/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

>wake up
>great ordeal not out

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>mfw I just figured out a major connection that unifies my fantasy novel and irons out the motivations of five main characters at once
Feels really good. I'm gonna get this, lads.

Not that I plan on pimping it here when I'm done, I'm not getting Tao Lin'd.

17 days until the Great Ordeal

Get hyped you bashrags

>>8206140
what's it about?

>>8206140
Give us the blurb.

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>>8206140
Give him the blurb.

>>8206127
Looking for book recommendations similar to Planescape Torment.

The setting of the game really interests me as a fantasy world that, instead of being wondrous, is filled with danger and disgust.

I know this is a /v/ styled request, but I was told people here, especially in this were knowledgable in this.

>>8206174
fantasy school shootings

>>8206182
Prince of Nothing

>>8206182
I don't know that particular game, but I'll tell you that you'll find way better literature than any game out there 100% of the time story-wise.

>>8206182
Heard Avellone was inspired by The Chronicles of Amber

>>8206190
I read and play games, both are equal in my opinion.

I was more looking for books in a similar vain, or even what the genre is called.

>>8206192
I'll give both a look, thanks!

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>>8206194
>I read and play games, both are equal in my opinion.
>both are equal in my opinion.

>>8206194
>I read and play games, both are equal in my opinion.

The state of /lit/ every one.

>>8206182
>a fantasy world that, instead of being wondrous, is filled with danger and disgust
The Lies of Locke Lamora
The First Law
The Shannara Saga
The Black Company

>>8206194
>I was more looking for books in a similar vain, or even what the genre is called.
I don't know the game in question, it's probably low fantasy or dark fantasy

>>8206176
>>8206174
Oberon, Titania, and the Faery Court took a prank too far and now they're on the run through space and time. They find refugees from the rebellion of Taira no Masakado on a planet that's being reborn as a world of mankind and decide the best way to hide is to settle here and act like they're humans.

In late Heian Japan, an abbess and a pirate did something, betrayal probably, that's going to send their karma to pound town till they've spent a gazillion reincarnations as bugs. Oberon's creditors hire them as spies, on the promise they can trick karma and get their sins blotted out. They need to cross the underworld to the place where Oberon is, pose as nobles, and ingratiate their way to his inner court, so the creditors can get their sweet revenge.

They pick up the narrator, a literate shrine priestess, to pad out their fake family and hopefully marry her off to improve their position, and also because they'll need all the spiritual help they can get crossing the underworld. She gains status having poetry competitions with the fairy city's other inhabitants, some of whom are Romantic poets reincarnated as fantastical creatures, in a vast convoluted tournament that involves trading binding certificates for favors, with the goal of challenging Titania herself.

Hoping to bring up themes of the fake becoming real and of redemption acting on those who think themselves irredeemable. I want to write some really Romanticist-inspired scenes of being overcome by nature, I think it'll mix well with mono no aware, and also have space for cute girls doing cute things.

The connection I made was for the fake parents to be working for Oberon's enemies, before that they were a glorified plot device to take our narrator places. Working title is The Jewel That Smashes The Hammer.

>>8206237
>oberon
ripped from ASOIAF
>titania
>tit

>>8206196
>>8206204
He's the one who thinks PS:T shows a dangerous, disgusting fantasy world. He probably didn't even play a full Lawful Good run.
>Have you forgotten the face of your father?

>>8206182
Last Dragon by JM McDermott
Prince of Nothing

I'm reading WoT now. First book took me two years to read it was so boring, second took me two weeks. I'm really invested now -- all the new characters and dynamics introduced are interesting and/or likeable, except Selene because Rand turns into a drooling tard around her. When does it get shit like I hear?

>>8206135
>wake up
>expecting age of myrh
>it's not tuesday

>>8206240
>doesn't know his fae myths
Fagget

>>8206237
Kinda sounds like Merry Gentry books, the taking the fae court and running bit anyways.

>>8206277
>Merry Gentry
That looks pretty cool. I know there was a bunch of Seelie Court stuff in Dresden Files as well, haven't read any of those though.

>>8206283
>That looks pretty cool.
It had a cool premise, and did well for like the first book. But being written by a woman she let her cunny get in the way.

You have to wade through pages of erotica to get plot and characters. Merry's vagina is versatile she can fuck large red caps(the dip their caps on the blood of their fallen enemies) and walk away afterwards. She even fucked chutulu's bastard love child and like the literal bitch she is she was able to bear multiple children at once and they all have different fathers... sometimes 2 fathers made one child... and then she goes back to stuffing her vagina

I advise you not to read it, i read shit like these so you guys don't have to.

> wake up
> Dark Matter not out

>>8206261

Don't know, I'm at book 7 and it's still going strong.

Also you should figure out pretty quickly who "Selene" actually is.

>>8206322
Criminy. Any other howlers for us?

Will Stormlight Archives be the next big thing?

>>8206334
I assume she's a darkfriend. Possibly Liandrin, with her powers of suggestion and a magic disguise?

