Subversiveness is creepy. Are there any genuinely "subversive"

>>8765413
all leftists

>>8765413
Houllebeque very consciously aims towards this tradition

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>>8765413
pic related is pretty subversive

Antonin Artaud
Allen Ginsberg

>>8765413
give us your definition of subversiveness, please.

>>8765413
Maybe Victor Serge?

>>8765480
It's creepy.

>>8765512
that's a terrible definition

>>8765715
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>>8765413
Fight Club

everyone's subversive today, so no one's subversive

you could be shocking to a 19th century audience, in 2016 the shocking is mundane

>>8765512
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>>8765814
i think its good

>>8765906
In 2016, the shocking is gently peddled as acceptable.

>>8765413
Peter Sotos

>>8765413
Fanny Hill was pretty subversive, it's pretty fun to read if you can put yourself in an 18th century mindset.

>>8765906
I can agree with this.
If the modern day Galileo came along and hypothesized a new, better model for how we observe at all that is, he would likely go through life without much recognition, aside from other "mad-men", right?

Of course, existing industry and establishment though Galileo was mad too.

Such is the pattern of human insecurity.

I like Burroughs.

>>8766210
Think about this the next time you see someone call Nick Land "crazy" or "a meme".

>>8766210

>piss everyone off

>keep being vocal

>make more enemies

>get put in a nice villa

>keep making people mad

ya galileo was a real nice guy.

>>8766321
Can you share some of his ideas/writings?

>>8766330
>realize an entire society was wrong about something
>spoke up to show people we don't run shit and never will
>dwarfed their egos with rationality

Why does that make him a bad guy?

>>8766333
http://www.ccru.net/swarm1/1_melt.htm

>>8766342
It's funny, I've thought about the basic idea of alot of what he writes.

I'm not sure I could articulate it as effectively as he does, but I do find this interesting.