Is there a /lit/ iceberg chart?

there is but I con't find it in my /lit/ folder

>>8400456
You only ascend if you've read George's writings

Why don't we create one right now?

>>8400456
>OP creates b8 /lit/ depth chart
>spends the next year making threads asking for someone else to post it
>this desperate for ego validation on an anonymous cambodian temple chanting imageboard

one of the most consistent and transparent samefagging attempts on this board desu

In the Realms of the Unreal should be on the bottom if it does get made.

>>8400734
w-what the fuck am i reading anon

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>>8400456
>no morgellons disease

>>8400456
even normies know the clintons are murderers

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>>8400456
Yeah, but some faggots here say its shit

>>8400918
So basically all you gotta do is own a copy of Finnegan's Wake and you're at the bottom

>>8401026

It's not about just owning a copy of the book. It's about understanding it.

>>8401032
The only one who ever did was Joyce

>>8401040

That's the point you pleb

>>8400918
Am a faggot. Can confirm.
It's shit.

>>8401026
hahaha you have to be a degenerate to appreciate anything by joyce. well, first you have to become learned, and then choose degeneracy from that position, you have to be always overcoming yourself, that is if you really want to get the sense of joyce. you have to expose your body to some rough shit at some point too, privation, starvation, alcohol abuse, you need to suffer.

fucking lol at the literal children who assume they can just stroll into the most bizarre orgies of literature and understand what they are seeing without holding a real stake in it.

>>8401060
what did you say

>>8401060
t. drunk bum

>muh suffering

these charts will always suck because 4chan creative boards are inhabited by people with very surface level knowledge of their respective mediums and at best have knowledge of something super niche that they think is 'bottom of iceberg endgame of medium' and nobody else gives a fuck about

>>8401104
>joyce
>'super niche'

>>8401109
i wasn't referring to anything specifically. to call joyce the be all end all is more the first category though, superficial knowledge

>>8401119
found the pleb

>>8400918
I'm getting really tired of this 'genre fiction lacks substance' meme.

>>8401127
Post ONE [1] genre fiction title with some substance.

>>8401142
The Transmigration of Timothy Archer

>>8401148
>burgerlit

nope, try again

>>8401119
Tarmac on the floor, slam the door. What are you waiting for?! Get down on the floor and kneel on all fours. Copulate with a wild boar. Devoured by a carnivore. Now, that's a score, aint it Johnny?!

>>8401148
Based PKD shouldn't be considered genre fiction.

>>8401142
Dhalgren

>>8401158
The rare work of fiction that leaps beyond its genre origins and becomes something better. Delaney is between level 3 and 4 on the chart anyhow

>>8401040
I'm not even sure he did.

>>8401157

>muh no true Scotsman

just deal w/it

>>8400456
why is AI controlling the world so far down? as if it's that unlikely? AI just about controls the world now as we speak and it's not a secret to anyone

>>8400918
jrr tolkein the godfather of modern fantasy lacking any semblance of substance, sure its standard fare now but imagine reading that in the 50s

>>8401867

(((AI)))

>>8400918
This list is very imprecise. There are writers all the way down that are fairly accessible. And reading Joyce is so enjoyable that it isn't a feeling of horror of your ignorance that you experience, it's more joy that this great man is sharing his whole mind with you.

>>8400918
should put ayn rand or john green at the very bottom

>>8400918
QUESTION

How many of you have actually read 10% of these authors or more? I mean, although I read everyday I've only read around 3 or 4 of these authors. Most of these I don't even know

>>8400918
Not bad really.

>>8401119
So then Mister I'm so self aware, what book is deep enough to go below Finnegan's Wake on this chart

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>>8400840
Jokes on you anon you motherfucker, I was not planning on sleeping tonight anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4oNn1rSq3A

>>8402281
>being 16
underage b&

>>8402510
My diary desu

>>8402510
The Voynich Manuscript

>>8400918
The chart pretty much only shows how difficult these authors are to read, not really the quality of their works. E.g. Stephen King is a better writer than Franzen (no joke) even though his novels are pretty much literary fast food

Overall interesting chart though

>>8400456
>you have to be weird to suspect pedowood
I think it's pretty goddamn obvious to anybody who's looked for longer than 5 minutes. Cory Feldman says that MICHAEL JACKSON was the only adult in his life who DIDN'T abuse him. What the fuck does that tell you?

>>8402281
I'll bite anon, even if it's just to give to the impression /lit/ actually reads.
Of this list i've read works of :
King
Bukowski
Murakami
Tokien
Ellis
Kerouac
Huxly
Conrad
Camus
Hemingway
Maupassant
Pasternak
Hesse
Marquez
Burroughs (only Naked Lunch tho)
Delillo
Saramago
Wilde
McCarthy
Dostoevsky
Tolstoy
Mishima
DFW (reading IJ now)
Kafka
Nabokov (only Lolita and The Enchanter)
Faulkner
Calvino
Melville
Gogol
Bolaño
Borges
Eco
Pynchon
Beckett
Joyce (only read Dubliners and Portrait tho).

I know like 70 to 80% of the writers on the chart.
So yeah. That's it.

>>8400456
that looks like it came off /pol/, if it were /lit/ wittgenstein would be at the bottom

>>8400918
>joyce at the very bottom
how trite

>>8401142
the poetry of william blake

>>8402882
voynich manuscript has been solved, just a personally created slavic alphabet, which was not uncommen in that time. not obscure at all

why is Women and Men so fucking expensive?
has it not been reprinted ever?

>>8403908
>another pleb who's too dumb for joyce

>>8402281
Wasn't bait
Wew, I guess I need to read way more. The only ones there hat I've read are: Dostoevsky(4 of his books and a short story) Gogol, Orwell, Tolkien, Bradbury,Tolstoy (War and Peace),Kafka, and Proust

>>8400918
accurate in some respects, awful in others.

