Blood Meridian

My diary desu

who /dancing/ here

who /spitting/ here

"Shot the goddamn bear!"

Blood Meridian

My diary tbqh

who /and and and and/ here?

>The sun rose like the head of a gigantic throbbing penis.

wtf cormac

>>8515879
he said phallus

This book sucked, you know who else loved it? Reddit. That says all you need to know

>>8515882
oh yeah still a weird simile tho

>>8515889
Also Pynchon, DeLillo, Bloom, Lish, Bolano and Vollmann. Which tells me more.

i just ordered this book.
i dont have a clue about books, but i liked the raw feel of the movie no country for old men.
Will i like this?
Also i liked the stand and 11.22.63

>>8515890
how delicate and/or warped are your sensibilities that that would stand out as salient to you in a book like Blood Meridian? More to the point, what about it is weird to you?

>>8515889
You sucked
Your Dads dick that is
Jk, what didn't you like about it? Also, what does some people on Reddit liking this book tell me other than some people on Reddit like this book?

>>8515698
The Judged rapes the Kid's sister, Phoebe.

>>8516002
if you see the head of a big penis whenever you look at the sun i have some bad news for you :/

>>8516209
The news being that I am gay? Or I have a dick? Or that I have the ability to assign the qualities or likeness of one thing to another?
If you're going to police your own thoughts anon I think I may have some bad news for you :(

>>8516200
Eh? I don't even remember there being a sister

>>8515901
it tells me they're all trash

>>8516293
No, don't police your thoughts. If you see a throbbing erect penis whenever the sun rises, then that's all you. Just know that virtually nobody else sees the sun that way.

>>8516200
Kek
>>8515993
It's one of those books that the average guy will like. Even if he's not into literature that much. It can be read as a cool western if nothing else.
Use bookdrum notes on Blood Meridian as you read, it will help you with a lot of stuff.

wtf even is a blood meridian? I have never seen this asked here.

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>>8516362
The title can be read two ways. Taken with its subtitle, the evening redness in the west. We can read blood as the adjective and meridian as the noun, meaning a movement westward toward the literal and metaphorical end of the north american west; its sunset.

Alternatively you can take blood as the noun and meridian as the adjective, meridian meaning apex in its adjectival form. Again this calls to mind the end of the west, but now though through an exploration of the most ruthless operation of its anomie

corn

>>8516506
cob

What image do you think stays with you most from your reading of the book?

For me it's when they're in the old Pueblo city and the judge climbs the canyon and sits in the middle of all the bats.

>>8516646
"The Judge idled his corncob pipe about his mouth edge, smiled and spoke to The Kid, his words coming among the airy faints of smoke it drew with the unshaped air he now wove, you may have seen the blood meridian, but you never did the Kenosha."

>>8516646

the last two scenes

>>8516315
buddy I didn't write the book. I didn't realise the criteria for a good simile was one you'd thought of before. I doesn't matter what you see when you look at a sunrise; Cormac's trying to build a reality here, one where the sun rise looks like a big dick for some reason. The best criticism for it I can think of is the mental image of a huge bellend rising from below the horizon is hilarious and doesn't gel with the feel of the novel. Not to sound too pretentious but I was trying to establish a dialect, one where you might have something more to say than 'thats weird', I realise now that I went about it the wrong way and just sounded combative.

So, why is it weird to you?

When do the supposed long boring scenery descriptions start? I'm on chapter 5 and haven't gotten to them.

>>8516646
The tree with dead babies hanging from it, the judge in the outhouse and dancing with the fiddle, and Glanton getting split in the head and his last sentence

What did Corncob mean when he said that the Kid has a sister in the world that he'll never see again? Where is his sister?

Anyone else find themselves magnetized towards the Judge in a way?
I shouldn't want to meet him, but I kind of do.

>>8517494
Maybe you just have a natural lust for war and bloodshed

>>8515698
Really nice

>>8517502
You have to admit he would be an interesting guy to meet.

Was reading this book for the first time recently, and realized McCarthy uses the Nahuatl word "maguey" to describe an aloe plant.

WHAT A FUCKING HACK HE SHOULD KNOW THAT'S THE WORD FOR AGAVE AND THAT THOSE AREN'T RELATED TO ALOES. ALOE DOESN'T EVEN GROW IN THE AMERICAS. HAHAHA SMARTER THAN U.

>>8517520
Maybe. But having only recently finished the book I must say that I'm quite horrified by him. He says he will never die.

>>8517536
MCCARTHY BTFO! HOW WILL HE EVER RECOVER?!

>>8517538
He is horrifying. But so seems the landscapes McCarthy makes, maybe even more so - and I feel like he provides a meaning in the face of it, and in that way almost a comfort. Even if he embodies human brutality, he makes sense of and gives grander to this action in the 'void' of McCarthy's world. I guess it's in a Marlowe to Kurtz kind of sense.

>>8515832
Blood Meridian

>>8517536
>HAHAHA SMARTER THAN U.
this is why I come to /literature/

How do you guys feel about the epigraph from the 1980s at the beginning of the book? It's weird to me, because it makes us aware that, even within the world of the book, that this story is being looked back on.

>>8517536
>>8517540
>>8517568

He uses the word aloe and the phrase century plant, both being titles, the former being a nickname for agave, and the latter specific to the agave (so he knows what the agave is). Pseuds like you need to read him before you make yourselves look like idiots again.

So what was with that epilogue?

>>8517671
Nosey gnomes know no gnosis

>>8516315
>virtually nobody else sees the sun that way
I see the sun as the everlasting light-spewing asshole of God.

