Ender's Game Series

I haven't read it, I know it's garbage, adding to that it's genre fiction.

But if you want to read it don't be a dumbass and go with the publication order

>>8593163
you should read the first 1 and then stop. first one is a good look at isolation, book 2 is mormon pilgrimage, book 3 and onward is about wishing shit into reality (so yeah they get progressively worse)

>>8593464
Speaker for the Dead is an absolutely wonderful book, I cannot recommend it highly enough.

The chapter with Jane is one of my favorite chapters ever of anything.

>>8593550
Yes, it's indeed wonderful. Finished it with tears in my eyes. It really baffles me how Card can write so much about tolerance and acceptance and be a homophobe.

Have you read the following books? Thought of starting Xenocide sometime.

Ender's Shadow was also great in its own way, but dropped the Bean quartet in the start of Shadow Puppets.

>>8594034
Sweet, osc hates fags ? Nice

Read Speaker for the Dead after, it is the best book in the series. Then if you have to continue, continue down the speaker route.

>>8593163
I read speaker for the dead first actually, not a bad way to go about it
but I guess read enders game and then choose the shadow series or continue with the main series
shadow series is more like enders game while the main one gets into harder sci-fi and philosophy

>>8593464
Better yet, read the novella version from Unaccompanied Sonata

>>8594214
He used to, but he's American and America loves fags now so he loves them too.

>>8594034
>it baffles me how anyone can actually love sinners while hating sin
>it baffles me that anyone can separate the individual from their behavior
>it baffles me how anyone can write so much about tolerance and acceptance and not see a desire for anal sex as the foundation of another's personality

>>8595409
>It baffles me that people think their sexuality is important enough to be more than a simple trait

>>8595430
It is far more, after all, most homosexuals makes it his duty to make it his defining trait.
And the others are so full of complexes that are the result of homosexuality or the other way around it cannot be reduced to just a trait.

>>8596167
no? if by 'defining trait' you mean you're confronted with it it's because the 'average gay' can't even hold his bf's hand in public without risking physical harm and guaranteeing at the very least verbal abuse?
Venture outside your own asshole every so often.

>>8596167
The worst thing about stupid people is that they never realise how limited their perspectives are.

>>8593324
>I haven't read it but I'm gonna parrot some other pretentious twat's opinion
Imbecile. Please die, we really don't need more pieces of shit like you.

>>8593163
If you have read Ender's Game, you should NOT be missing any reference in SftD. You can't read.

>>8596280
>no? if by 'defining trait' you mean you're confronted with it it's because the 'average gay' can't even hold his bf's hand in public without risking physical harm and guaranteeing at the very least verbal abuse?
Where? Saudi Arabia? Serbia? They are open about it and no one "verbally abuses" them. Berlin is the mother fucking gay capital of the world. And they are protected by all kinds of 'hate speech' laws and they essentially control all the media. It's a taboo to speak against them.
>Venture outside your own asshole every so often.
Stop venturing into other people's assholes.
>>8596285
Are you saying I'm wrong? Because that's how most homosexuals are.

>>8596299
We know it's you, Orson, stop shitting up the thread

>>8593163
enders game = harry potter in space