If all the philosophers who ever lived had a debate, who'd win?

>>8767505
Hegel

>>8767505
diogenes

>>8767505
Sam Harris

>>8767505
What are they debating about and who's judging?

Stirner, not even meeming.

>>8767505
Stefan Molyneux

>>8767505
Thales.
Nobody can possibly be prepared for this underdogs argumentation style.

Socrates obviously

>>8767505
the obvious answer here is Berkeley because hes the only one who actually exists but I think Wittgenstein would do pretty well too.

PHILOSOPHY IS NOT ABOUT BEING MORE RIGHT THAN YOUR PREDECESSORS

GODDAMNIT

THIS IS NOT A DICK MEASURING CONTEST

>>8767540
>implying philosophy is about being right at all
>implying its not intellectual will to power
>implying its not a dick measuring contest
stay dreaming last man.

>>8767505
Do they have all the knowledge cumulative up until this point?
Because if so, Plato. The dude was a genius. What he did with the cumulative state of philosophy at that point was something that will never be seen again.

>>8767505
David Hume, the based fat cherub.

>>8767572
except he stole all his ideas from paramenides and pythagoras. Also, how the fuck do you know what the "state of philosophy" was at that point? most-all the works are lost.

>>8767511
Fpbp

>win
Philosophers are all close-minded snobbish fucks.
Did a single philosopher ever come out and say
>You know, I see it now, I was wrong

>>8767574
Hume got outdated by Kant. Everyone knows that.

>>8767581
>stole all of his ideas
good meme
And they aren't exactly 'lost'. We know what the individual philosophers thought. I have nothing against "dude everything is water lmao" since he's not got much to work off of. But comparatively Plato has spawned an entire wing of philosophical thought that has existed until now. I.E. Idealism.

>>8767585
yeah actually A lot of them. Kant, Descartes, Wittgenstein

>>8767590
thats Thales you fucking dilletante scum not Paramanides

>>8767598
Yes, I'm aware, I was just making a point.
Paramanides was slightly more advanced, but still boiled down to "dude atoms lmao".
Plato more or less invented the disciplines of epistemology and metaphysics.

>>8767590
also
>IMPLYING PLATO SPAWNED IDEALISM
get out of here.

>>8767591
>You know, I see it now, I was wrong
>Wittgenstein

Yeah but he just said that to himself

>>8767598
>>8767603

Parmenides was "dude nothing is changing or moving lmao"

>>8767610
He wasn't wrong

File: 1406725200190.gif (1MB, 200x150px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 200x150px

>>8767604
>implying he didn't

>>8767613
Was too. Heraclitus was right.

>>8767514
Diogenes would outmeme everyone else.

The others would take it seriously, Diogenes would pull a dildo out of his anus and slap Hume across the face it with, then go on to mimic everyone else's arguments in a baby voice.

>>8767615
u know nothing. go back to school friend. Read anaxagoras, pythagoras or paramanides, or Heraclitus or even the hindus.

>>8767586
>muh induction
Kant was wrong you dingus.

>>8767637
Hume literally said nothing substantial you dingus all he said was

>lmao guys what if like everything is wrong lol emotions amirite??? Miracles stink ~!! xD gods not REAL. enlightenment intensifies

Kant at least was able to sort out hume's autism into a coherent metaphysical system.

>>8767648
>lmao guys what if like everything is wrong
Hume argues that truth exists but that experimental data (statistics) does not lead to truth only probability.

>coherent metaphysical system.
One that is not based on reason just assumptions. Kant is not right, he is more sophist than Socrates.

Phil Anselmo.

>>8767672
Ofcourse its not BASED on reason. his book is called critique of pure reason. He got that from Hume.

It constructs the empiricists' consequence of subjective idealism through reason. Through knowledge a priori and synthetic reasoning.

>>8767704
>synthetic reasoning
Pure ideology.
>a priori knowledge
Misunderstanding an inductive argument does not make it a priori knowledge.

Me.

File: IMG_0134.png (203KB, 271x361px) Image search: [Google]

203KB, 271x361px

>>8767725
Leave Tommy to me.

>>8767692
Ayy

>>8767722
still better than hume

>>8767505
But who would win in a fight? Plato?

>>8767838
Socrates was a hoplite and probably way more built than half these neckbeard fedora men and sissy romanitc manlets so I'd say socrates

No one.

They'd probably banter about the superiority of their own philosophy, before doing someone pulls out alcohol or something and then they all have some drunk writting contest or someshit.

>>8767851
He also had retard strength and ugly man rage.

W I T T G E N S T E I N

File: socrates ripped.png (47KB, 1854x280px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 1854x280px

>>8767838

Diogenes

File: stirner totem.png (625KB, 1200x1826px) Image search: [Google]

625KB, 1200x1826px

>>8767525
Correct.

>>8767529
>Socrates obviously
>there are delicious things in the world
>humans have tongues that are capable of tasting delicious things
>therefore God

>>8767525
>frail cigar smoking, schoolgirl teaching bitchboy
>winning anything
Nietzsche wins against the Western philosophers, Plato destroys every other philosopher from Antiquity.
It ends as a fight between the rival brothers. Both die.

>>8767527
is this bait? You started with the presocratics and stopped?

>>8767519
This, Harris is the only trained martial arts experts among the great philosophers.

me desu

>>8767624
This made me laugh, thanks anon lol

>>8768167
lol, Xenophon and Socrates fought in wars as hoplites, Plato was notoiously broad and a good wrestler, they would tear this guy apart

>>8768218
>Xenophon and Socrates fought in wars as hoplites
The phalanx was the laziest formation in history. The real power of the Greeks was the Navy.

