chart thread
no scrubs
>>8416306
What is the point about creating a flowchart if it has only one fucking way to follow it?
>>8416298
>No Vaclav Havel
>No Konstantin Ildefyons Galczyinski
>No Georg Buchner
>No Christopher Fry
>Paula Vogel
trash list desu senpai
t. actor
>>8416331
so that you know what order to read them in you scrub
if you want more than one pathway, just skip everything that comes before the second reading of Lolita
>>8416298
>no strindberg
i'm UPSET
>>8416306
Is it okay to read Ada, or Ardor immediately after Lolita?
http://imgur.com/a/8qD0k
>>8416436
No, you could end up being arrested. It's better to follow the chart.
>>8416360
I´d include some Bolaño novellas too. Like Distant Star
Any Korean charts?
any one know of a chart relating to hinduism and india, id be very interested
>>8416301
Can someone who's only read around ten books start with "V."?
>>8417826
No. V can be more confusing than Gravity's Rainbow desu
>>8417841
That's a shame, oh well.
Either give me some kind of chart for japanese literature or get shot senpai!
>>8418995
Check the wiki, you lazybones.
>>8416337
You can add them to it, anon. These charts are on the wiki, which is supposed to be a community effort.
The recs for the theater ones were made by a theater student fyi. I don't know if he's still around.
>>8416298
a streetcar named desire was trash
fuk u dudes ur all scrubs
>>8420047
silly
>>8420102
glass menagerie was fine
>>8416301
>>8420645
sun also rises should be near the end of the list.
The old man and the sea should be number 1
>>8420705
lmao
I'd love to see a chart for a nice plot through the main school of Existentialism. I'm kind of just picking up scattered pieces.
>>8420650
I still believe it is essential to read the letter he wrote to his father before anything else. Many of his fears that relate to his father can be found in his works.
Anyone got a chart to Russian Literature?
>>8421101
>>8421402
The chart is applicable to every author as well.
>>8416301
Colonialism-themed books do not interest me in the least. That's why I didn't like Heart of Darkness.
>>8421609
Every pill is a parody of the /pol/ 'red pill' (in case you don't know: it's a reference to the movie The Matrix). Ironically, the /pol/ 'red pill' most of the time only teaches racist ideology which only serves to further obscure reality, rather than bring about any sort of enlightenment. This means that the /pol/ red pill is itself a perversion of the original concept, a parody, making all other pills parodies of a parody.
It is a great example of a pervasive type of post-irony quite popular on 4chan.
>>8420617
Yeah fuck this chart dude. V isn't a good place to start. Inherent Vice and Bleeding Edge are vastly different, BE is like a weaker version of the rest of his stuff and IV is like a mini-pynchon. Vineland is not his weakest at all, it's certainly way better than BE, and imo better than IV and AtD as well. The commentary is also pretty sparse. I'm no expert but I felt forced to make that other one specifically becase I hated this one and the other one that's been drifting around, where the person who made it said they didn't even read Vineland.
>>8417823
pale fire is a breeze desu
>>8421714
It's not even remotely a defining aspect of the novel. The guy who made the chart is just a lefty pseud who wanted to signal to fellow lefty pseuds that V. won't puncture the echochamber
>>8421673
What did he mean by this
>>8416306
improved somewhat
>>8422600
fuck you that's not what I meant
you're right, it's not totally defining, but it's a very overt serious political message of a kind that's uncommon in Pynchon's other work, which is why I mentioned it
>>8422767
>Caring this much about colonialism
Don't you have some liberal arts classes to attend?
Is there any chart or infographic such a starter kit for genre fiction plebs to become /lit/?
who?
>>8420645
why doesn't men without women get any love? it's his best work
Where's the sci-fi novella chart?
is there a comfy chart? Winesburg Ohio, Dubliners, etc
>>8423105
I'm not even talking about colonialism, I'm talking about whether or not the theme of colonialism in V. is significant. That's one example of the kind of thing we do in the study of literature, which is a totally different field than liberal arts, not that STEM fags like you can tell.
>>8416298
>http://airshipdaily.com/blog/07222014-reading-public
that is not a guide, just a list
>>8420705
/lit/ in a nutshell
>>8416301
why do i get the feeling the author of this chart has only read the two first novels listed
>>8424698
Because you're a faggot.
>>8416298
Shit, you just reminded me to re-read Joe Orton's work, thanks. I'll start with A Prick Up Your Ears to get comfy with though, I reckon.
>>8417823
Nova Express isn't hard at all. If any Burroughs work is then it's probably Ticket That Exploded
>>8422762
way too complicated, dude.
