What language are you learning and why? +General language thread

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>>8347832
Hebrew, because of my jewish heritage and also because of general interest in qabbalism and the talmud.
I speak Estonian, Russian and English very well.

Native English. Good Latin and Greek. Sanskrit. French. Classical Arabic.

Esperanto, but I don't like it, so I stopped.

>>8347832
I got a few books on Low Saxon, which is reduced to dialects in my country. Tried learning Russian but gave up because I want to spend my time differently.

I speak English and Dutch.

I know
Swedish,French, Spanish, English, Esperanto, Latin and Portuguese
Learning Deutsche, Greek, Russian and Jap

>>8347832
I speak English and French and want to learn Russian. Any good resources online?

>Arabic
Someone contact the NSA.

In all seriousness though, I tried to learn Arabic several years ago. I really enjoyed it but didn't stick with it so now I know pretty much nothing.

I'm currently learning French for reading/travel purposes. I'm using a combination of a grammar textbook with practice exercises and Duolingo to help with vocab and pronunciation. I'll be going to France for a week or two in a year so I'm hoping to be at least conversational by then.

I have these grand plans of eventually knowing English, French, Spanish, Italian, and either Russian or German but I know I'll never follow through. My realistic goal is to reach fluency in French and Spanish. I have a good enough Spanish base that with a little work, I think I could come up to a moderate level pretty quickly.

>>8347853
>>8347875
When you guys say you know Latin, what do you mean by that?

>>8347945
It's my first language.

On a different note, how do I go about learning a new language without a course or something like that?

Just buy a grammar, grab an easy book and try to power through it?

Wanted to learn German this next year.

>>8347945
Me tantum dicere possum, sed ullo novo scripto donato, possum transducere sine opere. Manifeste, dicere Latinam linguam difficilius est legendo scribendoque, sed totam vitam est agendum ut melius fieri rege linguarum.

>>8347981
Yes. This is the best way to do it.

>>8347875
pratar du verkligen så många språk flytande eller snackar du bara skit?

Currently learning Fante, and Italian.

Fante, one of the many languages found in Ghana, is my wife's 1st language.
I'm also learning Italian because it is part of my heritage.

In the future I would like to learn more French, and perhaps German. I studied German for four years in High School. I feel like not keeping up with it would be a waste, but admittedly I'm not a big fan of the language.

>>8347832

Native English. I know Norwegian from a past relationship.

Tempted to learn both German and Japanese. Will probably err in favour of the latter as I'm thinking Nippon will be the safest bet for when the shit hits the fan in Europe.

>>8347981
If you're rich enough you could get a private tutor, but apart from that the method you mentioned is the best. A great way to learn a language faster is to expose yourself to the language as much as possible by simply moving to the country where the language is spoken or by consuming media in that language. Practice makes perfect. Viel Glück.

>>8348002
hen sa ikkje nå om flytande sven

>>8347981
this and working every day a little bit, or how ever you want to tackle it
>>8347945
We can read and write
Talking is difficult due to the pronunciation
see
>>8347998

>>8348002
yes I speak those languages fluently (except esperanto because I don't find many people to talk with)
I study everyday and get to practice since my dad is a linguist and translator

learning German now just to be able to work as a freelance translator from home because any offline contact with people makes me sick and sucks all my energy

>>8348503
Why would people pay you when they can pay a certified translator with a relevant degree?

German native, I speak English and Russian. I'm thinking about learning French or Latin, not sure yet.

>>8347981
i read German Quickly A Grammar for Reading German. its specialised to humanities. most practice text consists of literature, philosophy and proverbs. not good if you want to write/speak german. i still dont no how to pronounce the vowels but can read a german text easily.

recommend if you dont give a shit about speaking to germans, but jst want to read it

I know Norwegian, English, German, and I can read, write and understand Ancient Greek.

I'm also conversational in Icelandic.

>>8348593
t bh ive never understood why people pay translators at all. surely someone in you company is fluent.

especially spanish translators in usa,

>>8348658
Someone being fluent in two languages doesn't mean that they're good translators.

t. Translator, and I'm working with plenty of bilinguals that think they are good translators. They're not

reposting from the old thread, google drive with a shitton of grammars for almost every language, living or dead.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk

>>8347832

I'm trying to self teach German and Russian, and might start on Korean or Czech later.
My methods are almost useless, mostly because my methods only consist of duolingo and trying to read news articles in that language.

As for why...just because. I like (old) German and Russian lit/music/philosophy and I like the way they sound. There's a large community of Koreans where I live, so that could be practical, and Czech because I want to visit and perhaps live there for a while.

>>8348672
I don't see any files

>>8348707
Do you see folders? click on one.

also logging in and out of your google account might work (it's how some anon fixed it last thread).

>>8348713
It worked by relogging
Thanks anon for this cornucopia

>>8348036

>thinks Japan will be better off than EU
>not learning chink for that purpose

>>8347832
Russian and Esperanto. Russian Is easier than I thought and Esperanto is really easy. Maybe Greek or Latin next.

