Shit question

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You desire to LIVE "according to Nature"? Oh, you noble Stoics, what fraud of words! Imagine to yourselves a being like Nature, boundlessly extravagant, boundlessly indifferent, without purpose or consideration, without pity or justice, at once fruitful and barren and uncertain: imagine to yourselves INDIFFERENCE as a power—how COULD you live in accordance with such indifference? To live—is not that just endeavouring to be otherwise than this Nature? Is not living valuing, preferring, being unjust, being limited, endeavouring to be different? And granted that your imperative, "living according to Nature," means actually the same as "living according to life"—how could you do DIFFERENTLY? Why should you make a principle out of what you yourselves are, and must be? In reality, however, it is quite otherwise with you: while you pretend to read with rapture the canon of your law in Nature, you want something quite the contrary, you extraordinary stage-players and self-deluders! In your pride you wish to dictate your morals and ideals to Nature, to Nature herself, and to incorporate them therein; you insist that it shall be Nature "according to the Stoa," and would like everything to be made after your own image, as a vast, eternal glorification and generalism of Stoicism! With all your love for truth, you have forced yourselves so long, so persistently, and with such hypnotic rigidity to see Nature FALSELY, that is to say, Stoically, that you are no longer able to see it otherwise—and to crown all, some unfathomable superciliousness gives you the Bedlamite hope that BECAUSE you are able to tyrannize over yourselves—Stoicism is self-tyranny—Nature will also allow herself to be tyrannized over: is not the Stoic a PART of Nature?... But this is an old and everlasting story: what happened in old times with the Stoics still happens today, as soon as ever a philosophy begins to believe in itself. It always creates the world in its own image; it cannot do otherwise; philosophy is this tyrannical impulse itself, the most spiritual Will to Power, the will to "creation of the world," the will to the causa prima.

Seems the general mantra you're looking for is facilitate your own flourishing to the extent you can and don't waste time thinking/doing things which don't converge on this goal effectively.

Now do the rest of the thinking for yourself on how to do this or remain a fuccboi to the philosophers for the rest of your days

>>8311600
But I just started being a fuccboi to philosophers, I want to be a fuccboi a little longer. I've realised what I want but I'd like to see a historically renowned philosopher's take on something similar which may advise me

>>8311610
Then read the rest of the stoic and nietzsche.

But seriously be careful if the reason you're reading (as it seems to be) is to apply it to real world situations of your life. You can get so excited by reading the philosophers takes on how to live that you continually push of 'how to be' because 1. You forever think therell be some new useful nuggets of info to help and 2. When you come to really try to apply this shit to a modern life you realise that it's not as powerful as you first thought. If you've read epictetus carefully, you likely have the 95% of the worthwhile teachings of stoicism with you. If just reading for fun then go ahead but seems unlikely you need anyone to tell you: read the rest of the stoics, read nietzsche or preferably those who came before ti inform him and so on

>>8311623
Cheers anon