>>8517493
>Where is his sister?
The sister is the kid himself; it's a reference to his androgynous nature. The judge knows the kid is much too foolish to heed what is basically a warning that he's gonna get hisself some of that juicy boipucy.

>>8517682
But who are gnomes? Darwinists?

>>8517990
You and Cormac would get along nicely

>>8516646
The part where the kid first runs into the Indians, before meeting Glanton's gang.

>>8517493
It's foreshadowing the Kid's death.

>>8517618
>you need to read

I'm to intelligent to read.

>>8517445
kek

>>8517558
>I guess it's in a Marlowe to Kurtz kind of sense

That's literally what he's supposed to be, and Conrad did it better.

>>8518604
It's actually modeled from Moby Dick, but it's all the same really. I don't think blood meridian is too far behind either of them.

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>and then The Judge fucked The Kid's ass is it was a Blood Meridian

DROPPED

>>8518630
Didnt happen. At that point the kid was the man, and the Judge can only get it up to little brown children.

>>8518641
The judge never raped anyone. He's beyond earthly pleasures, he's literally satan

>>8518144
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hylics

>>8515698

>ah, blood meridian, monsieur? that novel is the sark and chaparral of literature, the filament whereon rode the remuda of highbrow, corraled out of some destitute hacienda upon the arroya, quirting and splurting with main and with pyrolatrous coagulate of lobated grandiloquence. our eyes rode over the pages, monsieur, of that slatribed azotea like argonauts of suttee, juzgados of swole, bights and systoles of walleyed and tyrolean and carbolic and tectite and scurvid and querent and creosote and scapular malpais and shellalagh. we scalped, monsieur, the gantlet of its esker and led our naked bodies into the rebozos of its mennonite and siliceous fauna, wallowing in the jasper and the carnelian like archimandrites, teamsters, combers of cassinette scoria, centroids of holothurian chancre, with pizzles of enfiladed indigo panic grass in the saltbush of our vigas, true commodores of the written page, rebuses, monsieur, we were the mygale spiders too and the devonian and debouched pulque that settled on the frizzen studebakers, listening the wolves howling in the desert while we saw the judge rise out of a thicket of corbelled arches, whinstone, cairn, cholla, lemurs, femurs, leantos, moonblanched nacre, uncottered fistulas of groaning osnaburg and kelp, isomers of fluepipe and halms awap of griddle, guisado, pelancillo.

>>8518655
>implying

>>8515879
I laughed out loud at this post

Everyone always cites "they spat" and "they rode" when summarizing the book, but "dark eyes" and lightning seem to be more prominent, and are at least more noticeable. Are they not mentioned because they're more difficult to shitpost about?

>>8516646
The amazing description of the Indians who fuck over the militiamen trying to conquer Mexico

>>8516747
>underrated post

>>8518655
He's better than Satan. He is the embodiment of all man kind.

>>8518604
>>8518628
The Judge Seems different from Ahab and Kurtz though, in that he isn't swallowed by his ambitions and actually seems to end standing atop the world around him.

>>8516747
I giggled

we talking about reddits favorite cowboy book again. God you guys are plebs

>>8519141
That's exactly why I don't think he's more than a figure. No one touches him, no one kills him, he's never in danger - I don't think he's a person, or a being at all. So I don't think the Kid/the Man got raped in the end.

It's a very weak ending if the whole book culminates into a bout of sodomy.

>>8515698
Literally the GOAT

>>8516946
You're wasting your time, bud. You aren't going to coax a meaningful discussion from a dude whose first and only item of opinion on the matter is that the inclusion of phallic imagery in fiction = being gay haha.

>>8516315

i see the sun that way

>>8516493

Also possibly the edge of a scalp wound

>>8519221
So out of interest what do you think happened in the jacks?

>>8519303
The Kid 'embraced' his the wild evil within himself (and all man) and killed/raped the Bear girl.

>>8519310
I've only read it once but considering everything that seems to make sense. I didn't consider it though because the man still seemed defiant at the end, and I thought the Judge was removing the last trace of good.

>>8519141
Judge is the whale, not Ahab yo.

>>8519397
I realized that a little after I typed.
>pale white hairless skin of the judge = moby

>>8518655
>he's literally satan
i see him as more of a Gnostic Archon than anything else. It explains why he's so careful about cataloging things in his book. "anything that exists without my knowledge exists without my consent."

>>8519468
Thanks Wikipedia

>>8519472
hey man, just because the wiki article mentions it doesn't mean it isn't a legitimate reading of the text

>>8519238
It's a funny passage, lad. Lighten up.

>>8519510
>>8519468
I think Corncob purposefully kept the Judge a notch or two away from a clear definition. He's somewhere in that vicinity (though I know nothing of gnosticism) but he's not really easy to pin down and define.

I maintain that he didn't physically rape the Kid. It doesn't make a lick of sense.

>bear rape
>huge glass
>big guy
>snow
>casino niggers
>huh

bub marinara

>>8519596
u wot

Binge read the first page, it's shit.

>not letting a professional read it for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp5ivEk5FQ4

>>8516646

"A man's at odds to know his mind cause his mind is aught he has to know it with. He can know his heart, but he dont want to. Rightly so. Best not to look in there. It aint the heart of a creature that is bound in the way that God has set for it. You can find meanness in the least of creatures, but when God made man the devil was at his elbow. A creature that can do anything. Make a machine. And a machine to make the machine. And evil that can run itself a thousand years, no need to tend it."

>>8516646
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WZGK2kziPM

Blood Meridian

>>8515993
"I don't even know what a troll trolling a troll, while fishing for troll b8 in a b8 captcha for trolls is anymore."
-Aloysha Fydorovich Karamazov

>>8520157
This is an abomination

>>8519274
OK