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>>8348734
>Russian Is easier than I thought

>>8348036
Ikke ta japansk. Det er det flateste språket jeg har vært borti noensinne (selv om kinesisk kommer på en knapp andreplass). Tysk er veldig dynamisk og har mye rom for nyanserte formuleringer.

>>8348761
lol

Already with a bit of French beginner vocab and grammar in the back of my head I tried the grammar book+literature trick with L'Etranger but gave up after a page because I was far too reliant on google translate and the grammar book dense with the amount of information to memorize. Should I try something else or did I just pussy out too easily?

>>8347832
I'm learning Japanese currently.
I like lots of Japanese film, art, music. Interested in the culture, folklore, history, shame and seppuku, all that. Yes, I've also watched my share of anime, read my share of manga. The only Japanese books I've read are Murakami and Everyone Poops, however. But of course the writing and literature is a big incentive for me to learn. I'm also very curious about some visual novels I've heard about. I never read/play VNs, but I've heard some pretty absurd praise for a few untranslated ones regarding their writing, and well, I'd like to find out myself if it's truly that good.
I've realized that there is so much which isn't very translatable. Like how in Japanese there are the strict social hierarchical rules built into the language. You can't speak to someone without putting yourself below them or putting them below you. There's that and a myriad of other things which simply express stuff way differently from what I'm used to. This is of great interest to me regarding any language, as it's almost like a totally different way of thinking.
I would love to learn Russian as well, eventually. Besides all the art and culture, I just love the sound of Russian. Probably my favorite sounding language.

>>8348734
>Russian Is easier than I thought
Interesting to hear. I've been imagining that it's really damn hard. Hopefully I'll think the same thing as you.

>>8348652

>recommend if you dont give a shit about speaking to germans,

My mom speaks german fluently, so I can practice conversation with her and avoid those things. Thx for the rec

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any good sources for Italian?

May be moving there soon, and if not I’d still love to read Dante in the original.

>>8348811
You pussied out too early.

There is no trick to grammar - just learn it by heart. And practise, every single day.

>>8347832
French. I've always been interested in the language, it's a pretty present one, and it shouldn't be too hard to learn either.
Apart from English, I speak German, Japanese, Dutch, Russian, and Swedish.

>>8348734
>learning esperanto in 2016
wew.

>>8348811
What do you mean by "beginner vocab and grammar"? Could you at least understand the first line? Also, if you're going to translate things, translate them yourself, not with a machine.

also what >>8348853 said, you kind of pussied out and just need to practice more. You'll eventually find it fun and enjoyable.

Is there any point on learning latin?
I already speak spanish (native tongue), english and a little bit of italian.

>>8348871
Latin is interesting, and there's 2000 years of accumulated philosophy, science, and whatever else to delve into.

And it's the baby step into Ancient Greek.

>>8348871
Depends if you have a goal with doing it. Learning languages in general can be exceptionally tedious work, but having some reason beyond trying to impress people is usually a good idea.

>>8348871
If you're interested in Roman history or western europe up until the late 1700's, then yeah I'd say there's a point in learning latin.

>>8348853
>>8348865
I did Duolingo and Memrise a while back and didn't touch the language for a few months. That's what I mean by "beginner vocab and grammar". I could understand the first sentence and generally can generally understand half of the words in a given sentence but would have to look up words a lot and then try to piece the sentence together again.

But you guys are right, I pussied out for no good reason and will go at it again.

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>>8348878
>And it's the baby step into Ancient Greek.

Οὖτος ὀ ὰνθρωπος λἐγει τὴν ὰλἠθειαν.

>>8347832
日本語をしゃべれる

>>8348879
I guess if i learn latin then it would be easier to learn the most obtuse romance tongues.
Also, as >>8348878 said, there is a fuckton of culture.

>>8348880
I was thinking about reading about Roman history because i don't remember a lot of things.

>>8348761
>crititizes a language in a language that is a parody of another language

>>8348918
Your spiriti lenes are coming out as grave accents, my man.

> ἄνθρωπος
> ἀλήθεια

Wanna learn Japanese because I am very interested in their history and culture.

>4
>German, Spanish, Englisch, French

>>8347832
Croatian native,I know English profficiently,French on intermediate level and I still stay with German and Russian on basics...My realistic goal is to tackle these last two from basics(Russian will be easy thanks to Slavic roots,but real difficulty will be with German) and make French profficiency step-by-step...Then,perhaps,I will move into Latin(which I was learning 2 years already) and Old Greek...

>>8349001
They did, but I can barely read this text at 4K resolution so I did what I could. At least the grammar is correct for once.

>>8348865
>learning esperanto in 2016
>wew.

I mean, if you have an interest in the inner working of language, learning one that's made up to be a "universal language" might yield some wisdom.

>>8349071
>I mean, if you have an interest in the inner working of language, learning one that's made up to be a "universal language" might yield some wisdom.

