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/lit/'s favorite booktuber

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>"Fundamental and definitive statement: I will NOT read ANYTHING for free. You HAVE TO pay me. Period."
>"You can find out more about me by watching all of my reviews, and that is all I care to share on the subject."
>"Want my attention? Give me money. I will not read his/her work for free, ever, ever, ever."
>"I cannot afford to waste my time. My time is very, very valuable."
>"Novels $1/page, short material $50/hr (no guarantee of review)"

Oh boy, looks like those 10k subscribers got to his head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRUZTXHUSBU
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Why does he think his opinion or time is worth anything? He does booktubing; that tells me he has a lot of time to waste tbhwy blood relative
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Is this Sam Hyde of /lit?
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>booktuber

:/
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>>8418621
does he even have any credentials?
having good taste in literature doesn't count.
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If people are actually sending him a lot of stuff to review this is absolutely reasonable.
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>>8418642
He doesn't even have good taste. He just reads shit recommended by viewers of his channel.
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>>8418621
>ratfaced 40 years old goblin

I tried his Bernhard review:
>it's for Pessoa fans
>deeply melancholic
>says he's into paino music (like you know that Saatieh)
>talks about stuff irrelevant to the book
fuck this, i'm not gonna watch it any longer *closing tab*
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>>8418631
>Why does he think his opinion or time is worth anything?
Cause he says his YT channel does "altruistic work". To be reviewed by him is essentially like being kissed on the mouth by jesus
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>>8418642
He even addresses this specifically in his video, saying "no, I have no academic background, no training, no experience, NO credentials... but I have subscribers" lol. 10k is fucking nothing, AND he doesn't promise reviews, I've never even seen him review indie stuff.

I'm not a writer myself or anything so but damn it's just funny how entitled internet people are, thinking they're doing altruistic work and deserve to get donations for it. It's YOUR chosen hobby, not your right to make it as a living bro
All his videos are also like 30 minutes long and he talks more about himself than the books
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>>8418621
>check out one of his reviews
>25 min video
>at least 10 minutes is just reading quotes and passages from the book
>"...wow" *stares into distance*
>suddenly starts reviewing different kinds of whisky for 10 minutes what the hell
>goes on a personal unrelated anecdote about himself for the duration of the video

What a pretentious faggot, truly the king of /lit/.
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>>8418621
TAKE OFF THE SHITTY B&W FILTER
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>>8418621
>My time is very, very valuable
sure
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>>8418789
How else will he show he's an Intellectual, Anon?
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Simultaneously he's telling people to translate entire transcripts of his videos into French, Spanish, Japanese, etc in return for "shoutouts". lol
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>"Hey, what do you do for a living?"
>I read
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Why aren't this threads deleted?
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>>8418621
/lit/ trolled Katie who did nothing wrong
but won't troll this guy who totally deserves it
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>>8418636
Talk shit ----> Get hit
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>>8418839
Why would they be? It's lit related, you don't have to like it faggot
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>>8418651
exactly, being paid for your time is not unreasonable
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>>8418843
we could do a blaha on him and mass-dislike his videos
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>>8418878
being a douche about it and overestimating your worth is, however
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>>8418837
Sounds nice desu
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>>8418878
not if you're a literary agent
or a professional of any kind

this guy is a booktuber
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>>8418837
>I booktube
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>>8418865
Are you fucking retarded? How is this pretentious 'reviewer' faggot /lit/ approved? He's not even doing a novel review in this shitty video. This board gets worse every day.
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>>8418899
>/lit/ approved
/lit/ related
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>why am I the best booktuber in the world?
>it was a low bar

It would be pretentious if he wasn't right.
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>>8418893
>this guy is a booktuber
No difference. He provides a publicity service to the authors whose books he reviews. Authors want publicity for their books, so they pay him for it. If there is demand, you make money of it.

That still doesn't absolve him from being a giant douchecanoe though.
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I liked his shorter reviews, these 25+ minute ones are a bit too much. Standing up on a windy roof somewhere in NY talking and reading passages from Cioran. He still seems like a real cool guy though
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>>8418706
>donations

He charges for a service, he's not asking for a hand-out.

Of course you'd have to be retarded to pay him to read your shit.
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>all these people jelous of him because he's a fucking superior patrician and you're all just ugly virgins
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>>8418860
>not chat shitty get banged
>not being apart of the/sp/lit/ broship
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>>8418878
I believe everyone is upset because he has no credentials or professional experience to speak of and is giving the impression that his opinion should be valued as if he did. But yea, if people submit their work to him they would expect to be charged.
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>>8418906
there is no demand
most booktubers will do reviews in exchange for a copy (even epub or pdf) of your book
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>>8418913
He has a patreon he encourages/demands everyone support him through
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>>8418902
Bookchemist is way better.
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>>8418919
I mean, apparently there is, if he can demand a price.
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>>8418914
He probably could have his way with any mindless booktuber slut he pleases.
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>>8418921
$100 per book review...
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>>8418928
I can make a youtube channel and ask for shit too.
The thing is if people will pay for it. Some people send their stuff to booktubers because they do reviews for free in exchange for a copy, but it is questionable if they would send their stuff if they had to pay for the reviews. If someone asks for money, they will send it to someone else, and if someone send him stuff, is because they didn't think he expects to be paid for his shitty reviews.
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>>8418937
you think he let Katie cry out on his shoulder? you think he gave her the D while she was sobbing after our bullying?
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>>8418946
DELET1!!
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>>8418944
>I can make a youtube channel and ask for shit too.
I'm assuming he's not lying here. Obviously he could be lying.
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>>8418943
Shit I thought you were joking.
He said in his video mostly girls pay him through Patreon. Wtf

I thought the donating money to internet strangers was a beta male thing?
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>>8418893

His services are worth what people are willing to pay

I bet you could pay celebrities and insta whores to shill books, and they would ask for a lot more than $1/ page.
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>>8418950
we broke her self-worth
he broke her hymen
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>>8418953
I'm assuming he is not lying either. But I assume that most people expect him to do it for free, like most booktubers, otherwise he would't make this video. If people knew he wants to be paid for something that many more booktubers will do for free, nobody would send him shit.
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Anyone know what this guy does for actual work? He looks well off, and I know he comes from money, but he never once mentions his career.
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>>8418621
He probably got a bunch of form letter requests for reviews that are spammed to booktubers and he thinks they were actually looking for him specifically.
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>>8418970
Editing. I'm guessing commercials or some shit like that.
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>>8418970
He book tubes full time
And to make ends meet I think he has an older rich wife
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>>8418971
He made a video months ago explaining that he will review material for a charge, and if he likes it you will get a video review to promote your book.

