how does literature inform you taste in cinema?

cinema is an inferior medium

Reminder that all of Stanley Kubrick's movies were book adaptations.

/mu/ movies are more entry level faggotry like Frank or Whiplash instead of mememovies for pseudo-indie kids

I read Philsophy. I read Philosophy of Cinema. I read (worthwhile) directors' books and manifestoes. You kind of pick it up on what you like if you keep doing it.

But if this is a question about those movies I've seen because of something I've read/I appreciated because of what I've read, here's a few:

>Stan Brakhage's Filmography
Yes, kind of run of the mill but Metaphors on Vision was great, and the way he "gave his films away" as nomadic little proxies for the autonomous creation of meaning is pretty good. Also, they are incredibly compelling to watch.

>The Blair Witch Project
I wrote at length about how this movie is, for me, one of the very few interesting depiction of the (Lovecraftian) Other as something that influences human-seen reality with actions and ethics (Cthulhuoid Ethics, Reza Negarestani calls them) we can at most build scared, noumenic rituals around. Only movies that even come close are Noroi (and Cult/Occult) and Outer Space.

>Ben Russell's Let Us Persevere in What We Have Resolved Before We Forget
A bit cheating since I've seen it because of a philosophy of cinema blog I follow, it's a great piece of anthropology (alongside its sequels, Atlantis and He who eats children), interrogating the machine-eye and the spectator-eye about their role in the creation of documentaries, how they inform a director's ethos and style. Much more about who we are than about its subject matter, Cargo Cults, but it draws a somewhat nice parallel.

>>8369033
Promise me that you'll go outside for a walk in the sun tomorrow.

>>8369038
But I do go out, I just feel this overbearing urge to vomit words and concepts every time I talk about cinema. I may need help.

>>8369016
not true. The /mu/'s movies part should be filled with more jack black.
High Fidelity is the #1 /mu/ movie followed by school of rock and Tenacious D

I don't really watch movies as when I am reading a book I can easily imagine stuff and play it out in my head.

>>8369080
How do you feel about John Carpenter? I love the music, love the style, love the characters and individual scenes but usually his movies as a whole don't hang together for me. It's a pacing problem, I think; they often feel too baggy. The exception is The Thing, which is solid straight through and on every level.

>>8369104
I haven't seen all of his that I'd like to see, but I can somewhat agree on your assessment. The narrative pacing is weird and spazzy in his films, jumping jarringly from a mood/idea to another - not that it's inherently bad, of course, but you can kind of see that he was going for an organic viewing experience and it came out blotched. I'd add Halloween to the exceptions, though.

His movies are great explorations of what makes us human beings anyway, like our need of dietrology and conspiracies of any kind in They Live (we tell ourselves stories in order to live, to quote Joan Didion) or what is, effectively, our basis to recognize "true" humanity in someone else in The Thing. I'd recommend you read Peter Watts's Blindisght if you liked the latter, you'll enjoy it immensely.

>>8369130
Thanks, I'll look it up.

what does KINO mean?

>>8369096
But /mu/ hates rock and metal.

>>8369142
Cinema in a number of languages - namely Russian, where it gave birth to such concepts as Vertov's Kinoglaz (cinema-eye, the camera) or Kinopravda (cinema-journal). /tv/ picked it up and started using to both indulge their ironic need of showing off depth when referring to what they viewed and to implement a subset of the pleb/patrician dichotomy, more specifically tailored to their board and consisting, in ascending order, of flicks-movies-cinema-kino. It's obviously an idiocy but, as these things often go, what has once been adopted mockingly is now starting to find genuine adepts.

Hope I've been of help.

>>8369033
>Blair Witch
Credibility lost.

>>8369163
how does a place like /tv/ even exist

>>8369183
It's a dark sun formed by feces and phlegma slowly falling, gravitating into each other, attracting more of their kind. A twisted, necessary counterweight to that star that informs our eyes and let's us see, the thrice worshipped light of Vision.

>>8369167
Aw come on, I wrote up why. I still get points for being verbose.

>>8369004
2001 doesn't really count considering he and Clarke sat down and created the whole idea together. He didn't adapt it from the novel just as the novel was not an adaptation from the film

>>8369163
kino pravda mean cinema truth

>>8369282
Ah sorry, I was convinced otherwise. Still, they were documentaristic short that played before the "proper" movie in the cinema, right? Or something like that. Recollections are a bit fuzzy about it, read about it some time ago.

>>8369033
care to rec me some philosophy of cinema books?

pseud readers tend to have a pseud taste in film

>>8369004
tv btfo

>>8368982
Whoever made that pic is a complete retard.

>>8369373
was it you?

>>8369004
Remider that Kubrick sucks.

>>8369505

jesus christ man. you kiss your mother with that edge?

>>8369373
how so

>>8368982
>the fault in our stars

subtle

>>8369033
>blair witch
> lovecraft
>cthulhuoid ethics

either you're high as shit or you don't know what you're talking about

>>8370856
Nah, I think I'm onto something. Why do you think I'm mistaken?

>>8370846
Doesn't understand how analogy works. The /v/ movies are movies based on video games, the /lit/ movies are movies based on books, and the /mu/ movies are just movies about music. The /tv/ movies aren't movies based on movies but, rather, examples of classic cinema.

Also, while there are no good video game movie adaptations, the guy who made that graphic cherry-picked the worst book adaptations and the shittiest music movies.

>>8369203
>get points for being verbose
This isn't reddit.