Yeah, but they could just study actual linguistics, or a language that is / was actually used universally, instead of learning a boring synthetic slavic-romance mash-up.

>>8349098

>they could just study actual linguistics

theory =/= practice man

>language that is / was actually used universally

Esperanto is really the best example you can get as far as made-up languages go, though.

>>8349210
>theory =/= practice man

Yeah, but theory sure is useful.

>Esperanto is really the best example you can get as far as made-up languages go, though.

Yeah, but why learn a made up language that has no real literature and a shitty community / culture? Also, another thing, nobody uses it for its intended purpose.

>>8349230
>Also, another thing, nobody uses it for its intended purpose.
wait, forgot to add this at the end: they just wank eachother off about speaking esperanto.

>>8349230
>Yeah, but why learn a made up language that has no real literature and a shitty community / culture?
It has some literature
The community is true to be snobby and faggy
>Also, another thing, nobody uses it for its intended purpose.
Ever since I used Esperanto, my world has been in peace mane, watch'ou mean

>>8349241
>It has some literature
Mostly just translations though.

>>8347832
Im learning japanese and english. I want to read a lot if stuff in his original language.

>>8348811
You don't need to understand 100% of the book in French; just go for the gist and if you get lost, catch yourself up with sparknotes and the like.

Aim for a grammar point or two every day. Also note that the main character speaks plainly about things he doesn't care about (I.e. most of the plot of the first half), and detailedly for things he does (old people flesh, heat, the sun) so in many cases getting lost is simply the narrator talking about something mundane you can probably skim over without memorizing all of the words.

>>8348863
What do you crazy polyglots do? Are you NEET I have English, Japanese, and French but I can't find any work that actually allows me to use them.

>>8348734
desu language difficulty is just a real shitty meme. The only thing that determines the difficulty of learning one is how much you actually want to learn it.

>>8350679
It's true that "language difficulty" is overrated but it still exists. Esperanto being way easier than Russian is just a fact.

Where to find a free French-English dictionary for Kindle? Somehow I managed to find a GER-ENG one long time ago, but know I don't know where to look.

>>8348811
read La Parure

>>8347832
German, I hate separable verbs.

>>8348036
Nipps can't into government or economy. Great people, great country, but impossible demographical problems

>>8347832
Native french speaker, native level English. Decent japanese and Spanish.
I'm learning/practicing Mandarin because I dream of speaking 5 languages one day, and China has a very long and interesting story. Already knowing a lot of moon rune helps.

>>8348852
download a language pack from piratebay
https://pirateproxy.one/torrent/6973241/The_Ultimate_Italian_Learning_Pack

https://pirateproxy.one/torrent/7148693/The_Ultimate_Italian_Learning_Pack_(Vol._2)

https://pirateproxy.one/torrent/8298308/The_Ultimate_Italian_Learning_Pack_(Vol._3)

this is what i do when i want to learn a language

>>8350679
???
1. you do realise esperanto was designed to be easy to learn?
2. also if you dont realise that some languages are harder to learn than others you havent learned many languages

>>8350230
Not a NEET. I grew up bilingual, speaking English and German. My interest in languages developed from an early age, so I suppose that's how I managed to learn the others in the meantime. Also, the more languages you know, the easier it is to learn new ones.
My work involves Japanese, German, and English, but I can't put my other languages to use in a working environment most of the time either.

>>8347832
Latin, so I can read history that SJWs won't be able to invade/modify. Also it's helping me understand English grammar a bit better.

>>8347998
Know any good resources for Latin?

>>8347998
Your Latin is poor.
>>8352870
Not that guy, but if you want t develop a fluent command of the language, Hans Oerburg's Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata is the way to go

>>8353185
Cool thanks anon, do I have to get any extra books with LLPSI?

Any idea where I can get LLPSI and said extra books?

>>8353207
You /can/ use LLPSI on its own, but it's better to use it in conjunction with "Latine Disco," which is a student's manual that can help you w/ grammar points the main book won't help you with.

Here is the link to book 1 of LLPSI: https://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205
Latine Disco: https://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Latine-Students/dp/1585100501/ref=pd_sim_14_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41jaQ0zJ3bL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR110%2C160_&psc=1&refRID=AS5RV8JK6FKT4HAAE1CC

The important thing to remember with Latin is that it is a language—you want to learn it not to make shitty translations of Latin texts but to read the Latin for itself. To this end, you will learn best and most quickly by reading, writing, speaking and listening to Latin. LLPSI will cover reading at first, but do your best to find ways to exercise the others as well.

>>8353250
Yeah, I've got a copy of "Getting started with Latin" and it's great fun, Linney has audio available too.

Thanks for the links, pity the shipping rates suck to my country.

>>8353289
Sorry to hear that :/

>>8353300
It's no problem, I'm sure a cheap copy will show up on abebooks :D

>>8348958
下手くそ。ちゃんと話せるか?

