Ernst Jünger

>>8660734
summarize them?

>>8660922
Any insight is appreciated. I'm writing an essay.

>>8660922
I misunderstood your reply. I'm having a hard time putting it into words and I'll definitely misrepresent them but here are some quotes from wikipedia anyway:
>"Jünger rejects the liberal values of liberty, security, ease, and comfort, and seeks instead the measure of man in the capacity to withstand pain and sacrifice."
>"In Storm of Steel, he portrayed war as a mystical experience that revealed the nature of existence."
Even though he has a very positive view on war, he still acknowledges the horrors of it.

>>8661181
So he's basically a nazi version of the judge? Well then, yes, I agree with it all.

>>8661181
Yes I see, I browsed wiki and saw some of his views now.

I think he is silly/crazy for romanticizing war, after the war/s(?) he was in, he lived a long influential life, I read that he wrote over 50 books, and was a botonist and zoologist, and poet, so to celebrate something that could have so easily killed him, as it did to the many around him, is quite foolish, would he really have given up all his potential life after the wars, for the thrill of war?

I guess its different now adays because paintball exists.

I think war only exists in the minds of madmen and it is up to sane men to hope and work toward it staying there, unfortunately it is possible at any given time there may be quite high number of the former.

If people want to have war, a massive stadium or island should be reserved for those who want to have their mystical experience.

I mean the world wars were crazy, that they occurred, all wars really, massive brawl,

I understand the potential intrigue, the gamble, the competition, the thrill, the contest, the purpose and meaning, the excitement, but I do not think there is any good reason, any person, should be compelled to go to war, in this day and age, in which so much can be seen so clearly, in which so much sense exists and can be made, etc.

>>8661221
Did you really just write a longass post about your views on an author that you only know from wikipedia?

I dont think Junger himself agreed with his early views on war. He wrote Storm of Steel when he looked like OP pic, and died in 1998.

In the meantime he wrote:
The Glass Bees, where he mourns the loss of brotherhood and glamour of battle, but at the same time understands that those glories didnt really exist, and that men grow older and mature and are rarely excepting himself at the worlds worst job interview exposed to life and death situations that generate the glorious view of brothers in arms.

The Marble Cliffs, where he realizes that the piece and security of living in nature and traditional faith are somewhat better than glorious war, and absolutely better than the mechanisms of the state in the person of the absolutist 20th century autocrat and the horrors he imposes on peace and serenity.

Eumswil, where he self inserts himself as a veteran who no longer defines himself by conflict but by an inner search for his own identity while drinking

Junger matured as a writer and as a human being, while remaining a traditionalist, he also became immensely jaded.

>>8661221
you sound like a fag

>>8661337
Made me want to read more of his works, thanks anon!

One of the few writers, and indeed people, who was honest and courageous enough to admit that war is more than Hell. Some of his views are definitely reminiscent of ol' Nietzsche's. Some of the latter's views:

>The beginnings of everything great on earth [are] soaked in blood thoroughly and for a long time.

>“One must learn from war … one must learn to sacrifice many and to take one’s cause seriously enough not to spare men.”

> “I welcome all signs that a more virile, warlike age is about to begin, which will restore honor to courage above all. For this age shall prepare the way for one yet higher, and it shall gather the strength that this higher age will require one day—the age that will carry heroism into the search for knowledge and that will wage wars for the sake of ideas and their consequences.”

>>8661363
And you sound very intelligent

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>>8661221
>what is suspension of judgement
How about actually reading his work before writing an essay about your half-baked moral outrage.

>>8661243
yes
welcome to /lit/

This pretty much sums up Jüngers views, except he didn't view it as a tragedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBI1Hplnghs

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>>8661181
I think the rejection of liberty, security, ease, and comfort have more to do with his being from a heavily militaristic society. However, it wasn't an unpopular view that war was seen as a good thing. Plenty of other people really did believe the same thing as Junger: that war, with all of its sacrifice and pain forged the best men. Mostly though, I think Junger appreciated the camaraderie and bonds that could be created by soldiers who were going through the war together. And at least at that point in his life, he probably viewed the liberty, freedom, and those ideals as being incompatible with the militarism and soldierly lifestyle that was needed to create those bonds.

If anything, I'd say that much of Storm of Steel's focus is on how well the German soldiers were able to maintain that sense of brotherhood and common purpose in spite of the situation they found themselves in.

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>>8661221
>in this day and age
>it's 2016 guithz

One day, if you have any convictions about who you are, you will have to fight for the survival of yourself and your people.

>>8661211
He was a critic of National Socialism

>>8661221
Yes anon, you know much more about war, than someone who actually fought in a war.

>you will never have that coat

WHERE

TO

COP

>>8663234
Unless you live in Alaska during peak winter you'll look chestslobber tier autistic

>>8663250

he talks /fa/ lingo in caps like it's cool he's already an autist