>Plato was notoiously broad and a good wrestler
They also had a garbage diet. A large Greek was a manlet compared to Harris.

File: 1423454546.jpg (433KB, 945x1130px) Image search: [Google]

433KB, 945x1130px

>>8768167
>implying

Plato would rip his boipussy apart

>>8767505

John Boyd

>>8768231
yeah but who re upholstered plato's boipussy? thats right socrates.

Hint: if the person you posted ITT was born less than fifty years ago, they are utterly irrelevant

>>8768218
Plato was around 5'2", no taller than a Hebrew of the same period. Plato may have been a wrestler but him came from one of the richest families in Greece, his opponents likely let him win to win his family's favor.
Even if Plato was a good wrestler, Sam Harris is a BJJ expert, a fighting style that specializes in grappling techniques. It wouldn't even be a fair fight, Plato would submit within seconds.
Socrates, with his ignoble birth and military experience, would prove to be a far greater match for Sam Harris.

The porch monkey, Stefan Molyneux.

>>8768267
t. Sam Harris - "but also, we do not know what the gods of neurological determination would have in store, for what if during the match, a particular bird of my subconscious delight were to fly past my peripheral and make a sing or squawk, it might be that my unconscious genes would be determined in that moment to look toward the heavens, allowing but for a brief, my opponent to besiege me, also, aren't I something of a manlet myself?"

>>8767586
Kant's attack on Hume was just a bunch of hand-waving and wishing really hard.

File: sam harris giant.jpg (33KB, 654x328px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 654x328px

>>8768267
Holyshit

>>8767514
this. or jesus

Protip: If your post includes the name of someone who's work you were introduced to by a "Teacher", you are objectively wrong and somewhere between one hundred and one million years behind the bleeding edge.

Translation: Your expensive education isn't worth a fucking thing, because you are not capable of independent critical thinking or research.

>>8768496
kek are you one of the /pol/tards who seen that reddit picture?

I refuse to debate. Debate me on that.

Who'd win?

>>8768499

I have no idea wtf you are talking about.

>>8768500

We both win.

>>8768500
Your opponent automatically wins without saying anything because you've already contradicted yourself.

>>8768500
the existence of a debate presupposes mutual participation. If there is no participation there is no debate and there is no winner for a debate that didn't take place.

>>8768503
Oh never mind, I just presumed so because of how sensitive you are

>>8767938
is this true? Especially the part of the athenian rowers being better than olympic ones we have now?

>>8768560
If it is its based on claims of their feats which are almost certainly bullshit

>>8767938
>ywn be brutally pounded in the ass by socrates while he picks apart presumptions in your arguments

Why live desu

>>8768132
kekked

File: 14344823_1855478988029924_7509872759214770950_n.png (336KB, 615x694px) Image search: [Google]

336KB, 615x694px

>>8767505
The debate would evolve into a harmony of dialectic the likes of which the world has never seen, because there is only one truth and all the best philosophers have known this.

Which is a fancy way of saying Hegel will finally give his boipussy up to Plato senpai

File: 1476377928619.jpg (364KB, 960x960px) Image search: [Google]

364KB, 960x960px

>>8768783
>because there is only one truth and all the best philosophers have known this.

>>8768798
t. someone who hasn't even read Plato

Leibniz, because God already pre-arranged it for him to win

>>8767511
He and aristotle would be the two more btfo

>>8768807
keep projecting faggotron

Plato didn't even agree with himself later in his life, considering the Parmenides and the Sophist both are both at odds with themselves and his earlier works

File: nietzsche.jpg (60KB, 850x400px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 850x400px

Nietzsche, obviously.

>>8767505
Statistically, some rando that was never published

>>8767519
this
sam harris is amazing at never allowing himself to be wrong in his own detached head.

>>8768834
>daddy issues slut is best girl
Nietzsche you're a fucking fag

>>8767525
This desu

>>8768135
>implying neechee wouldn't rage-quit like a bitch mid-way

Wittgenstein.

He'd bring a poker and stab everyone after telling them to shut up.

>>8767505
Spinoza

>>8767735
This

>>8767535
Berkeley is not a solipsist and therefore your joke is bad

Iamblichus

>>8767514
Imagine diogenes vs zizek

>>8768135
>Plato destroys every other philosopher from Antiquity
t. Aristotle

Trump

>>8767526
I like looking at him and listening to his voice and eloquence I don't even care what he's talking about

File: molly.jpg (47KB, 1159x736px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 1159x736px

>>8767526
this

>>8770282
He's not even eloquent. He rambles and goes on tangents and often talks fast.

>>8770287
>>8770322
sorry, I didn't know the bald guy, and thought that you meant this guy:
https://youtu.be/Wq9XltdITQY
because he responded to Varg's video as if it was directed at him and is also a stefan

>>8770344
he's not a stefan, dunno why I read styx as stefan, sorry I don't know what's happening to me

>>8767586
Kant didn't even read Treatise lul

>>8767629
many of the presocratics were materialists though but you're right

>>8767505
socrates would out-autism everyone else

Not one person even asked what they were debating

The Sophists.

>>8767725
Feser, pls

>>8770755
Philosophy.

Me

>>8767514
This is the only true answer.

Derrida

Every time someone replies he accuses them of not interpreting him correctly.