Can any Germans help me, what is the best physical edition of

What is the platonic ideal physical edition of Plato's complete works?

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>>8335373
>Germans
>he is not fluent in latin
pleb

>>8335395
>latin
Even plebes could speak Latin. The language of the educated was the original Greek.

>>8335395
>Plato
>Latin
Please die

>>8335395
Our languages descend from the latin of the plebes

>>8335395
>implying I would even try to take on a Big Guy like Plato in a non-native language

>>8335398
lolno, shutup

>>8335395
>Latin class in German high school
>copy literally everything from cute girl that was good in Latin
>don't learn anything ever

i fucked up mang

>>8335487
>cute girls
>latin class
Are Latin classes compulsory up there? Here in Switzerland (or at least my Canton, it might differ) Latin class was only for turbo autists and guys with ultra-strict parents.

>>8335645
In Germany we have the Gymnasium, that's where non-retards go after fourth grade to graduate so they can attend universities and so on

In sixth grade you get to choose a third language besides German and English, the most common options are French and Latin, another Gymnasium close to where I went also let you pick Ancient Greek instead of Latin or French
Spanish and Russian can be options in 10th grade depending on your school, the other classe you pick and so on

So Latin class will be filled with people that want to learn Latin and people that don't want to learn French/ think that shit's for fags

>>8335373
That reminds me of those tall pads of paper with pictures on the sides.

>>8335711
>non-retards
Realschule is not bad. Wittgenstein went to one. And now you can take extra exams it can be useful to have a trade, take the exam for university entry and work while studying.

>>8335711
Ah. We automatically have French (since it's the second most popular of the official languages) and English, so Latin is completely optional.

>>8335721
Realschule was much different back then. These days you have to be shitty at school to not get to Gymnasium, as development of global and national economy needs more specialication that can only be provided on university. In all areas the requirements are lowered, e. g. If you exceeded a certain quotient in an english exam you would have failed the exam (5% or something), now if you write something wrong it isn't even automatically an error, if what you wished to say is correct.

>>8335721
That's over 100 years ago.

These days the top 40% graduate the Gymnasium, it's not the elite anymore, it's the norm.

>>8335373
Ugh, the Plato box is so sexy.

nobody adressing ops question seems good

>>8336077
Either everyone is too pleb to own a complete physical Plato collection, or too patrician to own one in German.

>>8335981
The thing that bothers me about German education is Hauptschule. It's like a shitty nursery school for grown children.

I'm not German (obviously) but I've known plenty of people that went realschule and ended up in some of your higher level universities (inasmuch as Germany has those).

>>8336272
You have to put them somewhere, no?

>>8336272
What's the point of offering people that will do manual labor for all their life any form of higher education?

They get te bare minimum they need to get along in life and are then sent off to work in a factory or paint walls, repair toilets or build tables or whatever

>>8336285
I think there's a certain ideology behind this. While you want efficient education with tiering, there is also this social sanitation or quarantine where one whole section of society has little to no interaction with another section. I don't think that produces an efficient society in many ways.

>>8336328
I'm unsure how great it is to have an important divide in education in young still developing kids. And there's some amazing work going in (particularly in Canada of all places) in education of people with learning disabilities that the German system neglects (most systems do to be fair).

It's far from being the worst system (German education is p good really), I just think there's room for improvement there. And I can imagine that if it's left you're going to end up with something like token labour jobs, where you just give the more useless members of society something a bit like prison labour so they have something to do. Or have a sizeable lumpenprole population.

>>8336399
I need someone to repair my toilet and that man does not need to spend four years in a university.

Not everyone who ends up in moron school is some kind of misunderstood genius that just happens to suffer from some learning disability
Even if that was the case it just wouldn't be economical to spend tons of resources on one kid to get him up to the same level as everyone else
You can preach nurture > nature memes all day, but if white trash parents leave their kid in some box in front of the TV for the first six years of his life there isn't much you can do to fix that retroactively

If you are a lazy fucker that can't manage to keep your desk clean in third grade and can't comprehend addition at age 9 you go to retard town and stay there
They should filter people down even harder and increase the pressure until the Gymnasium graduates are back down to the top 15%

>>8335981
>now if you write something wrong it isn't even automatically an error, if what you wished to say is correct.

sounds like American common core

>>8336444
>I need someone to repair my toilet and that man does not need to spend four years in a university.
Toilet repair is more complicated (by quite a long way) than unskilled manual labour. If it was unspecialised dumb labour you'd just do it yourself.

And with the Bologna process it's 3 years for a Bachelor degree across Europe.

You're also being an idiot about very young children having control of their education.

>Not everyone who ends up in moron school is some kind of misunderstood genius that just happens to suffer from some learning disability
I think we're onto willful misunderstanding here but I'm just going to put it down to you being unfamiliar with progress being made in this field. The resources being spent are insignificant compared to the gains (you either have qualified people babysitting people as children who grow up to be serious burdens on society, or you develop the training of the teachers so you have actual productive members of society).

>They should filter people down even harder and increase the pressure until the Gymnasium graduates are back down to the top 15%
This achieves?

>>8335373
Nobody?

>>8335711
I had Russian in 7th grade, happens rarely though afaik.

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Hole dir die Werke in 8 Bänden von der WBG.

>>8338996
only if you read greek and have money, otherwise sämtliche werke by rowohlt is fine and you can probably get all of it used for 20 bucks
unless there's commentary it's just reprinted copyright free schleiermacher anyway

>>8338996
>>8339046
The Rowohlt one is in 4 books, right?
Do you happen to know what to get for Aristoteles as well?
Thanks anon.

>>8335373
The best one is in the OP pic, compressed/stretched into a perfect cube (i.e., a Platonic solid)

>>8339066
I wouldn't recommend the Rowohlt one if you study thoroughly, because i'm pretty sure they have some minor things omitted.
Otherwise go for it.
I believe Philosophische Schriften: 6 Bde. from the Meiner Verlag has all of Aristotles works.

>>8339156
The WBG edition is pretty expensive though, and I don't speak Greek. It's mostly just something for the shelf, I guess I'll have to think about it though.
Thanks.