I got a question for the so-called polyglots in here. How do you guys do in conversations? I learned english as a second language but i would never say i was fluid until i was able to recite a young thug song without looking for the lyrics. Also, to the ones that supposedly speak spanish, do you guys actually speak with others? Who the fuck do you practice it with? I asked because i have met people that "speak" spanish, and whenever i try to have a conversation with them, it's as if i was communicating with tarzan.

>>8347981
You can't. Use duolingo + pirated michel thomas audio recordings

>>8347998
>sed ullo novo scripto donato

What are you trying to say exactly? I'm getting "But give to any new (thing) written." I'm thinking you're not writing this out properly.

>>8353795
yeah shouldnt it be shaberareru

'ga hanaseru' actually

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i don't have any need to learn another language, but i really want to. the problem is that i don't know what language i should learn.
please convince me ot learn the language of your choosing.
>i can speak english, spanish, french and a good amount of japanese

Currently learning JavaScript and Phyton.

>>8354618
pour etre honnete ma famille phyton seem boring to learn about

>>8354563
abl abs given any new text

>>8353185
> Your Latin is poor.
How so? The only mistake I made was using infinitive 'fieri' after 'ut' instead of 'fiat'.

>>8354563
Ablative absolute.
> any new text having been presented...

>>8354616
Learn Irish

It's nice.

Spanish so I can read the bullfighting reviews in the newspapers.

>>8355420
You misunderstand the meaning of "opus"—it means "work" in the sense of something made; that is, an accomplishment. Therefore "sine opere" makes little sense here. Moreover, "manifeste" is an Anglicism—a sentence adverb at the beginning o a clause is not god Latin writing.

>>8354616
Learn Welsh.

It's nicer.

>>8355707
Tibi enim gratis ago. Haec dictis, dixissem 'sine labore' aut 'sine multo labore', aut similibus verbis.

>Arabic.

Fuck of Sven.

>>8355776

Now I want to play dodo

>>8354547

>duolingo

it looked fucking awful last time I downloaded it

>>8355776
Haha i am swedish lol

>>8354547
>michel thomas
>Learn a new language in hours, not years.
wut

>>8347846
Eesti juut? Kas teid on Eestis palju?

Pole mingi /pol/ asi, lihtsalt ei puutu üldse kokku.

>>8354603
Consider http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2139547158351307801

>Arabic
I'm so fucking triggered by this shit. I'm German and a girl I kinda fancy started learning Arabic.
Fucking whores, offering their pussy and sacrificing their good genes is not enough, they even gotta learn the language of violence and darkness for maximum surrender.

What's your goal learning this language? The only media in Arabic we get contains the 2 words of ALLAHU AKBAR and nothing else and we don't need to adapt to their culture anyway. White people have no children so in a century everyone will speak Arabic anyway.

>>8356079
It is not rare to learn languages with no practical purpose. People only would learn only their native language and English if that was the whole appeal of language learning. I'm betting most people saying they'll learn Japanese here aren't going in business trips to Japan anytime soon.

Also, I think you wouldn't be as bitter if that girl gave you the time of day.

>>8356079
I love how racism is dying out:) you will simply become a smaller and smaller majority of ignorant retards who want to perserve some idea of a perfect race. We will mix. Your racist remarks and debates will not matter and will not be remembered. Your efforts are futile.

>>8356079
>The only media in Arabic we get contains the 2 words of ALLAHU AKBAR '

This is simply false, arabic countries have a history richer than most caucasian countries.

also
> calling arabs hateful and violent while acting hateful and violent and giving in to two hateful and violent ideologies

>>8356331
Yes, glorious non-racists and open minded Muslims will dominate :) All cultures and races will be mixed into one (saves a lot of money as travelling becomes pointless).
Now we just need to redistribute the resources and Utopia is perfect. Inshallah, my friend.

>>8356351
>have a history richer than most caucasian countries
No, they don't. This is simply not true. They have an interesting history, which they are actively destroying, but the history of western countries is much more dense and important.

>acting hateful and violent
Mimimi, you can't hate hateful people or you're hateful.
Thanks mate, thanks for opening my eyes. I'll celebrate from now on that our birthrate is so low that we are literally dying out and that we get millions of people with a completely different culture who are for real, unlike you fagsreligious.
I'm so glad that girl I'm into learns Arabic so that she can tell Achmed how much she enjoy sucking his dick.
They get my country, they get my women, at least don't force me to celebrate it and let me die as a bitter virgin.

>>8356331
>a smaller and smaller majority

>>8356365

>non-racists and open minded Muslims

Wait, are those a thing? Muslim is a meme religion anyways, just go read Judaism since all the good parts of Islam is ripped from there

>>8356487
>are those a thing
No.

>good parts of Islam
Like?

>>8356409
>No, they don't. This is simply not true. They have an interesting history, which they are actively destroying
no

>but the history of western countries is much more dense and important.

In your opinion. Also, why?

