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"Realistic" Utopian Novels

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I've recently read and enjoyed Island by Huxley and Walden Two by BF Skinner, and I'd like recommendations for other books dealing with utopian societies.
More specifically, I'm looking for intelligent peoples' musings on what a good society would look like and how to achieve it.
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>>8330942
>More specifically, I'm looking for intelligent peoples' musings on what a good society would look like and how to achieve it.
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>>8330946

I actually had that in mind as I typed that sentence...some day I'll bring myself to read it.
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>>8330942
Mein Kampf
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>>8330946
One of the predications of intelligence is the basic understanding that there is no universal good, and that in order for one to gain another must lose.

A society that is optimal for some is necessarily a source of suffering from others.

The only real question is who should suffer?
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>>8331030

Regardless of your implications about those who disagree, I vehemently do.
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You mean children's books.
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