inch of their lives are ravelled in that culture, as evidenced by the people in this thread who have thrown ad hominem attacks via a post on an image-forum.

The fact is, the people who call for a return to the past have no concept of the past, their entire lives are wrapped in modernity.

Go ahead and refute my point.

>>8798102
this?
https://youtu.be/aOimuG3LJ3o

>>8801310
Implying you can escape culture.

Manifestations of culture is all we are or will ever be.

>>8791953
tfw im the guy cyber bullying a child

>>8791972
>ameripoop
You must be 18 or older to post here, lil yuro fella.

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>>8800910
>tfw no qt irish hairdresser to eviscerate me and talk about exegeses of ulysses with

>>8800122
> everyone already knows it. It's understood

This seems so obvious to most of us that it is almost inconceivable to think otherwise. But there are plenty of people (I'd bet on the guys in the video being among them) who do not know this distinction. I've met people who asked me if I "read Socrates" before moving to Plato.

Also
>when you quote Socrates you are really quoting Plato quoting Socrates
There is no simple answer to the Socratic problem, and any answer reached for Plato's early texts will not hold true for his later ones.

>>8801558
dude thats all of us
to be fair as children we were cyberbullying adults

>>8801569
its probably a huehuehue or a pajeet

>>8800088
nice digits, heh, boob

>>8792369
i have better odds of gettin dubs
checkum

>>8797845
>not wanting to just kick it as a medieval peasant or get by as a moonshine bootlegger

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>>8798028
>mfw i just got it
kek