In the second part of your post you keep refering to your race and your women. What have you done to be so proud of the white race? You said it yourself, you are a bitter virgin, how come most racists and islamophobes seem to be much like you while strong independent people with social skills, wifes/husbands, friends and family are the more open minded non racist people? You always claim that the white race is so amazing and we need to preserve it, why? So we can breed more assholes like you? Perhaps if you stop thinking of everything as yours because of who you were born as, you would develop some kind of reasoning and work for things, obtaining a girl/boyfriend perhaps. Everything isn't as black and white.

No, islam will not take over the world. People will be enlightened and just like christianity is withering out in the west, islam will also. The reason many arabs are so religious is because of the conditions of where they come from where you do need to trust in something greater to make it out of bed everyday. If you actually socialised with first generation arabic immigrants you would see that they are either not religous at all or far less religious than their parents. This will continue, every generation becoming less and less religious.

>>8356365
You blew the post waaay out of proportion because you have no argument.

>>8356409
Also

> implies you arent hateful simply hate hateful people

> later imply that you are a "bitter virgin"

kek

>>8356497
>good parts of Islam
>Like?

The spiritual parts which weren't completely distorted in order to fit Muhammad's debauchery.

>>8356502
>implying I'm not one of the nicest guys you could ever meet
I got so many lefti friends like you who get rock hard thinking about Alli fucking their girlfriend. They know that I'm not a lefti but little do they know how much the death of our kind really troubles me.

Islam is a brutish religion opposing everything we value in the western world. Wanting your kind to merely preserve itself is not evil in any shape or form. I'm not even blond/blue eyed, yet it makes me really sad that this genetic trait is dying so quickly.

>>8356672
>it makes me really sad that this genetic trait is dying so quickly.

It's dying because it's a recessive trait you mongoloid. It was destined to be selected out in the end by a process of simple dilution over time. And I'm saying that as someone who IS blond and blue-eyed.

I think blond people know this, is rare to see two full-on "aryan" people together nowadays. It sends off a incest vibe which I think has a instinctive background.

Currently learning English but not satisfied as yet. Need to read more. Pronouncing names of people or other things that you know nothing about is very difficult, which makes English much worse a language than it could have been.

>>8356703
>It's dying because it's a recessive trait
You didn't finish middle school, did you

>>8356714

good god you are so far up your own ass it's quite amusing. Btw, I had Genetics in University, I'm sure I know more than you about that.

Just because it doens't follow a Mendelian rule it doesn't mean that the sum of the multiple loci are recessive. As I said, you are positively a mongoloid, it's too late for you buds

>>8356703
>It sends off a incest vibe
That is utterly retarded. The truth is that blond/blue eyed might be valued as beautiful but it is still seen as "Nazi". Having a healthy blond/blue eyed family full of normal kids is everything the left hates. Just look at yourself, you are so brainwashed you think of white children as incest.
Blond/blue eyed woman also know that they are on the absolute top of the food chain, meaning they can have everyone and so they go for something fun, where they can be dominant instead of starting a relationship where they are merely equal and forced to sacrifice their body for children for which they would have to care.

>recessive trait
So what? It managed to stay strong for thousands of years and now that it dies within a few generations so it's not bad at all? Imagine we were talking about animals, you would certainly agree that the death of a species (or in the case of humans "ethnicity") is bad.

It's not even about blue/blond, this is merely the purest form from which you can derive others. It's about a heavily declining birthrate plus a policy of fighting this decline by immigration from a hostile culture.
plus I'm pissed that this hot girl is learning Arabic, and my logic being that you would only learn the language of a culture you adore

Grammar-wise English is primitive as fuck, which makes it look poorer among other languages.

>>8356786
Not really.

>>8347832
i know Portuguese and English Fluently. I'm currently brushing up on my French, which, to be quite frank, is pretty bad.

>>8356796
Indeed, it's true what I'm saying.

>>8356827
No, it isn't.

I speak Swedish, Russian and English fluently. Then I know some very limited Japanese, Mandarin, German and French. I understand Norwegian but only because it's so similar to swedish.

>>8356786
Are you kidding me

>>8347832

Arabic and German

German is easy tier. Learned it pretty well.

Arabic is far far harder than German, having trouble.

>>8356079

We will need interpreters in the coming race war brother. I'm learning Arabic for this reason.

>>8356732
Not him, but he's right. If your uni course taught you that blondes are likely to die out because it's a recessive trait, then they lied to you.

This thread is too /lit/ for /lit/

>>8356863
Dann kannst du mir ja sicherlich antworten, oder? Da Deutsch ja so leicht wirst du wohl keine Probleme haben.

>>8356862
Why would I lie about it?

>>8356859
Is Swedish harder than English?

>>8356765

> you are so brainwashed you think of white children as incest.

Nope, I just think that banging a girl who looks like my sister feels somewhat weird.