He did two video reviews and I guess became inundated with requests that either missed all the details of his agreement or want something for nothing. He seems pissed, so there must be a shitload of requests.
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>>8418918
I mean, there may be enough people who value his opinion enough to give him the impression that he can put in the time to monetise it.

he looks like a douche though

wish I could monetise my opnion...
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>>8418913
>He charges for a service, he's not asking for a hand-out.

He pretty much is. He's not asking being paid to do reviews, he's asking to do reviews FOR READING.
>"If I like it. I will review it"
You can send him money and still receive nothing.
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>>8418991
When he said it was a low bar he wasn't kidding. If you have anything even remotely interesting to say just start your own channel.
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>>8419002
Surely nothing is better than a negative review.
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>>8419008
Trouble is I've come to realize I haven't a single fully formed opinion
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>>8419002
>He pretty much is. He's not asking being paid to do reviews, he's asking to do reviews FOR READING

No he's not asking for a hand out. He's offering a shitty contract, but that's not the same as asking for handouts.
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>>8419015
Well, there it is.
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>>8419021
yup
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>>8419008
Yeah>>8418991
The startup costs are virtually nil, and as long as your videos are well made and stick to some chosen format, your bound to make something. Oh, and don't review YA or current best sellers. That's why people take Cliff seriously: at least he only reviews /lit/ quality books.
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>>8418621
I stopped hating him once I discovered that he was Islamophobic
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>>8418742
that sounds pretty good actually
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>>8418986
If he's being flooded with enough requests to make him make a video then the inboxes of those booktubers with >100k subscribers must be a nightmare to sift through.
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>>8419029
>hat's why people take Cliff seriously
he reviews good books
but his reviews are shit
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can we just fucking raid him for christ sake. he's a fucking faggot. this is 4chan. don't think just because your on the lit board your somehow better than the rest of this website. let's cut this faggot up in his comment section. he has no opinions and is a homosex. let's do this.
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Let's pay him to read The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra
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>>8418621
>ex, why, and zed
>zed
YOU'RE AN AMERICAN YOU RAT-FACED FUCK
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>>8419029
>/lit/ quality
oi i'm laffin

>>8419045
i thought summer ended? we r legion xD, epic /b/rother
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>>8419031
I stopped hating him when he let me suck him off for $100.
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>>8419045
people her are too much of a faggots to raid something
unless that something is a teenage girl like katie
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>>8419057
i only charge $50, will read your erotic poetry back to you AND give you a lil review + i don't have front teeth so it makes for a smoother bj
deal?
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>>8419055
son I've been here since the dawn of 4chan. back in my day when we called someone a newfag, it meant they migrated from the website newgrounds. you probably weren't even born when that website was popular. our queen was the skyqueen not some fat hipster emo boxxy.
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>>8419045
or at least we should spam his inbox with long, obtuse novels that are full of gratuitous homosexuality and /lit/ memes
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>>8419080
not him but oh shit I remember newgrounds

I used to play their porn games when I was like 13
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>>8419086
All gay the characters should be anagrams of his name too.
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>>8419086
everyone should spam his inbox with our novels
Tundra, Hypershpere, etc
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>>8419045
He needs to review our maximalist absurd postmodern novels.
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>>8419109
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>>8419152
[email protected]
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I don't see anything wrong with that.

He says upfront that he charges money for him to look at works you send him and in what ways he thinks they can be improved upon. It doesn't matter is some people do it for free, or if /lit/ will do the same. That's his services and if you don't want it, then don't send him your book or money.

The only thing he has of value is his own life, his time left for his life. He finds it immoral for someone to ask him to waste his time for nothing. To be altruistic for nothing.

Fucking parasites.
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>>8419045
What's the name of the operation?
We need a name.
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>>8419137
>He needs to
>he must do X
He doesn't need to do anything. If you want him to read Hypershere, then pay him for the collective good of /lit/. Do the selfless act of throwing away ~ 750$ worth of hours working to collect that amount to pay him so that the group known as /lit/ can collectively enjoy without having to have done anything.
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>>8419161
>Fucking parasites.
>posts a pic of a welfare queen

how fitting
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>>8419180
If someone paid for insurance their whole life and their house broken down, should they collect? Ayn Rand was for voluntary taxation. The only difference is that she was forced to pay her taxes and got money in return.
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>>8419173

Look at that kooky amphetamine fried face. The saucer-sized pupils with the dead stare, the palpable bruxism, the sick pallor, the brittleness of her hair.

Every writer who used speed has been shit.
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>>8419169
operation goblin liberation
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>/lit/ raid a innocent girl that make videos of book she genuinely liked, full of sincerity and joy just because "le ebin raid ^__^"
>/lit/ still chilling for a fucking faggot that asks for money to read stuff while he can't even TALK about famous books

this place have hitted a new low
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>this man charges money for his work
>how shameful, truly is is done because of ''greed'' and ''fame'', the mortal enemies of man!
>let's try to doxx him for exchanging time spent reading a book and giving his opinions on it for money
>an A for A.
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>>8419211
exactly
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>>8419211
>charges money for his work
it is not work
making reviews may be considered work
but he's just reading, that's leisure time.
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>>8419202
Different times, anon. But if you want to start it i'm not gonna stop you. I might even be by your side :3

>>8419211
Fuck off nigger faggot is he your boyfriend or something?
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baldo bloodmeme meme man here. I can use my account to talk shit to him on youtube. what should I say? I'm too stupid to think of something on my own.
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you fags don't understand, it's not that he's charging money for reviews, it's his unwavering arrogance and snobbishness.
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>>8419211
s h i l l
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>>8419238
like I said. he's just a giant faggot. someone get /b. although they won't care lol.
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>>8419223
>it is not work
What do you define as 'not work'?
Reading the books he's interested in for his channel can be considered leisure time and to a certain extent, his job paid by his patrons.
However, being forced to read materials he has no interest in reading and giving his opinion on them is work, as it isn't part of his leisure time of reading what he's interested in reading.
You simply assume all reading is leisure reading.

