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>>8492146

I don't see the justification for an Arts degree anymore. You're saddling yourself with debt that you can't service because there's 25 of you for each job and you have what, your Spanish literature grade, to set you apart.

STEM or the trades: those are the economically feasible options now. Arts degrees are transferring your parents' wealth to a pension program for academics with little tangible return.

>>8492146
We're all chasing a steady supply of pussy, they are both grade A cock blockers. I don't mind fucking people's girlfriends knowing that this is how some of those hipster pseuds think, that new and unique thoughts are the only valuable ones, that putting people down is the only way they feel superior... well it's nice to know that new and unique penises are also sort after.

Sure you can autodidact well at a university library. The public libraries are usually dog shit with dog shit people providing distractions in them. If you were to do it realise that you would be benefiting from the uni reading lists and their library which others pay for. And you would need to be conversing with people who have absorbed different perspectives to get the most out of the text.

>>8492173
>STEM or the trades: those are the economically feasible options now. Arts degrees are transferring your parents' wealth to a pension program for academics with little tangible return.

This is what I told my cousin. She's at college now. Get a professional/STEM degree or at least a teaching credential. I did philosophy and literature. Now I have a blue color job. The job's not bad and I don't have to exploit anyone,but still, as worth while as the humanities are, they're dead as anything but an academic subject.

>>8492192

This man gave up. This man did not exceed expectations. This man did not do what is required to pursue thought.

Do not undertake the humanities unless you are the best of the best, the absolute smartest, most eloquent, and most well read person in any room you enter.

>>8492214
because once you get started, and I mean really get going in your senior year and beyond, you will start dealing with people who are going to routinely blow your ass out of the water, and it requires constant effort to keep up. if you don't have the head start of being head and shoulders above everyone you know, you're wasting your time.

>>8492214
What idiot wants to be the smartest in the room; where do you go from there?

>>8492214
This man is a child

>>8492173
Just join the army or become an itinerant hobo. Goodness, the complaining.
Of course, looking to make tons of money with an arts degree is not likely a good plan.

>>8492217
You're a snide and pretentious cunt. You've got contempt for an honest question. I read a quote that went something like "Cruelty is, perhaps, the worst kid of sin. Intellectual cruelty is certainly the worst kind of cruelty." Maybe you'll scoff at it. That wouldn't surprise me.

To my critics: harsh though it may be, the reality I am speaking about is not one of "pretension," but it is indeed one of cruelty. Above all it is one of scarcity. There are simply too many average, middling fuckos in this industry and not enough jobs for them to fill. Unless you are the best and the brightest, and I mean have a burning, seething passion to write about problems very few people care about, then you are wasting your fucking time and making it harder for the rest of us.

>>8492192
>I did philosophy and literature. Now I have a blue color job
Why assume that's representative? Plenty of people study the humanities and get well-paid jobs. Maybe you just spelt 'collar' wrong in all your job applications.

>>8492146
Of course you can OP, the question is for what purpose.

The whole point of a university, as narrow an ivory tower as it is, is that the whole point of being there is to study in order to understand a specific topic as much as possible.

Are you sure you could even bother learning a topic as deeply as a university professor for example, without actually being a university professor?

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>>8492146
Do you like apples?

>>8492173
Not in every country do you rack up debt like in the US

>>8493016
How do you like them apples*

Anybody else here a legitimate, verifiable, Good Will Hunting-esque genius?

On the one hand it's a blessing, but on the other it's an almost unbearable curse. All my life I've aced every test I've ever set. I've failed at practically nothing. Even in sports I excelled while other "academic" kids refused to even take part. I've just completed my BA in English Lit at the age of 19 and I'm about to start on my MA (fully-funded scholarship), but I don't know how long I can continue being a genius before I eventually burn out or break down. My professors all tell me that I stand out and that's it's obvious that I'm destined for great things. Heck, one of them has said outright that he wishes he had possessed my intelligence and work-rate when he was my age. Whether it's math or science or literature I just excel in everything I do without even considering that there was an option that I could not. Just last semester I solved a theorem that people had been working on for the past two decades (I won't say which one because my name is now indelibly linked with said theorem) and that was a for a class I wasn't even supposed to have attended. Psychiatrists have said that people in my very small demographic of highly intellectual individuals usually suffer from aspergers or some related disorder which deprives them of a healthy social life, but I have surprised each one in turn when I inform them that in fact I am an incredibly sociable and well-liked individual (despite also being a mysterious hermit-like recluse) and that every girl I have either dated or simply penetrated a bunch of times has described me as the kind of guy they could really see themselves with long-term.

Are there any novels about this sort of thing?

>>8493028
Because i got her number!

>>8493067
Fucking kill yourself

>>8493032
I kind of know what you mean.

I'm 19 years old.

I am handsome, smart, athletic and virile.

I have a novel that is in it's final editing stage, and a creative writing professor at my college has read the first draft and thinks it's saleable.

I have a girlfriend who is confident, articulate, playful and spontaneous.

I have a small group of interesting friends from different social and academic backgrounds, and I also have many other acquaintances who see me as a reliable source of humour and good company.

Both my parents are alive and in good health.

I have no regrets.

I have already experienced three existential crises, the latter of which was described as having the depth and profundity of a man twice my age.

I am a passionate lover, a sharp thinker, and a trader of witty repartee.

I am not self-pitying, meek or needlessly humble.

I will live a good life at your expense.

>>8492264
You're a snide and pretentious cunt.

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>I know you, I know you. You're the only serious person in the room, aren't you, the only one who understands, and you can prove it by the fact that you've never finished a single thing in your life. You're the only well-educated person, because you never went to college, and you resent education, you resent social ease, you resent good manners, you resent success, you resent any kind of success, you resent God, you resent Christ, you resent thousand-dollar bills, you resent Christmas, by God, you resent happiness, you resent happiness itself, because none of that's real. What is real, then? Nothing's real to you that isn't part of your own past, real life, a swamp of failures, of social, sexual, financial, personal...spiritual failure. Real life. You poor bastard. You don't know what real life is, you've never been near it. All you have is a thousand intellectualized ideas about life. But life? Have you ever measured yourself against anything but your own lousy past? Have you ever faced anything outside yourself? Life! You poor bastard.

Is this the best quote from the movie?

>>8492173

>the only way to have value is if you're making money

Hello, porky.

>>8493119
Gaddis is a fucking sperg.

>>8492173
>I don't see the justification for an Arts degree anymore.
>STEM or the trades: those are the economically feasible options now.
The problem is that the Arts has given up actually teaching people worthwhile skills, thinking, and techniques.

It long ago ceded/abandoned economically viable persuasion and writing to specialists in marketing/communications/psychology and similar.

Your Englishes have become obsessed with hermeneutic rabbit holes (and not particularly interested in poetics), and it's hard to view the trends in hermeneutics as anything except a function of power, belief systems, and fashions.

The irony about the lopsided "STEM vs. humanities" ""conflict"" is that STEM professionals generally have horrible written and verbal communication skills. Yet those skills are essential to have in any organisation, anyone can develop them, and they can make a massive difference getting jobs and promotions.

>>8493032
>Are there any novels about this sort of thing?
are you really asking 4chan a book about your imaginary self?

>>8492146
That guy had a pretty /lit/ haircut. Also that movie was
cringe' as the children say

>>8493153
Black with no sugar