>Virginia Woolf is a more effective writer than James Joyce

>implying

>>8580258
Try reading either first

>>8580258
Do your own homework sweetie, you can play on the internets later.

effective*

*only when this word is interpreted in such a way as to suggest what woolf tries to achieve in writing is more successful than the attempts of joyce

i mean i'm sure the argument has a bit more meat to it but hiding it behind the use of the word 'effective' is not a postgrad move, unless i severely overestimate postgrad

>dispute her claim
>her claim
>her

Noted.

>>8580258
appeal to authority fallacy

try again

It's a personal opinion, m8. Can totally see preferring Woolf over Joyce.

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>>8580258
I feel like James and Nora just look so painfully but effortlessly cool, like they're some super cool underground indie band, in that picture. And I mean painfully in the sense it causes you to desperately wish you could be like them in some way. So I put the kind of comments from such people as massive jelly on their part.

Here's Woolf being tryhard fedora af for comparison.

>itt: people who haven't read Joyce or Woolf

>>8580288
she looks like a fucking dude

also, joyce's wife is pretty hot in that OP

>>8580288
looks like oscar wilde lmao no wonder she killed herself

>>8580288
that's dawter

>>8580258
>her claim
And but so then of course

>>8580288
>tryhard

Woolf was always like that though. Check out the Dreadnaught hoax.

The amount of ignorance in this thread is unreal.

>>8580301
She had a handsome face

>>8580258
>more effective
>implying literature is some kind of tool to used convey ideas or relay a chain of events rather than an art

Are musicians who use less notes better because they are more effective with the ones they do use? Are painters who use only two colors better because they are more effective?
Is "For sale: baby shoes, never worn." The greatest work of literature ever because it tells an entire story with only six words?

>>8580288
>"James and Nora are so cool, like they're in some super cool underground indie band"
>"Massive jelly"
>Vita-Sackville-West-010.jpg
>"Here's Woolf being tryhard fedora af"

Christ almighty.

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>>8580312
>tfw bunga bunga is unelaborate language that neither confuses nor alienates

>>8580318
>confusing simple or easy to understand with minimalism
You should know better.

>>8580330
That is actually Woolf, I assume it was West that took the picture or something.

>>8580301

thats why she was a truly great writer

manly women > feminine women

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>>8580347
>>8580330
>>8580288
For comparison. Similar fedora levels, but it's quite clear that Virginia is ironically the butch with man face.

>>8580347
No, the portrait is by E. O. Hoppé. It's Vita Sackville-West.

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>>8580356
"Virginia, what hat should I pose in today?"

>effective
Journalism-derived buzzword. Your professor's just a highly qualified hack.

>>8580301
That's his schizo daughter Lucia.

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>>8580356
She wasn't fucking herself, anon.

>>8580365
That's what I thought too, but the filename says Joyce and Nora, and reverse image shows James Joyce and Nora Barnacle.

>>8580373
Nah, someone just mislabeled it. There's a pic with his whole family on Wiki and that's definitely not Nora.

You guys are pretty much in the dark without some tits to go on, right?

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>>8580391
Look at those tits!

>>8580258
>None of you faggots have the credentials to dispute her claim.
/lit/ has best selling literary authors, is your professor one?

>>8580258
>her claim
>her
I don't think this post warrants a response. The inferior female brain obviously cannot comprehend james joyce.

>>8580404
I'm a girl AND I read Ulysses

>>8580420
"""read""" Ulysses

>>8580288
I can't, for the life of me, figure out how a hobbies board like /mu/ manages to be as terrible as /pol/.

Well, not to me.

>>8580258

>None of you faggots have the credentials to dispute her claim.

but i like both in equal measure

your agenda-driven dyke teacher = BTFO

>>8580258

putting aside the fallacious appeal to authority, your failure to understand that two PhD English teachers can have dissenting but valid opinions makes me question what university you're going to and how you managed to pass Composition I and II

Since when is alienation a bad thing?

Why are so many people so damn pseudohumean in their view of art? Perhaps -- no, no, don't dismiss me quite yet -- that sometimes the reader should be challenged by the author rather than coddled into staying in their comfort zone? Sometimes it is good to be a bit too ambitious in one's writing rather than write something that will be forgotten in a decade.

I doubt this woman has read either, because Woolf is just as guilty of using tortuous language.

Did Joyce actually need that eyepatch? I always wonder this.

Furthermore, Joyce was a loving husband with a healthy sexuality; Woolf was a dirty queer that married another queer, and both of them dirtied their marriage further through queer infidelities.
>>8580439
20=times

>>8580670
just like people question your orientation u fag boi with ur fancy words

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>>8580707

lowkey u a savage fo dat

>>8580706

emotions have been challenging the audience and taking them out of their comfort zone since the Greeks you people continuously tell people to start with

>>8580729
How is this relevant?

>>8580258
>her
Dismissed.

>>8580706
It's hot when 2 girls have sex so your last point is invalid. (unless they are butches)

Society should only accept female x female relationships (unless they are butches) and fags can go die.

>>8580764
>woolf and vita aren't butch
Her husband was also homo.

>>8580771
im glad she left her faggot husband then

Even though Woolf was mannish, I should specify that by butch I mean those fat short haired dykes who dress like men. I guess those didnt exist back then.

Joyce is the greatest literary artist of all time.

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jokes on you and your prof, I have not and will never read either of them

>>8580258
>her

Subtle bait. You won't make us hate Woolf, frog faggot

As a non native english speaker,Joyce confuses me.
I have no idea what is happening,but the prose is pretty.I see the aesthethic value and the talent.

>>8580258
>the big words and fancy talk in joyce hurts my brain
typical woman tbqh

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Thats Lucia not Nora, the chick who dated Beckett

>Lady Gaga is a better finger painter
than Leonardo Dicaprio because art isn't wank and is very serious..

BTFO REKT #nochin SWAG

How do you feel to know you're an inferior being?

>>8580258
>PhD English
>prestigious

a tip
a top
a tip top
tippidy kek
n' drek

>>8580848
This.