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BOTTOMS FUCKING DREAM

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It shipped. Is /lit/ ready?
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>>8492236
Who cares about your meme shit, Jerusalem is coming out
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what the fuck
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>>8492238
Fuck outta here
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Hipster CUNT
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>>8492236
should I drop the 50 on it brother?
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>>8492236
Do I invest in this or Jerusalem? Maybe both?
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Why would anyone buy a "new" book when there are undoubtedly so many older books of higher quality?

If you haven't read V., or Tristam Shandy, or Middlemarch, or The Invention of Morel, or the Tale of Genji, or The Ambassadors, or Train, Whistle, Guitar, or even Bluets or the Infinite Lightness of Being, then what are you doing even considering buying:
A) a book centered on wordplay which will always therefore resist translation, or
B) some hackneyed libertarian allegory by a literal comic man?

Sometimes, /lit/, you don't know what's good for you.
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>>8492343
>Tristam Shandy
>trying to namedrop but you can't even spell the titles correctly

fuck off pseud
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>>8492236
>>8492248
WHY IS SO FUCKING BIG
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>>8492352
>Very interesting points, anon, but instead of addressing them might I call your attention to THIS TYPO?

The post.
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>>8492359

You also mistitled The Unbearable Lightness of Being and

>Tale of Genji

is really off the wall.
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>german
>Zettel's Traum Original
>yessss

curious how they translated all the weird stuff Schmidt did by using german idioms and vernaculars etc.
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tl;dr FREUD AND DADDY'S DICK!

thanks, schmidt!
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I'm so fucking ready

I want this
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>>8492354
this
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>>8492331
They're both shit t b h. Read Finnegans Wake or Ulysses.
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That's a big book.
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>buying a bulky $50 book you're never going to read just to get hipster cred
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>>8492343
>literal comic man

kek
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>>8492927
Imagine OPM done by Moore
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>>8492901
for sure
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>>8492343
>Infinite Lightness of Being
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>>8492343
>Not mentioning David F. Kundera's "The Unbearable Jest"
What a pleb.
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>>8492236
This is exactly how I imagined Bottom's Dream buyers to look like.

He is obviously not going to read it.
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You're a fucking tryhard retard if you start reading Schmidt with Bottoms Dream. At least start with school for atheists and maybe his earlier novellas.
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>>8493469
Also all of these are in English already translated woods. You have no fucking excuse to be a tryhard faghot
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>>8493181
El em ayy oh
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Bump. Calling all true patricians, biggest release of the last decade
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>>8492236
You may as well read the Voynich manuscript
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>>8492236

> man guys look at this big german door=stopper nobody has read yet hahaha! I have it!
>what do you mean, have I read it? No, that's why I'm excited!
>what do you mean, have I read Arno Schmidt before? hahaha no that's why I'm excited!
>what do you mean, the only reason I'm reading it was because it was on a meme chart that called it "difficult"? No retard, I'm reading it because it's very long and experimental...
>now to take a picture of me holding it next to some other long book I've never read but brag about, before I put it on the bookshelf forever haha
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>>8493754
It wasn't on a chart and I'm German you filthy pseud
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>>8493754
Buttblasted pseud detected
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>>8493766

> I posted another picture of how BIG this book is haha!
> of course I can't say anything else about it. But did you see how BIG and EXPERIMENTAL it is?
> No really, please stop asking me what the book is about. It's big and experimental. See this picture of how big it is.
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>>8493774
assblasted poorfag pleb alert
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>>8493732
Damn grampa what are you doing on a website for 18-25 yearolds?
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>>8493774
>mom, mom, look at me rising above the memes
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>>8493732
based orthofer
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hnnng
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>>8493732
How come you never review any well-known classics like The Odyssey or The Brothers Karamazov?
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>>8492236
Well, I'm jealous.
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>>8492236
>Bottoms Dream
>Finnegans Wake is full of farts
>Gravity's Rainbow is about gas based propulsion
>Infinite Jest - toilet humour is always funny
>also Infinity Jets
What's going on here?
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>>8492343
You are a master baiter. Now resist that wordplay, faggot.
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How much of it was deliberate?
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>>8494428
It might not even be him. There are a couple of shares on goodreads. I might have posted some that weren't mine.
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>>8493469
>>8493473
Why the FUCK is no one reasponding to me when I have the smartest fucking post in the thread.