>Blond/blue eyed woman also know that they are on the absolute top of the food chain

Ofc, because literally every single male on the earth either knows them to be the objectively best woman to fugg, or are brainwashed by "The Left" (TM) to like other colours. Subjective taste of course plays no role in that matter whatsoever. Cmon man I know for a fact you can't say that to me irl with a straight face, troll harder next time pls shitposting is a dying artform

>Imagine we were talking about animals, you would certainly agree that the death of a species

I can't say it's bad if it's just nature playing itself out, which to me is what will ultimately happen to those O So Beautiful traits. Of course, if I believed in an overarching conspiracy of the left to endoctrinate the white male, I would view that as bad, but I do not believe anyone even infinitesimally level-headed would believe in the guilt-trips of the far-left or the schizoid-paranoias of the alt-right.

>>8356872

I know it's an oversimplification, but it's still viewed as a mostly recessive trait. From wiki because fuck that I won't leaf through my Genectics book in my vacation time:

>"One phenotype (brown/blonde) has a dominant brown allele and a recessive blond allele. A person with a brown allele will have brown hair; a person with no brown alleles will be blond. This explains why two brown-haired parents can produce a blond-haired child. However, this can only be possible if both parent are heterozygous in hair color- meaning that both of them have one dominant brown hair allele and one recessive allele for blond hair, but as dominant traits mask recessive ones the parents both have brown hair. In a punnet square it is possible to determine the possibility of a certain trait in an offspring.

>The other gene pair is a non-red/red pair, where the non-red allele (which suppresses production of pheomelanin) is dominant and the allele for red hair is recessive. A person with two copies of the red-haired allele will have red hair.

>The two-gene model does not account for all possible shades of brown, blond, or red (for example, platinum blond versus dark blond/light brown), nor does it explain why hair color sometimes darkens as a person ages. Several gene pairs control the light versus dark hair color in a cumulative effect"

So yeah, not totally true since there's a lot of factors involved that we still can't account for, but the "model" is still a recessive one.

>>8348593
Someone might have a specialty in something that other translators don't. Maybe anon knows biology or philosophy really well, or maybe a particular figure, so their translations will have extra value. I'm thinking in terms of translating literature though

>>8356982
no one wants you to translate shit, you had best eat a she-male's anal and go get some sleep afterwards

>>8356909


Deutschland wird nun von arabs Besitz Ausländer

إن شاء الله

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>>8355962
mõnikord sa ei tunne juuti ära isegi
nii salakavalad on nad

>>8348871
>>8348878
>>8348879
>>8348880
i'm studying latin at university - i come from a monolingual english background so i feel it's been invaluable in the sense that it has introduced me to an entirely different grammatical system and culture. Beyond this it's also an excellent way of improving your own english (eg loanwords, oratorical skills from studying latin lit) and gives a good base for the romance languages.

it's always excellent to read classics in the original too

>>8357083
> has introduced me to an entirely different grammatical system
Just a protip: Latin and English do not have entirely different grammatical systems; they relatively similar when considering non-IE languages.

Quae studes in scholae: tantum linguam aut litteras/scripta? Semper optavi ut in scholam redeam Latinamque studeam, verum contemno litteras; tantum linguam studere velim.

Qui auctores primi classici legis?

>>8357115
good point about IE languages - guess that's just my eurocentrism.

going into 4th yr edinburgh university - we studied language as a compulsory course (inc. stemmatic theory, scansion, metre) - then we had various options of latin authors. So at uni i've done Catullus, Virgil, Ovid, Petronius and Lucretius (also Prudentius but that's not classical latin).

Doing my dissertation on Juvenal next year, along side courses on Roman satire.

as you can see i've not done prose composition in a while

>>8357156
>>8357115
eurocentrism/anglocentrism*

>>8356975
recessive doesn't mean dying out. it means you can carry it for generations without it presenting and then suddenly atavism. there's a wikipedia page dedicated to the blonde gene hoax here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearing_blonde_gene It relies on a misunderstanding of recessive genes which you university lied to and your middle school education wasn't thorough enough to spot. try /sci/ they'll be really trolled

>>8357177
>lied to
lied to **you about**

Welsh, god help me

>>8356956
>>8356827
>>8356786
No language has "primitive as fuck" grammar, every living language (aside from hebrew maybe) has been evolving for thousands upon thousands of years. The only languages that can be said to have primitive as fuck grammar are conlangs like Toki Pona, where simplicity is the goal.

>>8357177

>The extinction claim is based on a misinterpretation of recessiveness in genetics. In reality, unless blond genes are positively selected against, blondeness will not disappear

That's the issue with the misunderstanding, that unless there is an external pressure there will be no selection. I wasn't "lied to" at Uni, that was me failing to see a fallacy right in front of me.

However, one could make the argument that the "pressure" is globalization and the natural mingling of cultures and ethnicities. I still think those traits will become increasingly rare as time passes because it will become diluted through the contact with other people, it's just not gonna happen by 2030 like the article said lol.

To me, it's about probability: they are more probable to disappear, and over a huge amount of time they probably will. With that argument, I avoid the fallacy and still keep my incredibly important dignity intact by not bulging one inch in my argument over the internet

>>8357064
Tunnen mõnda kes on juudid, aga ainult geneetiliselt. Mind huvitab just see kultuurne ja religioosne pool, ja kas seda on Eestis üldse mingil suurel määral.