I don't really like movies. They're too long for one sitting, but too short for a real story.

>>8370869
damn youre a pretty low iq poster tbqh

>>8369183
My impression of /tv/ is that the whole /lit/ or /mu/-style pleb/patrician dichotomy is a really minor thing there. There's very little interest in arty films- it's mostly people congratulating themselves on thinking superhero movies are shit. And memes, of course. It's a deeply pleb board in a way /lit/ and /mu/ aren't.

>>8370899
True that. When I do feel like watching a film, I'd say 90-100 minutes is the sweet spot. If it's over two hours, it had better be a stone-cold classic.

>>8370647
You're gonna disagree with tarkovsky now?

>>8370951
>only one of my friends is a diehard classic movie fan
>everyone else only likes capeshit

reality is suffering

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What have you guys been watching recently?

>>8370986
What about the sweet spot stuff that's in between Ingmar Bergman art film and Transformer Superman IX: Return of the Merchandising? Stuff like classic film noir, B movies that transcend the genre, American comedies from the 30s-50s?

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>>8368982
>kino
>Pain & Gain
Ohhhhhh yes, I can get behind this meme. Michael bay is one of the great filmmakers of our time but I feel like that was his first work that really came close to what he's capable of on levels other than technical. Transformers 2 might have had beautifully executed action but Pain & Gain was just something else.

>>8370990
I just watched Babel and enjoyed it so much that it's making me reconsider how much I hate everything else that Inarritu has made. Was Biutiful really a disgusting waste of time or was I simply too stupid? I'll have to think on that and maybe work up the willpower to see it again.

Also I saw Pocahontas for the first time and very impressed. There are some generic elements like the boringly designed background animals but I think it also had some of Disney's most inspired work. Pocahontas' design was 10/10 and 'Colours of the Wind' was probably the most moving thing I've seen in a Disney movie outside of Pinocchio. I also appreciate that while they didn't include all out war they had the sense to present the story of Pocahontas and John Smith as the tragedy it was, with no tacked on happy ending to sour the whole thing.

>>8369156
but jack black's meme status makes /mu/ adore him

>>8369209
2001: A Space Odysseyis phony on many points, even for specialists. For a true work of art, the fake must be eliminated.

>>8370990
BBC's war and peace adaptation

it's what you'd expect from trying to put half a million words into 6 hours of content

that said, there's some good things

>Anatole and Natasha kiss scene
>they kiss
>they back off
>they look at each other
>faint zipper noise
>natasha looks down
>she runs off

i keked hard
also, if i was in pierre's position, and helene looked like that, i wouldn't mind sharing

>>8369505
epic

>>8369167

Really. That gives him bonus points for me. It means he's not so indoctrinated by the pleb/patrician dichotomy that he can recognize innovation even if it gains mass appeal. The phrase Cthuluthian ethics kind of made me cringe a little though.

>>8372571
To be fair, I lifted it from a fairly rambling philosophy book - it's just a catchy shorthand for "things that are utterly inhuman exist following morals/pursuing objectives we can't understand or perceive"; or rather, that what we experience (namely, the death of the three kids in BWP) may or may not be the end towards which the entity operated (what we would usually, as humans and narrative entities, assume), but could be just a step, the beginning of its plans, an unwanted accident, the satisfaction of a need, etc.; in truth, even using words like end or mean or need is an arbitrary humanization - a sort of ethical cargo cult, born out of the unknown we'll never pierce.

You gotta admit that's a bit easier to convey in two fairly intuitive worda.

i like Melancholia, and the others movie of the director of this.
Any recs?

>>8372594
Hou Hsiao Hsien, if you manage to find his movies online. Watch the Boys from Fengkuey

>>8368982
why the fuck do they like Canoa?

I recently saw and liked Queen of Earth, so it prepped me for stretches of nothing happening.

>>8372584

Thanks for the explanation. That's interesting.

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>mfw /tv/ is responsible for over 90% of all shitposting and forced memes but everyone wants /pol/ to be deleted instead

It's like this place enjoys being terrible

>>8372661
Recently saw that too, was very impressed. Elisabeth Moss was fantastic and the movie managed to be both beautiful and bleak without descending into edgy nonsense. As good as Persona.

>>8372682
for you

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Can someone list all the the films that figure on the image under /tv/ kino.
Thanks.

>>8372682
No bro it's /pol/ and the /v/edditors who ruined /tv/ :D

/pol/ and /v/ are responsible for literally everything wrong with the universe

>>8369163
but /tv/ doesn't even try to be patrician anymore, it's just capeshit and pop flicks

>>8373051
/mu/ is responsible for making offtopic memeing acceptable as long as it fits the boards sense of humor.
I actually like it a lot.

>>8374377
Yes, they decided to burn it all to the ground and ride to hell on a winged flock of pedothreads, "capeshit", stale memery and uninventive shitposting. I don't like to throw the word anti-intellectualism around, but those fuckers are a glaring example of it - they even managed to promote moderately experimental (think Malick) directors to "pretentious twat" tier just to have more shitposting possibilities.

>>8372065
>For a true work of art, the fake must be eliminated.

this is about the worst post currently on 4chan.

art can be original or fake and still be equally meaningful. and I can't imagine a mature artists worrying about originality. that would limit their work. I'd like to think they are just trying to keep in tune with the intuitive seed that starts all intellectual artistic endeavors whether it be original or not.

>>8374401
They are the true libertines of shitposting.