>>8416298
>no fiddler on the roof
fuck outta here
>>8420617
Shit, is the black and white penguin GR really worth avoiding?
>>8416316
This is gold
any other translation charts?
>>8423240
there's a few /lit/ starter kits or /lit/ entry level ones, check the wiki
>>8426570
second one
>>8424698
this basically, the descriptions for M&D are so fucking retarded, shallow and inane
>>8426570
first one
Any 21st century /lit/ chart?
>>8426503
Maybe when it was first published under the Penguin Deluxe series, but I think it's fine now.
>>8426570
the third one
>>8426544
>Heaney as only option gor Beowulf
Still hoping for a Korean chart.
>>8423652
Wish there was.
Cannery Row is maximum comfy, check it out if you haven't.
>>8421099
Good post
>>8420651
no hardboiled wonderland? also books 1 & 2 of the rat, though 1 was shit anyway theyre only short and probably want shoehorning in somewhere at least
Anybody have that chart that starts with the Golden Bough and goes to Mircea Eliade after that?
>>8429540
Did it also have Jung and Campbell on it? If so I am looking for it as well.
>>8430257
Yep that's the one
>>8416301
Every category makes you feel like an asshole for even thinking about choosing to read from it. Has anyone ever fucking read Against the Day and lived to recall a single indication as to what it might have been about?
>>8416306
where is The Eye?
philosophy chart anyone?
>>8431742
>Atlas Shrugged
>above Faulkner, Ulysses, Candide, Grapes of Wrath, Nausea, Catch-22, Brave New World and fucking Hamlet
>falling for the libertarian meme this hard
>>8426544
Jesu Christ don't lure people into reading Heaney's Beowulf. At least warn them. Also P&V for Dosto and Tolstoy?
This chart is trash but I think whoever follows this deserves to be misguided as it's obvious he didn't google shit.
>>8416298
>post things that are in the sticky
kys
>>8431810
Pseuds and contrarians bitch about P&V, actual Russian speakers tend to say it's best, or at least one of the better translations of a given work.
>>8431815
Not going to argue this again. This comes up every fucking day.
Use Google. That's it.
Is there a /lit/ chart for Zweig?
>>8431815
I'm a native Russian speaker and p&v are viewed as trash here
>>8431742
Grapes of Wrath was a shit book and deserves a tier below shit
>>8421767
lol u mad
>>8431782
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic
>>8417854
just read it you pussy
>>8431857
no, but there should be
Does anyone have an Italian literature one? I'm aware of their medieval poetry and political philosophy. I also got some ideas from their neorealism movement
can someone post an idea or genre, and i'll see if i can make something for it? i'm too drunk to think creatively right now.
>>8420634
i'm not camus' biggest fan (though he's far better than sartre, to be sure), but goddamn if this isn't one of the best-styled and accurate /lit/ flowcharts i've come across.
>>8431742
>100 years of solitude low tier
>I OBSCENITY ON THE MILK high tier
sure boy
>>8416306
Is there same guide for Somerset Maugham?
>>8417823
>sot-weed factor
>hard
>>8420636
What order should I read plato before getting to the republic? Chronologically?
>>8432688
thanks mate, very comprehensive
How do I into stoicism?
>>8431815
Russian here, P&V is trash.
Is there a virgi ia woolf chart?
>>8426018
good luck actually reading Nabokov then
>>8435189
dude, the chart is way too confusing.
Why are there books left out, depending if I start at I. or II.?
>>8431742
>atlas shrugged
>any tier
>>8435189
You really think you can't just pick a book and read it not following any kind of chart or something like that, don't you?
>>8416298
you know nothing about theater
why do you even bother posting a theater list
post a list of novels or poetry or philosophy or whatever
nothing by bernhard, fosse, strauss, no one
your contemporary plays are bullshit like mark ravenhill
do you even have an interest in theater
other than the fact that it is literature and you are a person who loves literature
>>8426471
>Musical Theatre
You can get out anytime
>B-but Threepenny Opera is on the list
It's a play with music.
>>8435359
>bernhard, fosse, strauss
Give recs for these pls.
>>8418017
magic? How are there so many books on something so fake?
>>8416298
What are the plays on the chart?
>>8436244
I meant best plays on the chart?
>>8431578
excluded, as are many others
>>8416316
>Mexican intellectuals
>>8416316
That's actually a pretty good chart
>>8432904
>Camus
>better than Sartre
Holy what
>>8438028
Shut up, Bolaño, you're dead