>>8357312
sure thing mr university genetics class man. my university herpetology class told me to stay away from you because you're a lizard hellbent on destruction of the human race through disinformation and mind control. trufax, srsly breh, i'm like a professor nao

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>>8357345

>lizard hellbent on destruction of the human race through disinformation and mind control

o shit they found me

What language has the worst orthography? Personally, I think celtic languages look pretty ugly written.

>>8347832
Spanish. Economic utility, little bombast, and it's curtailed of excesses.

The people are epicures. The people are also more than willing to lampoon whites who are oblivious to their own ridiculousness. They don't sit atop a podium. Their opinions are resonant to those with common sense. Only problems are with their ability to heed the law and their tenuous grip of it.

>>8358200
Not in their own scripts.

>>8355420
Ablative absolute doesn't work in this case, since you are saying Give. They must become accusative. Ablative absolute is for a seperate idea connected as a dependent clause e.g. "With the romans having been killed, we rescued Carthage."

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>>8356079
Daily reminder Christians did more harm to Christendom than Muslims ever will.

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Learning Spanish right now, I'm almost fluent. Being in a state with a lot of latinas helps.

Planning on learning French afterwards, then maybe Portuguese or Arabic. I know all this sounds difficult, but I feel I need to know such languages if I want to have adventure in life. I also have a lot of Arab friends and the official Baathist instagram account considers me to be an honorary Arab, so Arabic might be a must. Knowing French and standard Arabic (plus levant Arabic) will basically allow me to get by in most Arab countries.

I might fuck around with Italian too. I hear it's exactly like Spanish. Dutch is also apparently easy for native English speakers to learn.

>>8355444
Fuck off Ernie.

>>8347998

>me tantum dicere possum
wrong. this is not how the accusative + infinitive construction works
>ut melius fieri
a) it's melior since your not neuter
b) ut requires a subjunctive not an infinitive in this case

I could go on, but suffice it to say that your verbs are not correctly positioned, your grasp on the uses of the ablative case seems shaky, and whatever your "Latin" may mean to you, it certainly would have been incomprehensible to Cicero.

I want to learn Russian and/or Polish but I don't know where to begin or if I can even do it.

I was really bad at trying to learn Spanish and French and I know it'll be way harder to learn Slavic shit compared to Romance shit.

>>8357330
Juudi religiooni praktiseerimine lõppes minu perekonnas ära paar põlvkonda tagasi ('35, Stalini purge'd, NSVLi ateistlik iseloom), küll aga olen juudi kogukonna liige. Eestis on juute ca 3 tuhat kui ma ei eksi, enamus neid on sovjett mentaliteediga 60+ venelased, uus põlvkond aga sõidab Iisraelisse (kõige uuem siiski mitte). /pol/ mõttes "globalist jew"e pole, see seltskond mis siin on on pigem Keskerakonna meelne.
Kui teema huvitab, võite astuda läbi 15, 16 ja 17 august 10-17 juudi muuseumist, töötan seal sel ajal.

>>8358283
It does work, since the 'texts' are the subject of the ablative absolute construction.

... Scripto novo donato, possum...
... a new text having been presented, I can...
Or more naturally
After a new text is presented, I can...

>>8357187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZ6qH552oU

>>8358347
Change that 'me' to 'mihi', and as I said above I fucked up the ut clause: change 'fieri' to 'fiam'. The 'melius' is fine is it not? The comparative of 'bene' is 'melius', the neuter of 'melius'.

>>8359042
No your right, it's 'melius'.

Vivere est discere.

>>8348672
Any way to fully download this? Google drive won't zip some files because they're too large.

>>8359135
It's a Google drive form of a torrent, google grammar pile 3.0 to find the original (note it doesn't have a lot of seeders).

>>8359186
Thank you brother.

>>8347832
French

6 years ago, when I was 14, I vacationed in Germany for 2 weeks with my parents, and was at the time considerably attractive for my age. My parents decided to go out one night and left me in the hotel, so I decided to go swimming in the hotel. At the hotel's swimming pool, a cute French girl initiated conversation with me and we traded names, secrets, details about each other's lives, but unfortunately not room numbers. We had planned to both feign sickness the upcoming day so we could meet each other again, in the lobby of the hotel, at 10 am. I was so ecstatic that night in my hotel room (my younger brother and I shared a hotel room, my parents were horny and needed space) that I was on my laptop firstly telling my friend about the transpirations that had occurred earlier and how I was gonna lose my virginity. We played Civ 3 all night, I went to sleep at 5 am or something. The next morning, I just remembered that I was supposed to be feigning sickness, and I actually felt kinda sick from sleep deprivation, and forgot entirely about the French girl's request to meet me at 10 am in the hotel lobby. I later figured that since we met in the swimming pool, she might be there again, so I pretty much swam every second night at the hotel. I met her on my second last night there and she told me she was in love with me and found my personality captivating like no other, or something along those lines. I hadn't the idea of long distance relationships back then and neither did she. I still remember her name, and she's working as a junior secretary at some law firm in Strasbourg now according to her Facebook. I'm getting more fit and I have the potential to regain my attractiveness that I once had due to my height and symmetrical facial structures and masculine facial features, but I'd like to be able to speak with her in French.