Fucking kill yourselves of you poseur faggots.
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>>8495300
we can't fucking accept it anon we're as much of a pleb as you seeking validation fucking kill yourself too
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>>8492236
I'm not one of those retards who says it's gay to read in public. I always read on the bus or subway. but I will not fucking bust that book out in public. I refuse to read such a monster in public. I'll add that to my list of books i will not read in public, along side a little life. walking around d sucking a cock is less gay than that cover.
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Is this about a bottom guy dreaming about gay Chad?
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>>8494788
Walpurgis Night is one of the best chapters in that book. Have fun with the French though.
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>>8496012
this

gayest title ever
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>>8492901
为你
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>>8494809
>An opulent mythology for those without a pot to piss in, through the labyrinthine streets and pages of Jerusalem tread ghosts that sing of wealth, poverty, and our threadbare millennium
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>>8496012
It's from Shakespeare, you yutz.
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>>8492236
Cool that Bono digs it
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>>8496071
>not 对你来说
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I definitely won't read it but I'll attach straps to it and carry it like a backpack.
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Can someone tell me the name of the author of that Jerusalem book you've all been going on about?
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>>8496139
No, it's a wet dream of a bottom fuccboi longing for a hard prick in his arse.
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>>8496303
Comic book man
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I remember shitposting Arno when no one else did, and now he has become a fucking meme. I cannot believe I live to see this day.
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>>8496061
>Have fun with the French though.
My version was in two volumes with all the footnotes, including the translated French, in the second volume.
The publisher must have been the spawn of Satan.
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>>8492236
He looks more like a bottom himself desu.
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>>8492236
This whole fucking thread is the absolute rock bottom
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>>8496538
It's fine. Shitposting happens. At least we got some good talk from it.
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>>8495486
The difference is a I've actually read his other shit, which is fantastic for the record, which has been translated by woods for over a decade, and is obviously an ideal place to start.

Anyone jumping straight into Finnegans Wake here would be considered a pseud of the highest caliber but this is somehow ok.
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>>8497004
Well this is actually good to know.
Arno recs?
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is this just a zeno's conscience level of memery?
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>recognitions
>jr
>the tunnel
>bottoms dream

is dalkey shilling on /lit/?
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>>8496061
>Walpurgis Night is one of the best chapters in that book. Have fun with the French though.

the john woods translation (the one pictured) actually translates the french to english.

this is a re-read and the ht lowe porter left the french as is. it wasn't ideal since i had forgotten most of my french but i struggled through it well enough. the john woods one definitely made for easier reading

walpurgis is one of my fav chapters too but i prefer Snow, A good Soldier/A soldier and brave depending on translation, and of course the sections with peeperkorn

magic mountain is just so good n_n
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>>8497184
Dalkey is just based AF
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>>8497184
dalkey publishes a few hundred more books that aren't shilled here so -shrug-

also penguin publishes(d) recognitions too

dalkey just generlaly has good taste and a small subsection of dalkey's impressive catalog happened to become memes.
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Anyone know how many of these English editions they are printing?
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>>8497252
>>8497261

Dalkey has some good stuff but 90% of their material is failed experimental garbage. For every The Recognitions they have nine Joshua Cohen wank books.

I mean, Gaddis is wank as well, but he's good wank.
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>>8497390
i mean sure. when you go for the type of book that dalkey goes for you're invariably getting a lot of garbage and prosaic experimentation

it's a noble endeavour and i do not fault them one bit for it. it's not like dalkey is printing money
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>>8497398
>>8497398

Agreed, but they seem to jump on board with nobodies faster than other high-end publishers like, say, NYRB. As an even better comparison, New Directions, which is incredibly picky and often veers experimental.