>>8419238
>he acts a certain way, we must destroy him for acting in a way I deem distasteful.
Is there anything inherently wrong in acting snobish if you do not know him and are not expecting work from him for money?
His arrogance and snobbishness might be an issue if it reflected in his work, but you have nothing to say except criticize the person. How typical and boring.

How boring boring boring.
And here I thought /lit/ would raise above its own pettiness.
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>>8419211
>work
lol, what is his work? read quotes and drink whisky? did you ever see any video by this guy, they are truly pathetic

>let's try to doxx
not doxx, just express a truthful opinion about this kind of bullshit, if, IF his opinions on already famous book were any good, original or insightful I would understand, but even then there is no excuse for a sad little video like the one in OP

I didn't think /lit/ was so full of delusional faggots defending a money grabbing retard like Cliff, I understand the shitpost and the memes on this board, its 4chan after all, but I tought people he ewould be sincerely triggered by a pleb trying to monetize on shit opinions about books
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>>8419211
This isn't a capitalism issue. We're just having a bit of fun because we can anon. No one is gonna rape you with taxes or haul off all your properties.
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>>8419231
someone fucking tell me what to say and I'll post it. LET'S GOOOO
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>>8419250
>This isn't a capitalism issue.
Uh huh
>"Fundamental and definitive statement: I will NOT read ANYTHING for free. You HAVE TO pay me. Period."
>"You can find out more about me by watching all of my reviews, and that is all I care to share on the subject."
>"Want my attention? Give me money. I will not read his/her work for free, ever, ever, ever."
>"I cannot afford to waste my time. My time is very, very valuable."
>"Novels $1/page, short material $50/hr (no guarantee of review)

Everything in the OP being bitched about is in relation to time and money, commodities of capitalism. Don't assume that because you enjoy bitching for the sake of bitching that I am also not having fun smugly posting Objectivism rhetoric against this fun. How fun to post Ayn Rand and her logic and see illogical arguments made against it.
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>>8419247
>Is there anything inherently wrong in acting snobish if you do not know him and are not expecting work from him for money?
>His arrogance and snobbishness might be an issue if it reflected in his work, but you have nothing to say except criticize the person. How typical and boring.

I'm not saying we should raid him, stop projecting.

I'm just explaining why he is getting all this negative attention.

>How boring boring boring.
And here I thought /lit/ would raise above its own pettiness.

are you going out of your way to sound like an anime villain lmao

ps the "OH YEAH BUT WHAT ABOUT UR WORK!" argument is tired at best and at worst, tedious.
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>>8419161
lol Cliff, are you even trying?
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>>8419250
>haul off all your properties

not arguin for/against the giy but a channel is considered a property, one that can be made undesirable after people make sure it's no longer a platform on which to sell the content
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After capitalism falls, comrade, everybody will have infinite time to read.
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you know what I bet you guys are afraid of cliff. afraid to go after him. you went after katie because she was innocent and wouldn't have anything smart to say back, she was an easy target. /lit is afraid of cliff.
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>>8419264
>Ayn Rand and her logic

to preface: i don't like the guy
just wanna point out that, overall, expecting remuneration for one's services isn't a randian idea in particular
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>>8419248
>what is his work? read quotes and drink whisky?
The value of his work is not by what you personally judge it. Simply because you do not value it high and that it does not seem to require a lot of work does not make it 'not work'.

>I didn't think /lit/ was so full of delusional faggots defending a money grabbing retard like Cliff
I am not defending Cliff, I am defending capitalism. It's his time to spend it however he wishes and if that time has a price for services, it's up to him to set it up, and his customers to buy it.

>IF his opinions on already famous book were any good, original or insightful I would understand
Talent has nothing to do with providing services. An idiot who draws terribly can still set up a commission on his deviantart page in exchange for his services. Even if the amount of work is small and the talent is minimal, or that the end result isn't impressive, it doesn't make it less valid to offer payment for those services. It's up to people to decide whether his time is worth buying.


Regardless of your opinion on it, his examination of a person's book or work is a service, regardless of the effort put into it.

>>8419269
>I'm not saying we should raid him, stop projecting.
I was hyperboling, obviously. I am also not so foolish as to assume anyone cares to raid him other than make fake shitpost about wanting to 'do' anything.

>I'm just explaining why he is getting all this negative attention.
And I'm explaining how this negative attention is wrong and he well within his rights to exchange his time for services.
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>>8419283
this basically
bullying little girls online and getting blasted by chads, this sums up 4chan
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>>8418837
Well, to be fair, that is basically what Harold Bloom, or indeed any decent literary critic, does. The difference is that an actual critic is very intelligent, and Clifford "I Need Money to Read a Word" Sargent is not.
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>>8419289
>expecting remuneration for one's services isn't a randian idea in particular
I never implied that it was either. Though it is fun to make people lose their shit for making arguments for the remuneration of services that Ayn Rand argued for while posting images of Ayn Rand, a person strongly loathed here.
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>>8419299
If you value his opinion enough to want him to give you feedback then he's as valuable to you as Bloom is to a professional writer. I still don't see the problem.
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>>8419293
Can you at least stop posting pics of this disgusting jew fuck, thanks.
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>>8419264
I wasn't making an argument. Please don't be mistaken. Every word you see does not need to be perceived as an argument and scrutinized with your infallible logic. I was just asking you not to be such a faggot, but you have made it clear that this is something you have no control over.

