Wtf i hate god now!

>booty-blasted christfag tears

delicious

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>start to read this book ironically for fedora meme points
>mfw end up agreeing with it and finding it logical and well reasoned

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Is Dawkins the logical conclusion to fedora-core?

>>8430651
I wouldn't say so, I've never seen him wear a fedora, and to go a step further, his bluntness and political ideas seem to regularly class with the Marxist and SJW crowd. But lel, memes.

>>8430474
shit book for edge lord teens and college age nu-males rebelling because their mommy made them go to church

>>8430700
fucking truth

DEUS VULT

Someone please post excerpts. I bet I can refute them all, using one only book

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Much superior, especially the audiobook version.
You'll be wearing so many fedoras you won't be able to walk out your front door anymore.

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>>8430675
who needs a fedora when you have your very own cuck helmet?

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Yes yes, well done atheists, well done


HOWEVER

>>8430757
I wonder if there is a similar book out there written by a Jehovah's Witness.

>>8430757
>Peter is such a second fiddle Christopher is mentioned on the jacket of his book

>>8430757
Does Peter make any points that aren't 'lmoa I was [leftist, atheist, etc] but now I'm not therefore those beliefs are wrong'

>>8430762
kek

Tfw right wing atheist

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>new atheist cuck writes a book that clearly indicates he would fail an introductory philosophy of religion class
>has no understanding of the philosophy of Aristotle or Aquinas, yet feels qualified to write about religion
>instead of understanding metaphysics, sweeps it under the rug with wishful thinking

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>>8430675
This. If nothing else, his refusal to go easy on Islam puts him at odds with Social Justice types

>>8430745
>he doesn't know about Radio Four Extra

>>8430998
Why would an Atheist study religion and philosophy when their entire point is that none of it matters. No amount of Bible quotes or Theological theories would convince someone who thoroughly rejects that entire realm of belief. Your only retort to them would be 'well then you're ignorant lmao' to which they would say the same about you, then you're both at an impasse.

>>8431124
this is easily one of the top ten dumbest things I've ever seen on lit. nicely done?

/lit/ is still a catholic board

>>8431124
>'hurr durr god exists because literally how could he not?'
>theological """""theories"""""

>>8431152
dis no debeneracy allowed :DD

>>8431146
Thanks for proving my point

>>8431124
This desu

>>8431152
im orthodox desu

>>8431124
Same reason i study anything else i find it intresting

>>8431181
Well Dawkins doesn't. so there you go

>>8431124
It matters because it gets down to the fundamental question of what is and isn't reasonable, which materialists like DORKins claims to be.

>hating "God" as if it were a real entity
>not just hating human nature for creating "God"

It's rather pointless to fault the concept of religion when it's just a pretense for our inherently evil / retarded / selfish nature. I mean, if we weren't so fucked up to begin with, then our ancestors never would have conceived religion in the first place.

>>8431242
>selfish
>bad

>>8430650
This is what I found.

>>8430650
>he read a book for "fedora meme points" and found it well reasoned by his standards
What a glowing recommendation

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>"With knowledge in my artillery, I am quite the opponent.,.."

What did he mean by this?

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>>8431316

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>>8431319

>>8431124
Hey guys I think capitalism is dumb and communism is cool. No I've never read anything about economics, shits corrupt, obviously, duh.

You honestly don't see the necessity to study about something you're arguing against? It doesn't matter if you can't convince everyone, you need to understand the other side well dumbass

>>8430650
Are you kidding me? I read that book thinking I would find legitimately good points, but all I found was shitty "logical proofs" against this generic strawman God. This made me realize just how Stupid Dawkin's fixation with God actually was. Also he constantly made these points about why religion was a toxic force, which had no basis in reality. Why does religion have to turn people of both sides into irrational idiots. Dawkin should just stick to evolutionary biology.

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>>8431321
Lucas confirmed for knowing about the Jews and Their Lies

>>8431185
Dawkins doesn't find religion interesting he just dedicates his entire life to stopping it. Sounds like interest to me.

>>8431322
>Hey guys I think capitalism is dumb and communism is cool. No I've never read anything about economics, shits corrupt, obviously, duh.

That works the other way round desu

>>8431323
right?

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

hey guys life was different back then they were all bastards. oh wait I didn't even think about cultural complexities in reviewing religion or societal differences to keep it context, they were un-enlightened bullies. Greek gods were okay though cause its a dead religion, they weren't meanies they had philosophy, which is stupid too but not meanie

>>8431152
>obeying a shitskin Italian

Cuck

>>8431338
It works that way for both sides fuckboi

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>>8431338
Thank you. That's why communism always succeeds, and those idiots boasting capitalism fail their countries. I mean just ask Eastern Europe how awesome it was to be guided by the light of communism.

>>8431321
ironic memes have made it so hard to distinguish between sincerity and trolling, does it even matter at this point?

>>8431356
The more I'm reading his tweets the more I can't decide if he's top tier satire or something else

>>8431342
The whole idea that the Old Testament God was evil is so stupid. If you look at the times and religious beliefs(sheol not heaven or hell) you'll see it all makes perfect sense and the nature of ethics have just changed since The Messiah came.

>>8431348
>Just ask America how awesome it was to be guided by the light of capitalism.

t. 1930s Russian

>>8431358
That's the thing, it almost reads as BAD satire, which in turn would make it the perfect form of satire in the internet's current paradigm of transcendent irony.
It boggles my mind.