If I won the lottery, I would have no trouble buying every New Directions or NYRB series, because I knew they are very well curated. Dalkey would have to cut their selection drastically for it not to be a waste of money.
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>>8496319
That's Molloy
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>>8497410
NYRB plays it a lot "safer" than dalkey. a handful of experimental and novel publications, a lot of generally acceptable and unoffensive titles, veers middlbrow at times. i think they occupy slightly different "levels"

if i won the lottery i'd happily buy every book by all three publishers.

im also at the point where to some extent im willing to stomach a LOT of flaws as long as the book offers at least one interesting/novel/intriguing/insightful tidbit, and dalkey publications deliver on that fairly consistently. nyrb delivers less on that aspect, but more consistently on a basic level of proficiency.
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>>8493732
I'm so glad I stumbled upon the completereview. Some of my absolute favorite books came from otherfer's recommendations.
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>>8497566
what is this? link?
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>>8497582
http://www.complete-review.com/main/main.html
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>>8497566
Cosa? Chi è lui?
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>>8497587
Grazie - this is a good site
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>>8497173
A school for atheists at least.
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>>8497587
this web design is quaint as fuck and i love it
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>>8497892
You should see the most /lit/ site of all time:

http://www.beyond-the-pale.uk/
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JESUS
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>>8492468
The Infinite Lightness of Being is a closer approximation of the original Czech.

The Tale of Genji is literally the first novel. How can anyone serious about novels not read it? Borges put it in his top ten.
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>>8493059
>>8493181
It's really sad when plebs rise to the occasion thinking that, finally, they can one-up an even lowlier pleb, only to be cut down and cast even farther into the pit of irrelevance. Please see the above post for the actual title of Kundera's novel:>>8498067

Don't make the mistake again.
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>>8497679
Problem with School for Atheists is the cost/rarity. If Schmidt's really gonna be the next /lit/ meme, then we'll soon be talking like $75-100 for a paperback, which is pretty fucking stiff.
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>>8497410
There are at least 50 great Dalkeys that are never mentioned here.
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>>8498057
But seriously though why the fuck is it so big?
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>>8492248
Christ. What a waste. Cant believe people fell for this goddamn nonsensical meme. Have fun trying to decipher the mad rantings of a Finnegans Wake rip off.
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>>8493181
wtf i was drinking milk
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>>8492477
that's the joke. it cant possibly be done without altering the hell out of it.
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>>8493181
The Infinitable Jestness of Being on Time
By David Kundeggers.
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>>8498606
Pleb. Embrace the glorious new meme.

BOTTOMS MOTHERFUCKING DREAM.
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What the fuck is this book?
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>>8498784

The greatest story ever told, friend
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Zettels Traum is my favourite book of all time, I've read it three times in German and am already working my way through this English translation. Definitely worth the effort. My favorite part is when I'm making this all up you stupid fucking hipster, go read a book instead of masturbating your lit penis over this dreck. You are the cancer ruining this board, fuck off.
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>>8498981
Have you read The Tunnel?
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>>8498986
No, American literature doesn't interest me.
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>>8498994
Why do you only review atheist nonfiction? Can't handle a religious viewpoint?
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>>8492236
I wish I could be there and see the look in their eyes when they start reading and the terrible realization that they've been memed washes over them with cold furor.
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>>8499143
I can't wait
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>>8494822
So it's the German House of Leaves ?
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>>8498057
Get outta here, Nathan. Hadrian's got ya beat.
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>>8499005
I don't?
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>not reading Schmidt's early postwar pieces
>not reading Leviathan
>instead falling for a German intellectual running gag