I won't be replying to any subsequent posts. Keep posting your ugly jewess though. It is funny, you're right.
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SOMEONE GIVE ME SOMETHING TO FUCKING POST ON HIS YOUTUBE
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>>8419299
>that is basically what Harold Bloom, or indeed any decent literary critic, does
Harold Bloom and literary critics have formal education in literature. Bloom in particular has a PhD, countless lectures on literature, and many papers published.
This guy only talks about videos on youtube. He is an 'opinion-giver'. That is nothing for what is worth to pay a cent.
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>>8419319
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If he made some funny or insightful videos, eh, I wouldn't care much, but this is just sad
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>>8419320

I'm not disagreeing with you. But when it comes right down to it, literary critics make money from understanding other peoples' work, and then sharing that understanding. To put the contrast another way: literary critics are paid to share their understanding; Clifford "I Belong in a Cattle Herd" Sargent is paid to share his lack of understanding.
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>>8419320
Oh, so you're saying that only people with education have anything to say? A person who never went to any school but is self read can't possibly have any opinions to say?

>That is nothing for what is worth to pay a cent.
That is up for the people and the market to decide his worth.
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>>8419293
>And I'm explaining how this negative attention is wrong and he well within his rights to exchange his time for services.

Again, it's not what he's saying, it's the manner in which he is saying it. He could've just said he's getting too many requests and only reviews books by people for commission, but no, he had to make a 20 minute black and white video of himself in a car with sunglasses on, repeating the same thing over and over as he constantly stares off into space with that "profound" pause in speech as if it is such an insult to his ego for the common poor plebian to be sending him messages asking for him to check their work. I'd like to emphasise the word "asking" especially.

I don't think he's doing anything particularly wrong, he's just annoying.
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who the fuck is this katie?
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>>8419328
The market determines value, my friend, and the market has spoken!!!

>gaptoothedpigwithafancyhat.jpg
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>>8419339
It's bad capitalism to be this tactless, where would any decent company be if they attached such unwarranted arrogance to their services?
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>>8419342
The manner he is saying is does not matter. At best, you can argue that it can potentially damage his likelihood of getting customers, but you aren't arguing that. You're simply dismissing his worth.

He has services and time he can provide for a price, the manner he tells his customers to fuck off has no relevance in this situation.
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>>8419343
the most retarded moment of /lit/

the board bullied a girl that made videos about books she liked because of her mother influence and stuff like that
she later closed her channel and posted on her blog about how sad she was about this situation, somebody will post the screencap eventualy

>>8419356
go to bed Cliff
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>>8419356
how many times do I have to repeat myself? I never once said he doesn't provide a service.

Also, the situation is that he is being shit on. I've been saying that the manner in which he composed himself is the main reason for that, how is that irrelevant?

Now do you have anything interesting to say or are you just a bank of endless meaningless rhetoric?

I'm starting to think that you're the boring one.
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>>8419354
That's his problem. Don't collectively attribute his sales pitch to every company as the standard to evaluate him. He values telling upfront his services, the manner it is told does not matter except for people interested in his services. Unless, of course, you're a parasite looking for a free hand out for him to spend his time reading your book/work for free.

>I value your talent as being shit
>therefore, your services should be free, which is the value of shit
>be altruistic and spend all your time examining people's works for free!
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>>8419356
Cliff could you review Atlas Shrugged next? I've always wanted to see what the big stink was but never wanted to waste the time reading it. I I trust your opinion will do it justice.
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>>8419356
>At best, you can argue that it can potentially damage his likelihood of getting customers

see
>>8419354
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>>8419368
You've taken the role as the great defender of capitalism in this thread though, I'm just saying that this video is an example of bad capitalism, but now I'm starting to think you may be the shill sergeant himself.
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>>8419250
>This isn't a capitalism issue.
Speak for yourself
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>>8419372
That's just Universality drivel.
>if every company acted this tactless, nothing would be sold!
How every other company values itself and does their own sales pitch is up to themselves, not the collective.
He gave his own pitch on what he valued foremost, which was bluntness and repeating that he will not give free handouts.
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>>8419368
it's more like
>I value your service as shit and find it hilarious how much you value it yourself
>I'm going to express that because it is the topic of this thread and a youtube comment section's purpose is viewers expressing themselves

you're over thinking this, shill sergeant
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>>8419368
>Unless, of course, you're a parasite looking for a free hand out for him to spend his time reading your book/work for free.

literally no one is arguing for this, but you have a funny way of insisting that this is the central issue
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>>8419383
>No, I like projecting strawmen so much that I'm going to make this into a capitalism argument
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>>8419343
>>8419360
I'm expecting you to pay for my effort in digging for this in my giant 4chan folder by placing $10+tip in my account, thx
I mean, I cannot afford to waste my time, I will need to get compensated for this. I'm not posting material on here for free. You HAVE TO pay me. Period.
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>>8419385
the feedback he's getting on his video is enough evidence that saying what he said in this way was a mistake
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>>8419383
>booktubers union
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>>8419395
Everything is a capitalism argument
Everything is ideology, Anon
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>>8419382
>I'm just saying that this video is an example of bad capitalism
You're simply using capitalism as a blanket collectivist term on how every company must act to its customers. I am simply saying that his hierarchy of values conveyed is that he wants to make it clear that he will not give hand outs, free samplings or for his time to be altruistically thrown away.

>>8419394
>literally no one is arguing for this
See >>8418631 and >>8418706 as well as OP implying that ''I will NOT do X ANYTHING for free. You HAVE TO pay me. Period'' is an outrageous demand.
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>>8419396
just remember this image kids everytime you enter a "patrician" thread on /lit/
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>>8419408
We're monsters.