>>8431367
At the end of the day, his posts are still leaking idiocy that guides people into thinking he's a role model, and I think we all know that's wrong.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n20/terry-eagleton/lunging-flailing-mispunching

>Reading Dawkins, who occasionally writes as though ‘Thou still unravish’d bride of quietness’ is a mighty funny way to describe a Grecian urn

>>8431370
I agree, but I think I might find the opposite just as bad, that is, people circklejerking over his inane posts because they think they are intellectually superior to someone who nearly perfectly embodies the fedora meme (as if that is a feat), without realizing it is satire.
That is assuming it is satire, I don't know. It is a strange world.

>>8431359
>ethical/cultural relativism
"No." Some of the Old Testament God's actions - commanding the Jews to kill women and children, for example - are morally wrong in any time or place.

>>8431393
It honestly depends on how you look at it. Doing those actions was necessary for the survival of the jews so The Messiah could be born of them. The religion stated everyone went to Sheol, so it's not that bad. It all just depends on if you believe in Christianity, and if you can look at the bigger picture (A death wouldn't matter to those people that much).

>>8431124
9/10 bait, good job

>>8431500
It's not bait, just because you reject it in a Dawkesian manner.

>>8431281
underrated

>>8431124
>Atheism = Apathy about Theology
For a bunch of people who "don't care about religion or God" they sure spend a lot of time talking about it.
Besides a person who 'thoroughly rejects the entire realm of belief" sounds like a dogmatic dickhead and equates to a stubbornly religious person in terms of their inability to have a conversation or come to a compromise around loosely defined abstract matters.

>>8431342
>not looking at cultural complexities
Neither do fundies, which I exactly the type of audience he is trying to trigger

>>8431323
>>8431342

He says in the book he's going after a personal Abrahamic God, a God that many people still praise and who still take every word that he "says" in the Bible literally. I imagine he would go after Greek Gods too if people still worshiped then.

He would stick to evolutionary biology if creationists don't mangle its ideas.

>>8431316
>>8431319

What's up with the shit-tier beards these types of guys always seem to have?

Low test?

>>8430784

Those points are worth considering, though.

Why would an atheist Trotskyite change his mind on basically every position he once held?

Not that I agree with Peter, either.

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>Yahweh
>not the most empoverished version of the god type
>mfw

>>8431342
>"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

When people say things like this I know they don't understand the spiritual significance of many of God's actions and take them way out of context.

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>>8432563

>spiritual significance

>>8430474

>Daily reminder that literally all the greatest philosophers and writers of all time have been christian
>Daily reminder that literally 99.9% of the adherents of autheism are mediocre and insufferable cunts

>>8432577

The Ancient Greeks trump each and every one of your intellectually immature idols.

>>8432577
>implying
>Daily reminder that literally 99.9% of the adherents of [insert random religion or ideology] are mediocre and insufferable cunts

>>8432602
>>8432605

>This triggers the autheist.

It's still true.

>>8432639

If you say 'authiest' aloud, no one's going to know what you mean. Autism has a hard 't'.

Now, Christcuck on the other hand? Everyone knows what I'm talking about.

>>8431242
>organization that, for the most part, has a message of peace
>inherently evil

found the fedora

>>8431181
I'm certainly intrested in what you're intrested in buddy

>>8432705
>>organization that, for the most part, has a message of peace

You mean like how "Islam" is supposed to mean "peace"?

>>8431348
Old people in the eastern block want communism back fyi.
Can you imagine how shit the current capitalist system is in here that they would want lo live before '89.
Yeah.It's prett shit.FUCK FREE MARKET.
IF YOU WANT AN ECONOMY TO WORK YOU NEED TO COSNTANTLY REGULATE IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT.

FREE MARKET DOESN'T EVEN EXIST.

>>8432748
I agree with your point, m8 - let's define keep defining the majority by the actions of the minority.

Who else can we ruse?

>>8432757
>Old people in the eastern block want communism back fyi.

fyi, being reminiscent about the "good ol' days" doesn't equate to wanting to regress to a clearly failed system

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>>8432757

>Old people in the eastern block want communism back fyi.

This is a myth.

>>8431242
>human instincts lead to a maladaptive utility function that is incompatible with civilization
>the humans come up with a way to alter their utility function

Fortunately you are an enlightened teenage boy who doesn't need religion, since you aren't "fucked up" like the mere mortals.

>>8432766
Of course it doesn't.But the current system isn't doing a very good job.That's why people fall into nostalgia.In '89 eastern-eruopeans believed we would look just like the west in circa 20 years.Instead we're slaves to corporate powers and politics have become a joke.
>>8432767
>not advocating for communism
It's not a myth you idiot.Do you know how miserable old people are here?It's a sad fact you won't accept.
Even shit like universal healthcare or free education aren't regarded as ''communist''.They're common sense things all across the world.
And your shitty meme only shows you have no idea what capitalism and socialism are.

>>8431345
>Pope Francis
>Italian
You're right though, he is still not white.

>>8432840
>we're slaves to corporate powers and politics have become a joke.

So is the West, dumbass.

>Do you know how miserable old people are here?

Of course some of them are miserable: they're poor. Their state pensions are shit because they worked for 40+ years at the local "Red Star" wheelbarrow and landmine factory where their work (in many cases I should refer to it as "work" but let's leave that for now) made no economic sense and no value. Their retirement money is now being payed by the current crop of corporate slaves, or else they get it in the form of rusty wheelbarrows.

>They're common sense things all across the world.

Why the commie nostalgia then?

>>8432840
Universal healthcare is something that everyone wants, and can be achieved without resorting to communism.

Read Edward Feser and/or David Bentley Hart. Don't read William Lane Craig.

I'd love to see you muslims/christians using 4chan memes in a debate with Dawkins