You cannot possibly make this shit up
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>>8498784
literally, Freud
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>>8492236
>book titled bottom's dream
>it's a fucking huge over-sized book
>a bottom is the receptive partner in gay anal sex
>a bottom's dream is generally a fucking huge over-sized dick
this is a joke right?
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>>8494794
He's not a fan of Dostoevsky for some reason.
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Reminder
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>>8499872
no bottom from mid-summer nights dream, chump.
zettels traum.
bottom is a weaving term, as is zettel.
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>>8500082
nah, i'll stick with the gay subtext
it's more fitting for the faggots that would read this shit
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this actually seems like an interesting and valid way to present a dream
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>>8500629
>being this much of an insecure brainlet
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>>8500638
jokes on you, i'm gay and can recognize shit
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>>8500040
so this is the power of autism
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>>8500629
Plebs get out
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Which one of you faggots is doing this?
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>>8498606
It was inspired. You just hate contemporary shit to be contrary. Ulysses was inspired by the Oddessy. I'm working on a book now inspired by As I Lay Dying.
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>>8500784
nice work subtly dropping ur pretentious project fag
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>>8500769
Lol
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This book is gorgeous
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The sheer number of cunt puns is unreal
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>>8501148
whadda fug man
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It looks like gibberish
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Masterwork summary
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>>8501222
>First and foremost it is about Edgar Allan Poe

Ahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahaa
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wat
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non reader whats the point of this book.

it literally looks like gibberish
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>>8501355

If you don't know German, French, and haven't read the complete works of Poe in English there's literally no point.
It's like reading Joyce without a knowledge of proper Oirish.
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>>8501148
what are all those symbols? What's the point?
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How well do the German puns carry into English, overall?

If they're at least 80% similar, I'm sold.
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>>8501677
79% carry over. Give it a skip.
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HUGE
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MEMER
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>>8501685
Weirdly enough I meant to type 70%

How well does it translate, really?
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Absolute madman
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>>8501778
Hears a random page for you to ass=ess!<
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>>8500040
I'd rather read a thesaurus.
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I think we can all safely say we're embarrassed that this had to happen.
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>>8492248
More like bottomless meme...
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>>8501958
I mean.... Yeah
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>>8502098
That is such a C- pun.

See=min is=phun

Oh shit.
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>>8501148
Poem on the left is actually pretty good.

Still, how can one go on for 1500 pages like this? Regardless of any memery, this shit is pretty mind boggling.
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>1500 page dick joke
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Really not a fan of the Schmidt meme thing. His work is heavily based on Freud and Freud is pretty much completely debunked in the 21st century, now what's leftin Schmidt's work but stupid gay sex puns?
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>>8502322
>completely debunked
i love how people throw this out with such frequency- as if it's common knowledge- but never explain how
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>>8502322
sup buddy. how's freshman year going?
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>>8502350
Right, I'm getting a Master in Econ but whatever

Also: http://www.arno-schmidt-stiftung.de/content/Archiv/ZettelsTraum/ZT-Beispielheft.pdf

He literally says Sperma die Ohrn auf

Can't get any more gay sex pun based than that
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>>8502263
It's a poem by Poe.

This is an English translation of a book about a German translating an English language author.
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>>8502368
>I'm getting a Master in Econ

couldn't find a real job and got rejected from all the phd programs, eh? sucks that sub 3.0 GPA didn't impress any interviewers. but hey im sure by saddling on another $50k in debt you'll make something out of yourself.
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>>8502402
> saddling on another $50k in debt you'll make something out of yourself.

This might surprise you mate but not the whole world is the fucking US of A, I don't pay to get to college, I actually get paid, think about that

Also getting a Master in Econ is the standard where I'm from, only the suckers stop after a Bachelor and if you want to get a PhD you usually get a Master before it as well so I'm on the normal path actually. I'll probably not pursue a PhD after my Master though, don't think it's worth it
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>>8502391