How can we live with ourselves?
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>>8419398
Feedback is irrelevant unless they are his patreons or people interested in paying for his services. None of which were the target of his message of not giving free handouts.
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>>8419410
>>8419408
white knight pussy fags. go suck your nonexistent girlfriend's nipples fagpoop
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>>8419405
the people that don't want him being payed don't want him making videos at all, nobody has made the demand for free videos
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>>8419412
Cliff go to bed
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>>8419396
I was fully erect whilst reading this.
So long sweet girl, too pure for this internet.
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>>8419414
>the people that don't want him being payed don't want him making videos at all
How nosy of them.
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>>8419411
how do you know they weren't? we have to assume that most people that watched his video have some prior interest in him and were potential customers. His channel needs views and subscribers to grow and secure a stable paying customer pool.

You're losing at your own game, Rand/Cliff
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>>8419425
>how do you know they weren't?
You cannot prove a negative. How do you know they are?
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>>8419422
she's on lit these days, you know
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>>8419424
>using rand as the figure of capitalism

t. pseud
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>>8419432
>implying Ayn Rand isn't the face of capitalism.
Even Zizek admits to it.
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>>8419428
You're the one asserting a negative, namely that certain viewers were not the target (ones that have not payed yet or didn't even know that he reviewed the books of his viewers)

It's common sense to assume that people that have not payed for his services yet and remain undecided are the target audience for advertising said services.

poor show, ideologue
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>>8419440

>implying she's not the embarassment that communists point to when making capitalism out to be unfavourable
>taking zizek seriously

your pseud is showing again
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>>8419161
>>8419173
>>8419247
>>8419264
>>8419293
>>8419339
>>8419356
>>8419368
>>8419405
>>8419411
>>8419424
>>8419428
>reads atlas shrugged once
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To be honest, if idiots want to waste their hard-earned money on some cretin's "reviews", let them. I don't care about those idiots' money.
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>>8419442
How am I asserting a negative when I say that the only people who's feedback matters are those interested in the manner of his video are patreons and people interested in paying for his services?
What proof do you have that people bitching in his videos are those types of people?

>it's common sense
Self evidence and stating something to be obvious is not evidence.
Common sense is not an argument nor proof. Do you have evidence that an anonymous person is a person interested in his services?

>>8419449
Except when she was the most critical of marxism and communism, while all her arguments are still valid today. Describing the truth and idealization perfection of capitalism does not make it unfavorable.

>>8419452
>he doesn't read Atlas Shrugged completely every week

>>8419458
Vote with your wallet and money.
Bitch at the heavens when something free isn't given to you isn't the answer unless you're a person without money, looking for a handout.
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>>8419405
In itself it is not outrageous, but the fact that he demands it so smugly, without certainty of response, and without any qualifications outside his shitty opinion makes it outrageous.
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>>8419396
these are the people that have "read" Tolstoy here
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>>8419471
sometime people need to go full wanton to relieve the stress
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I got lazy, went to check the comments on his youtube video and it's simply people praising his honesty or people remarking the irony of making a 14 minute video about not wasting time, ignoring the fact that giving a message of him not wasting time can be a good way in the future for him to not waste time reading emails of people asking for handouts.

All in all, that anon has nothing to show to prove that people in the youtube are people interested in his services and dismayed by his honesty.
The secondary reason is that if you TRULY wanted his opinion, you wouldn't care about his rudeness and honesty. An A for an A. Time for an examination of your work in exchange for money.

>>8419469
Something being outrageously does not make it wrong. It's simple honesty. He doesn't care about people asking for hand outs. People who will not support him financially and waste his time.
There is nothing wrong in the way he said it or what he said.
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>>8419492
>people interested in his services
people not* interested in his services
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>>8419429
Proof?
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>>8419499
IT'S COMMON SENSE
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>>8419465
>only people that want to pay are important
>convincing the neutral or uninformed to pay is not

do you even know what capitalism is?
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>>8419492
>people only want to pay him or not pay him
>there is no undecided section that he is supposed to convince in order to grow his career
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so I talked shit on his YouTube are any of you guys gonna join in. or are you toooooooo pussy.
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>>8419492
>there's no point in arguing if we don't take an opinion poll of the people that watched his video

I suppose the grand irony is that you and I have wasted our time
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>>8419513
Do you? Making profits is not the only purpose of capitalism.

>>8419523
The undecided is irrelevant if you do not care for them. The offer is there and if you think his talent and services are worth the money, you accept his services.
However, this is obviously depending on the values of a person. A person can value not caring about the undecided portion of an audience, or purposefully carefully try not to offend anyone that might be easily dissuaded from accepting services.

>>8419532
I get great joy using Ayn Rand and her views against /lit/. I find it worthy of my time.
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>>8419531
I already did

give him the tundra
>>8419152
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>>8419539
post a pic of it
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>>8419537
>ayn rand and her views
all you did was decry people's prescribed knee jerk reactions on the internet and ask for obviously unattainable evidence in a shitposting thread. We'll make a scholar out of you yet, anon.
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>>8419547
Thanks :D
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>>8419531
already did
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>>8419609
that was me dumbass. I'm /lit
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>>8419531
this could be the redemption /lit/ needed so much
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>>8419616
everyone's too pussy
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>>8419531
I left a nice response. If he responds to it I'll just say I was being ironic and call him a faggot.
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>"If they aren't within the first or second lines, I sent it back"
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>>8419667
lol righhht
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>>8418922
This. English isn't even his first language yet still has more to say than the nigga who, tbqh, is 26 going on 54 and a half. He looks like B. Cooper's asshair.
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>>8419612
Why did you only use one slash? Was "/lit/" taken?
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Support the Goblin Liberation
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>>8419689
The bookchemist has a degree in literature and he's doing a PhD.
It's expected that he will have more to say than betterthanfood.
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>>8418621
lmao
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>>8418922
I cant agree with this more. I used to like cliff but now hes just 'GIVE ME MONEY' while bookchemist stayed his humble old self
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>>8419717
The kicker tho is the English m8... broken English and all he's the man.
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>>8419681
I feel the same when it comes to thread. If no (You)s within 5 minutes of me posting, I just don't think I should bother with you unappreciative fucks.
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>>8418837
A REAL HUMAN BEAN AND A REAL HERO
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I don't know what the fuss is about, my sis does make-up crap on youtube.
I film and edit her videos for half the share and we have been asking for payment for any product reviews for the last 1,5 years.