Sartre, Chekov, Eliot and some others should be deeper down

Gass, beckett, kafka shouldn't be that low

some need better splitting of their work, like pynchon

>>8403977

It's out of print. Supposedly a reprint is coming out soon though

>>8403977
I found a copy on ebay recently for like 80 bucks or so buy it now or best offer. You could try to lowball the guy.

>>8400918
Why is Murakami so high? I thought his literature was considered pretty weird and esoteric.

>>8403952

Source?

>>8403868

That Cory Feldman is off his meds

>>8401663

What?

>>8403889
How old are you and how much do you read per day?

>>8403952
Link plox

>>8402281
I've read 7 and I don't even read that nuch

git gud

>>8404325
>tfw only 43/?
Why live

>>8402281
Dude, the authors I didn't read in that list weren't read because I was reading something else.

Not being at least informed on some of those authors works shouldn't be anything of note for your typical il/lit/erate

>>8404985
This was made back when /lit/ was new and we had a couple Murakami threads every day.

>>8405011
t. Dan Schneider

We all know that the real Hannah Montana is buried in nevada.

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>>8403952
Lies. Why is there nothing about this anywhere?

Voynich manuscript is just as obscure as it was a hundred years ago.

>>8400456
I'm unironically at level 2.

>>8402281
Let's see, I've read at least one work from each of these authors
King
Bukowski
Orwell
Tolkien
Carver
Kerouac
Huxley
Capote
Conrad
Camus
Hemingway
Fitzgerald
Sartre
Marquez
Hesse
Chekhov
Burroughs (early)
DeLillo (early)
Bocaccio (didn't finish The Decamerone tho)
Burgess
McCarthy
Dostoevsky
Tolstoy
David Foster Wallace
Sterne
Kafka
Faulkner
Hamsun
Gogol
Cortázar
Borges
Eco
Pynchon
Lowry
Perec
Marinetti
Queneau
Joyce (middle era)

>>8405007
>>8405389
>>8406966

http://stephenbax.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Voynich-a-provisional-partial-decoding-BAX.pdf

they getting started

>>8403889
I'm 20, and i read about 40 to 70 pages a day, almost every single day. Been doing this for about two years.
I read King, Huxly and Tolkien when i was a kid tho.

>>8405052
Woops this>>8407125
was meant for you.

>>8400918
Kafka should be lower than the first Nabokov by a decent amount (he isn't a particularly easy read at deeper levels where you're not commenting on "father figures" or "allegory" or some shit), and Nabokov was a fucking plen. Late Nabokov is also too low.

Pynchon is too high.

>>8400918
Is this an approximate order for how to proceed as a literary neophyte?

>>8400456
The Mandela Effect is real though. It used to be Berenstein Bears, it used to be Looney Toons, it used to be Kit-Kat, it used to be "Mirror mirror on the wall."

Reality is changing around us. At this point I'm convinced that reality is simulated, and these are alterations in the code.

>>8407627
just unreliable memory and subconscious linguistic assumptions

>>8407755
I know. While some of the endemic confabulations reveal something interesting about the way memory works, I was parodying its subscribers, though Poe's law has a culmination here.

What does the star mean?

>>8401127
It lacks substance tho.

>>8401040
>old Irish grandparents love Joyce because Ireland
>They talk about Finnegans Wake like it's just another book
>describe it "being like a river"

I haven't read any Joyce yet. I need to catch up so I can talk to them about it.

>>8407627
>it used to be Looney Toons
It absolutely never was, I remember because my father pointed that out and said "The first of these were all made around original musical compositions" when I was like five.

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What's your favourite book theory?

The whole idea of Iceberg charts is pure ideology and you should be ashamed of yourself if you take any of it seriously.

>>8408185
Chill out. It's a meme.

>>8408259
Ideology is a meme. He shoulda also said
>ishygddt

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>>8408185

>>8400734
>you will never have the original tomes

>>8402281
i've read a pretty similar number to >>8403889 and >>8407048


mine:

Coehlo
Bradbury
Orwell
Atwood
Tolkein
Kerouac
Vonnegut
Austen
Huxley
Capote
Eliot
Conrad
Camus
Hemingway
Steinback
Fitzgerald
Maupassant
Greene
Hesse
Marquez
Burroughs
Dumas
Amis
Saramago
Wilde
Pushkin
Bocaccio
McCarthy
Dickens
Dostoevsky
Swift
Tolstoy
Kafka
Nabokov
Faulkner
Cervantes
Calvino
Melville
Gogol
Borges
Eco
Pynchon
Woolf
Queneau
Beckett
Theroux
Joyce
the chart looks sort-of-ok-ish to me. Everyone will disagree on placings and omissions. For example: King is on there but not Lem?
… and where the hell is Rabelais? Flaubert? Maturin? … ok the more I think about it the worse the chart it

>>8400918
Where is Joyce's early period ? It should be somewhere between Dostoyevsky and Kafka. Also, Pynchon should be down near Joyce's middle period. Also this chart is obvious garbage since it doesn't even have Shakespeare.

>>8400918
I looked it up and Julian Rios is a porn actor.

>>8408448
>Pynchon
Autistic
Bradbury's shit


Joyce is a pleasant read but what's so special about him? I only read Ulysses

>>8408479
>Shakespeare
It's a list of Novelists.

>>8409195
Nah mane, he's a writer from Galicia, Spain

Am I the only one on this board who enjoys Faulkner's work.

>>8409250
Nabokov fanboys will hate him just because he did, but a lot of us like him. The Sound and the Fury is easily one of the best novels of the 20th century.

>>8409241
Ur moms a writer from Galicia, Spain

>>8409238
Then why is Young on there ?