>>8347832
Hey guys wanna have 2 minutes of your time saved? ITT:

>No constructive replies whatsoever
>/pol/
>Duolingo is shit
>Duolingo is great

Happy browsing

>>8359240
There's a link to some grammar books you spastic fuck

>>8359215
>>>>/r9k/

>>8358229
lol no

Polish: native
English: Ok
Learning: French.

I also wanna learn Russian (should be easy after the initial hitches), German, Latin and maybe Chinese or Korean.

>>8359191
np

>>8356079
>What's your goal learning this language? The only media in Arabic we get contains the 2 words of ALLAHU AKBAR and nothing else and we don't need to adapt to their culture anyway. White people have no children so in a century everyone will speak Arabic anyway.
what the fuck are you even on about lad

>>8347832

Native French. Fluent in English. I'm learning Japanese, and it's hard as balls.

>>8347980
underrated post

some cringe from /x/ related to this thread
>Who would be a good starting demon to learn languages from for a novice? Ronove or Forneus? What sort of offering would be suffice for that transaction?

>>8349035
Realno, je li ti ostalo išta od tog učenja latinskog?

>>8354616
learn classical chinese
it's memey

Polish, because I'd like to go find an Eastern European wife there in the next year or so.

I should probably be putting more effort into Russian. I speak Polish, and as Russian is relatively similar, it feels like a waste not to learn it too.

I want to learn Polish.

>>8347880
Cs:go

>>8366695
Do it then

>>8358320
if you manage to be fluent in spanish, french will be VERY easy to understand at first

the only differences are in our retarded time/conjugation and since you wont be writing in french that often, a good understanding of spanish will make 60% of french a simplecase of changings the O and the I to OU or E

Why are you learning other languages, and there is so many polyglots amoung you? Obviously, that some of you wouldn't speak this language IRL and you may will not ever visit country where this language is native.

>>8367283
My parents speak two different languages at home, so I know two from there. Though I haven't really studied one of them, russian, my understanding of it is good enough for me. I have also watched a lot of TV in English and German as a child so it was easy to learn those languages at school. This is how I came to know four languages without much effort. That easy.
Currently have no need or motivation to learn a new language. That can change. But it is hard to find a reason, as everything is in English now.
What does understanding WW2 major power related film and games without subtitles give me anyway?

>>8365900

>wants a wife from a shit tier country known for biggest whores in europe

>>8347832
English, because I don't want to stay on this taco country for ever.

>>8367283
because it's fun.

Thanks you /lit/ with threads like this I decided to teach myself French recently. It's only been a couple of weeks but I'm already reading whole paragraphs. At the rate I'm going I should be reading for reading novels in about 6 months. Thanks for letting me know that self-teaching isn't a meme.

>>8369527
great job anon, keep it consistent. try to read wikipedia articles in french, they're typically pretty simple and are a nice method of boosting your vocab.

>>8369530
Currently I read the news everyday in French and I got back into playing paradox games since I changed them to French. I'm only learning to read which makes it a lot easier.

Spanish, english and i wanna learn german, somebody can give me some sources for learn it please?

>>8369585
Everything you could ever want is in this guys link
>>8348672

>>8347832
English and 日本語 (japanese). I travel to Japan a lot, and I'm going to teach English there next year. Even when I was terrible the locals still really appreciate the effort to learn their language, very rewarding.

>>8348696
Czech is pretty cool language but its hard for non-slavic. You know, we have a word Ř and almost third of czech ppl doesnt say it correctly.

Russian myself, I speak egnlish, deutsch, and can read latin comprehensively.
Is there a /lit/ value in learning chinese/japanese/korean? I don't want to waste my time on another european language, and arabic culture seems completely unappealing to me, so I'm thinking about the weeb way

>>8370006
you're a fucking idiot
i hope you get shot before you land
are you trolling to write it in chongzi
seriously kill yrself

>>8370565
learn classical syriac desu

Hey lads,

Anyone can tell me where I can find Ted Talks in different languages? I don't mean the subtitles, but the lecturer actually speaking in a language other than English. I know they exist but I'm having a hard time finding them, maybe I'm just retarded.

>>8372564
desu I'm kind of interested in this too.

If someone wants to learn an easy language that will help them learn other languages (you'll understand grammar rules and things of that nature better) I would recommend ASL.

If you know English then learning all of the words is already done, Plus you get all of the whacky and complex grammar rules. Additionally, if you know ASL, then communicating with people who know a different form of sign language is usually pretty easy after a few minutes.

(on top of that you have a career if you want to go that route)