Shit takes time and nobody wants a video of you saying a product is crap for X minutes.
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>>8419796
>Shit takes time
Yes, but you choose to do it. Noone forces you. It isn't work, it is a hobby. If people want to donate, fine. But feeling entitled to it is a whole other story.
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isn't he making youtube money already?
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>>8419878
silly anon
it's never enough, don't you know that? money can never get enough
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>>8419875
not him and not exactly arguing any particular way here but wouldn't that mean one can't turn a hobby into a viable living?
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>>8419875

For me and my sis it has become work, we both live solely off of it.
It's essentially advertising for companies.
It may just be crappy videos on yt but we provide a service for which companies are willing to pay.

I bet most youtubers with enough subs who do reviews or even just stuff have companies ship them products for free or bundled with some monetary bonus for a feature.

I think we have six of those hover boards now despite never reviewing or featuring them, one would send us 500 bucks if we only showed it in a vid.

YT is a brilliant business if you have enough subs and a niche.
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which one of you did this?
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>>8419875
>Nobody forced you to take up carpentry in your spare time. It isn't work, it is a hobby. Why should you expect people to pay you for a chair you built?
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>>8418742
You forgot
>sips coffee
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>>8419045
we wuz leejun n sheeit
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You guys are cucks. He saw a market, exploited a niche, put in hours to build a reliable fanbase, and is now using it to make money. He's a faggot leech and he has nothing to say about literature, but there's no reason to get mad about it except you're jealous you didn't have the gumption to do what he does yourself.
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>>8418837
Why sunglasses and black and white? Wearing sunglasses and holding a conversation is incredibly rude unless you're under some seriously bright sun and you feel like being a complete asshole. I can't see your eyes and the fact that it's black and white just let's me know why he's doing it: pretentiousness.

He must have gotten some bills in the mail and realized his book reviewing wasn't actually making any money. This video is panic mode to lash out at people.

>the people who watch my videos are the most interesting people in the world

ok.
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>Cliff Sergeant

Yeah a stupid fucking name seems about right.
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To be fair why would he read someones book and review it just because they asked since he could be reading some classic that is more likely to spark an interesting review.
Every /lit/ fag would be sending their shit to him if he did it for free.
should he really be doing everything for free or for youtube ad money which isn't that big when you have 10k subs and book review channel isn't gonna grow to have millions ever(especially if you don't review stuff that's aimed for teenage girls). Reading takes time too.

At least he is open and transparent about it. I get that he can come out as bit smug and self important but don't watch him if you don't like it.
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>>8421474
It's fucking stupid and you know it. He could have gotten the point across with 30 seconds to a minute.
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>>8421489
>He could have gotten the point across with 30 seconds to a minute.

Well I've seen he has said that he won't do it for free in several videos, and people apparently don't seem to get the message though, so sometimes you got to make it absolutely crystal clear to the retarded peoples.
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>>8421100
>he has nothing to say about literature

pretty much
>here's a classic that everybody says is great
>turns out that yes, it's a good book
>"the prose is great"
>not gonna tell you which translation i read though lmao because saying the prose is great doesn't have to mean anything ;))
>look at my scarf

this moron really just bought an expensive camera and that's all there is to his videos
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>>8421427
Reminds me of this gem
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>>8421489
true
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>>8421498
It is crystal clear in the first 30 seconds. The rest of the video is self indulgent shit. It's a pretty solid theme in everything this guy does.

It's not that he won't read peoples crap work for free. It's that he's a giant crybaby about it.
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>>8418621

the only good booktuber is bulletdeer but he seems fucking dead again
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>>8421511
>It is crystal clear in the first 30 seconds

Yeah and you don't have to watch longer than that. You can literally turn off the video.

You're the one who is a whining faggot tbqhfam.
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>>8421525
That doesn't invalidate the critique, Cliff. Take off your sunglasses and get off that ivory tower. Say what you have to say and then fuck off, especially if you're asking for money.
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Watched his 2666 review, ten minutes long and it consisted of him talking about how much he likes Bolaño and Bolaño's background for four minutes, a four minute synopsis of 2666 (in which he skips the The Part about Amalfitano), and two minutes of him recommending the book, during which he says that Bolaño is the perfect gateway to Latin American literature because he breaks all the rules of Latin American literature. At no point does he say anything the least bit insightful about the book, and this is something he claims to have read multiple times.

Youtube videos about books are like Goodreads reviews that use gifs, they have either failed to grasp the power of the written word or are incapable of using it. Doesn't necessitate that it will be crap, but the odds are stacked in favor of that outcome.
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>>8421532
>Say what you have to say and then fuck off

He has. In several videos I've seen. And yet he has to make another video explaining it in greater detail because retards gonna retard.
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>>8421536
>Goodreads reviews that use gifs

I fucking hate that. His reviews are wikipedia deep. I don't think that's necessarily a terrible thing but he puts on a such level of ostentation that it's just silly when you hear what he says. He films a review in the snow sipping coffee and reading lines of poetry...
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>>8421546
>it's because the dumb people don't get it

Then why the fuck would they get it after a 14 minute video? They won't. He just wants to talk about how important he is. Pure self-indulgence.

Do what every person does when they get unsolicited messages. IGNORE THEM.

>inb4 hurr then y u no ignore video?
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How much money do you think he even makes? I seriously doubt he makes much with only 10k subscribers. He's probably a trust fund brat.
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>best thing I've ever done
lulz

And he's talking about Ayn Rand in the comment section too now. Hi Cliff! Always knew you browsed /lit/
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>>8418922
you mean the black ponderer

https://www.youtube.com/user/theblackponderer
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>>8421597
I don't know how much he gets from patreon, but he is not making youtube money.
Youtube pays ~1 dolar for 1000 views. Most of his videos have 1XXX views, so we can tell that most of his subscribers are not watching his videos.
For reference, h3h3 has 2 million subscribers, and most of their videos have around 1.5 million views. Meanwhile betterthanfood has 10 thousand subscribers, with ~1 thousand people watching his videos.
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>>8421606
Yeah it seems pretty obvious. I'm listening to his "Interview" and his most influential author is Stephen King. Everything this dude says is just oozing desperation.