We've been next-level memed
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>>8502419
>Current Year
>Being European

why even live senpai?
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>>8502433
Yeah I'd totally prefer the totalitarian surveillance state where people with 200k debt (debt which can't be defaulted by going into bankruptcy too, fucking lol) can't find a proper job and literal race wars happen in major cities, sounds lovely
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>>8492236
I'll wait to get it on my kindle.
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>>8502471
>This might surprise you mate but not the whole world is the fucking US of A

how ironic.
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>>8502419
>>8502471
>understanding countries via reddit headlines
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>>8492236
This looks like total shit. Enjoy convincing yourselves that this book matters. I'll go back to my non-fiction thank you very much.
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>>8503090
>non fiction

kek brainlet detected
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>>8503090
Woods will win awards for this
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Can anyone explain the punctuation and typography? Is it some primordial emoticon system or what?
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It looks like shit.
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>>8503183
For what? Translating German gibberish into English gibberish?

It's your money I spend as you see fit. I shouldn't judge but just not sold on the hype.
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>>8503238
>he's too pleb for John woods

kek
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>>8492236
wonder what a lit meetup would look like
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It's just Freud. Big fucking deal.
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>>8503776
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>>8503914
fucking retard, do you really think this shit is funny?
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>>8503922
no
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>>8492236
Could someone who has purchased this literary work offer an excerpt from it?
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>>8503942
just read the fucking thread? people have posted
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>>8498784
le big meme book that cannot be translated is translated by masochist meme man
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>>8503914
fuck off back to /mu/
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>>8503734
Who is John Woods?
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>>8503994
a strong contender for "most patrician man alive" following the death of umberto eco
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>>8501774
>y'havta read Joyce's Ulysses 20 times
Someone make this into a banner, please.
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>>8500769
Let me guess

you
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>>8501909

I'm suffering secondhand embarrassment big time from this thread

nobody here will read past page 5 and we'll be hearing about it for months
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>>8500040
wow. You guys are sheep for falling for the hype. just look at this shit m8s.
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>>8501161
i'm sorry where is said pun?
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Why is every D capitalizeD?
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>>8504664
i see some uncapitalized ones, anon. looks more like every dental preterite d is capitalized.
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>>8501800
>I sweating effébe; 2 younstirs with bronze noses; I lad, who stood in the water & jerkt

Jesus whats up with all these german Fritzl's
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>>8504555
Page 17 here, it's god tier so far
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>>8504677
wait, are they capital letter Is or old-fashioned typeface numeral 1s?
also, how did Woods decide what to misspell and how to misspell it? the German for "youngster" is "Jugendliche," so did Arno misspell the German for the sake of creating a (presumably sexual or fart-related) pun or just for the nonsense aesthestic, or even at all, and Woods said "I will misspell it this way for no reason," or did he have a reason, or what?? sorry this is frying my motherboard.
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>>8504684
God tier shit.
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more excerpts pls
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>>8504698
(?-: why diD Fr, who was gazing vacantly along :-; suddenly havta look so=downcast? (Simply because She wore a 9? ...)
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>>8504698
(?-: why diD anon, Who was gazing vacantly along :-; suddenly havta look so=downcast? (Simply because he was a pleb? ...)
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>>8504725
>>8504731
oo that's wormwood
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>>8504723
Page 746
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>>8504664
D stands for "Daddy's Dick"

aka, the whole novel is about Freud
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>>8504684
wtf is that
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>>8504684
>it's god tier
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>>8504780
Magnificent
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>>8504684
>>8504926
>god tier...magnificent
Just keep telling yourself this if it makes you feel better about your purchase.
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>>8504984
I agree with him.

Go be a faggot somewhere else.
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>>8504926

"appendicks"
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You know what would be awesome? Uploading the entire thing in a pdf or djvu. Some might bitch about photo quality or whatever, but fuck them. It would be one of the best things on /lit/ for the past 2 years.
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>>8504926

>can't even rotate an image properly
really made me think
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>>8504926
what is it that you find magnificent about it? I might spend the dough if it's actually worth it besides the novelty factor.
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>>8503914
the background of this is from a Jim Woodring drawing
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>>8505350
Ya it bothers me that this hack site steals his shit. I've emailed him about it but never got a response.
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>>8505350
>>8505361
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Comic_Chat
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