>>8421624
He gets like $100 per book review according to his Patreon. You're right about the 10k subs not watching his vids though which is interesting. I think that has a lot to do with the length and lack of content relevant to the books in his reviews.
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>>8421624
Is there anything more pathetic than contributing to someone's pateron? This isn't the goddamn Renaissance where you sponsor artists.
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>>8421624
>h3h3
I feel like it should be trendy to hate them on 4chan, but I really don't. It's a little silly but ultimately quite enjoyable.
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>>8421634
I just wonder who these people are. I know noone I could imagine doing this. Who are these supporter?
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>>8421636
I really wanted to hate h3h3 but it's not that terrible. I don't really like their videos but it's not desperate or just shit. Had the same thoughts on Sam Hyde until I listened to some of his talks and an interview with him on TND. Most people are just doing what they find funny and sharing it with people.

This book review shit is just hipster pomp. Cliff liked TND BEFORE Death Grips. That's how fucking original he is.
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>>8421636
I know. It's hard to hate them on 4chan because they're close to 4chan. Those two managed to make a living making fun of other videos that are full of bullshit.
I don't like many of their videos, but some of them can be funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIY0wwQdWI
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/lit/ is dead.
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>>8421658
I guess it's just because it got a bit too meta, too memeing. The cough thing, papa bless XD, etc. I feel like it started out post-ironic and now it's barely not ironic at all anymore.
But I guess that's just kinda what happens when you go mainstream and more kids follow you and so on.

>>8421660
fuck off cliff
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>>8421658
that was fun

ethan MUST have browsed 4chan at some point
have we gotten this confirmed?
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>>8421660
Please, do go on.
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>>8421660
yeah well, well.. ur sexual life is dead lmao

https://youtu.be/h232bilq8eQ
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>>8421536
dude you forget that part about his short movie based on Bolaño's short story. Btw, that short movie is absolutely terrible.
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>>8421700
Yeah, didn't watch it, but when he mentioned that he had gone to film school his pretentious affectations somehow became even more boring and cliché.
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>>8421669
I think he became famous making fun of youtube trends like feeding the homeless, kissing pranks, don't judge me challenge, etc. It looks like he is trying to break with that guy, maybe because he got bored, or maybe because he's running out of youtube trends.

Most of his stuff is just silly. I found some of them funny like this one about modern art, but that's just because I hate Pollock and I have spent quite a while complaining about it against my very modern peers in aesthetic class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7ez-gIt08I
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Well, at least he's honest.
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>>8421723
>not getting pollock

Sure it's nice not to be a pleb
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>>8421723
>I hate Pollock
wew look at this plebeian
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>>8421727
Honesty isn't a virtue on it's own, that's fucking retarded
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>>8421744
It reminds me of that guy who got assmad because his huge sculpture of a dragon lost to one of a man fellating himself
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>>8421755
>huge sculpture of a dragon
Sounds cringe-worthy

Why do plebs think art is just about what takes the most effort/is the "prettiest"? That's not good art, never has been.
Similarly I find fedoras seem to think things like ballet is essentially gymnastics and it's about making the most advanced technical jumps. And when they're not doing those "advanced jumps" they're just like "man I don't get it they're just like walking around??? :S".

Is it because autistic people have trouble understanding abstract concepts and complexity? Serious question.
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>>8421729
There is no discipline nor rules of any kind in his "art". It is the cause having now hordes of talent-less people, like Pollock, they can make art too, aiming at merely the shock value of a piece, whether it is against art itself (like Pollock, who certainly could not create art under traditional standards) or at politics as most people right now.

I have tried many times to find out why Pollock is good, and not surprisingly, people cannot give anything but vague words that could be applied to anything.

I don't think all modern art is bad, but I still have to find someone that gives me good reason to appreciate Pollock random ramblings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc
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>>8421770
it was indeed cringy. He posted it across several board and we were one of the few who called out on his stupidity.
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>>8421771
and he isn't joking about the rock.
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>>8421771
Oh boy, speak of the devil

t. >>8421770

Why don't you post Repin's "Ivan the Terrible" too? His eyez r so intense, wew. Or Friedrichs "Wanderer above the Sea of Fog"? it's so awesome, totally would have been me if i was born 200 years ago, male power xD
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>>8421771
There are so many things wrong with that video, my god.
Firstly he has no idea how the art market works. And basically all of his arguments can be boiled down to "muh pink floyd". Fuck off. T
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>>8421770
it's because most people are illiterate fucks that fail at abstraction, nuance and contextualisation. it's not only fedoras on 4chan that believe modern art is "something my 5 yo nephew could pull off"

autists and aspergers are just particularly bad at grasping the "grey area" that lies between two opposite statements or positions
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>>8421771
Speaking of, does anyone have an epub of Pollock's biography? I would be eternally grateful.
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>>8421770
>Why do plebs think art is just about what takes the most effort/is the "prettiest"? That's not good art, never has been.
It has always been, and still is.
When there is no rule following nor any standards whatsoever to the production of art the very concept of art vanishes, and we end with what we have today, "art" is whatever is put in a museum or considered art by the institutions.

Most modern art is just like slam poetry. None of them have the talent to produce art, so they produce whatever they can do even if it's complete and absolute crap, and then they demand their art should be appreciated and nobody understands it (funnily enough, without stating what is that people don't understand).

>>8421816
>it's because most people are illiterate fucks that fail at abstraction, nuance and contextualisation.
Alright. I'll take the bait. Pic related is Convergence by Pollock. Tell me about what we get of the painting by means of abstraction, nuance, and contextualization.
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>>8418674
>*action*
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>>8421771
>>8421723
And will you now post that video of Paul Joseph Watson?
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>>8421755
>>8421770
>majored in art history
>hates symbolism
>posts on /k/
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>>8418880
>give him views
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>>8421771
that video is horrid

"art reduced to personal expression". like that's a bad thing fuckwit

>>8421828
you forgot the image. but since I'm no expert on Pollock nor his context I'm in no position to produce an opinion. that's my point altogether.
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>>8421832
the sculpture of the man fellating himself is a piece of shit too. My 5-year old cousin could have done that in one morning.

>it is a symbol!
Of what? And even if it is, it is no excuse of the for the general ugliness of the whole. Boucher is making a symbol of Blonde Odalisque against the traditional school of art, and he sacrificed no discipline to make a point.
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>>8421846
>you forgot the image. but since I'm no expert on Pollock nor his context I'm in no position to produce an opinion. that's my point altogether.
There are no experts in modern art. The art expert vanishes when art is reduced to personal expression.
And yes, it is a bad thing.
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>>8418621
>pay me as if I were a professional lol
>i might not even review it though teehee :)

is this guy for real?
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>>8421883
yes, it's the free market. If you don't think that's a good deal, don't give him your money.
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>>8421905
Of course I won't. I am not a tool to pay a booktuber $50 an hour to read my work *that he might not even review for me*. Lmao.
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>>8421866
>it is a bad thing
y
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>>8421905
>yes, it's the free market.
And isn't that just fucking despicable.
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>>8421866
u wot mate
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>>8421922
The free market has its beauty, much like a child with down syndrome.
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>>8421624
oh wtf my bloodmeme review has 1000 views. where can I collect my dollar?
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>>8421936
You need to activate youtube ads before you get the views.
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>>8419682
I am happy to say that I accomplished my mission.
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>>8421963
can't find it; screenshot?
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>>8421952
oh shit it's almost at 2000 views. how the fuck do I do that?
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>>8421978
Sorry, I forgot to post the cap.
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>>8421999
meh, could have gone without the lols.

Besides, I think he has deleted the comment from the guy with the /lit account name
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>>8422005
He actually deleted his response to my comment. He is lurking the comment section as we speak.
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>>8421983
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/72857
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/94522?hl=en
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>>8422012
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
oh my god the insecurity is showing.
*sips glass of vodka* but i thought *cries a bit* I thought they like me *stares vacantly in the distance*
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>>8418621
https://twitter.com/BksBtrThnFood/following

>breitbart
>donald trump
>sargon of akkad
>justicar

wow cliff is redpilled as fuck
>>
The whole thing would be fine if he just guaranteed to email the people or even offer private Skype sessions with the writers of the books he's being paid to review.
>>
I can help but feel superior whenever I watch him. This is a grown ass man trying to live off of making shitty book reviews on YouTube. I'm only 22 and am making more money than he does and will soon be making much, much more when I get my CPA license.
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>>8422063
Can't help*
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>>8422063
Yeah and you're a fucking accountant m8

t. political economics major master race
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>>8422037
his time is too valuable for that
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>>8422087
Good luck doing anything with that meme degree.
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>>8422098
Important governmental work or pursing an honorable academic career.

Meanwhile you'll die of boredom and meaninglessness before you hit your 30s
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>>8422109
Seriously, good luck with that. Poli-sci/Econ degrees sure are scarce.

I'm in corporate tax and am working full-time with the Big 4 this spring. It's far from boring.
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>>8422119
>I'm in corporate tax
>far from boring

uh huh lad
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>>8422127
Transfer pricing, bro.
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>>8422133
I literally yawned reading this post.
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>>8422012
I can't find this comment. I also can't find the /lit/ account's comment anymore.
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>>8421658
he actually has a degree in english lit
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>>8422012
his time sure is valuable :^)
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>>8422028

Uneducated white guy.
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>>8422119

>Big 4
>far from boring
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>>8422212
I didn't expect that. Just googled it

>Ethan studied English Literature at the University of California, Santa Cruz. He worked as a marketing executive in Israel.
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>>8419247
>>8419264
>>8419293
>>8419339
>>8419356
>>8419368


Kill yourself you fucking retards
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>>8422212
>>8422242
>major in english lit
>end up having to become a youtube memester to put food on the table

seems legit
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>>8422278
He quit his job because of youtube. They should make 1500 dollars per video, which is not bad at all.
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>>8422292
Well his degree didn't help him, he'd make 1500 regardless if he had a giant student debt or not
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>>8422335
>he'd make 1500 regardless

You don't know that lol
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>>8422028
He's definitely /ourguy/
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>>8419299
Not wanting to play the devil's advocate but you do understand the concept of 'making a living' off something requires the payment of some undisclosed sum of money for said service. Harold Broom surely does not and did not work for free. Mr. Harold Bloom is also a hack
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>>8422068
KEK
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>>8423075
what this all boils down to is some people don't think he should be getting money for the time he puts up for sale because they dislike him. His time is of no value to them because he's a hack, even though somebody out there may derive value from him and take him up on that offer it's still seen as wrong.
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CAN WE RAID THIS FAGGOT IN THE NAME OF KATIE WHO WE WRONGED FOR THE LULZ AND JUST FUCKING RAPE THIS GUY FOR THE LULZ BECAUSE IS FUNNY RAAAAAAIDDDD
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>>8423459
nigger they are just gonna be like "no personal army". they don't even do funny shit anymore.
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>>8423463
You just have to ask nicely.
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>>8423469
>>8423469
maybe they'll do it if they find out how we fucked over katie. this whole episode could go down on a best of /lit/ screen cap - just imagine, you anon, might post it one day and receive a chuckle. yes u were there
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>>8423469
>>8423469
fine write me a personal army request and I'll ask.
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>>8419709
Nobody is doing the goblin liberation
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How does one live off of this? I don't think I could do it.
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>>8423486
see
>>8419709
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>>8423514
just tell him how shit he is off a reviewer on his channel. that's all you have to do.
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>>8418742
Is that the Min Kamp one?
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