>>8206349
They already are? Words of Radiance is the highest rated book on goodreads, from what I've seen

What are some good books with thief guilds and/or assassins that aren't YA trash?

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what's good 'modern' works based on the Arthurian stuff? Or at least stuff that is influenced by it.

>>8206355
You don't hear about it in a wider circle, I guess. And it doesn't have enough sex to make it at HBO, so no GoT-tier fame for it.

>HBO forced to adapt Stormlight anyway
>Shallan and Jasnah nipslip all the time
>OC gay relationship in Bridge 4
>Shoehorned erotic flashbacks

>>8206352

No man, Liandrin is Red Ajah, which means she fucking hates men and especially men who can channel so she wouldn't put the moves on Rand. I won't spoil it tho.

The only complaint I have is that Nynaeve and Elayne get progressively worse and worse, ever more bossy, bitchy and overall obnoxious.

>>8206372
Steinbeck did most of an Arthurian novel, but the absolute best modernism with Arthur is The Once and Future King. Also one of my all-time favorite novels of any kind.

I'm sure there's a cyberpunk Arthur novel where the Round Table is a biker gang but I haven't seen it.

>>8206361
Discworld.

>>8206373
No it'll be Studio Pierrot.

>>8206372

Warlord Trilogy by Cornwell is bretty good. A realistic take on what would Arthur really be like as a 7th century England warlord.

>>8206383
>Studio Zero Sakuga
Not likely, Bleachfag.

>>8206361
Gardens of the Moon.

>>8206331
Gtfo cosmerefag
>>>/v/

>>8206361
Riyria books, lies of locke lamora, Malazan book of the fallen, can't think of anymore atm

>>8206407
There seems to be a misunderstanding. I am talking about Blake Crouch's new book. You know, the one about alternative timelines.

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I'm really digging the cover of this. Anybody read this short story anthology?

>>8206386
>implying I'm not a narutard

>>8206417
I don't know cosmerefag was preaching about Sanderson's comic book and some game dropping on the same day, and it was dark something.

>>8206420
Looks like it's White Sand, actually.

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>>8206372
Half of this chart (I've read Castleview, not Wolfe's best but still alright, Pendragon Protocol and Crystal Cave are p.good)

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>>8206241
>Lawful Good
Mane, Roland was True Neutral.

>>8206373
I don't think we'd get any Cosmere-related film any time soon. The Mistborn movie was a prospect for years and never took off, same with the Mistborn game which is confirmed vaporware at this point.

>>8206420
>preaching
wew lad
Are you the guy who threw a fit about me posting about White Sand a whopping two times? I've done it once more since then. :-)

>>8206434
No, not the comic book , rhe game was named dark something, and he was really indecisive.

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So just finished book three on this and I'm asking myself, why the fuck am I still reading this? Is the fourth one any better or is Abraham just a flash-in-the-pan author who got famous because of The Expanse?

>>8206451
thanks man I'll check em out

>>8206418
Don't judge a book by it's cover.

>>8206463
Look here >>8195251 i did the same shit for long price quartet, I read all 4 books. Then I read the first book of coin and dagger and decided enough was enough.

I need a good audibook for a road trip friends. Fantasy is generally my favorite to listen to on a long trip.

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What are some trashy fantasy books I can read on my morning trainride? I don't mean complete dreck but something that's simple and feels like an old D&D adventure and doesn't require much thought.

>>8206515
Guardians of the Flame.

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>>8206515
Conan the Barbarian

>>8206515
Elric of Melnibone

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>>8206550
>>8206554
>>8206515
Any of these

>>8206515
What do you mean by trashy? Do you like to eat shit too?

>>8206560
>avoid Dhalgren

afraid you'll have to think for once?

>>8206571
Sometimes a greasy cheeseburger can satisfy just as much as a steak.

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>Authors you refuse to read.

>>8206582
You don't refuse, you just know his works are of no value, a waste of time and you chose to spend it on something better.

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>>8206593
>>8206582

Can some one make a list of sjw/leftist Authors?

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>>8206596
>elves

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>>8206560

>>8206596
Why would I?
Also is it a good leftie sffg authors or general, because one would have maybe 15 and the other like 70.

>>8206596
Didn't we just discuss this last thread?

You can't really escape SJW/Leftist authors in /sffg/.

>>8206665
It's easy to escape or rather avoid sjw tier authors because they produce only trash. It's like marxist utopian fiction.

>>8206582
I wish there was a minority author that went on twitter spouting shit straight from /pol/, that would make my day.

>>8206688
You can become a /pol/ writer yourself anon.

>>8206688
And then never get published again and blacklisted from the entire industry.

>>8206721
If they got to that point I think they'd just open a patreon and start self publishing

>>8206768
What do you mean "If they got to that point"?

We're way past that point already.

>>8206378
Figured she might trick him because she hates men, but it was a random thought I had before posting, didn't think it through much.

I quite like how bossy Nynaeve is, partially because it separates her from Egwene, who is more girlish even if she does have an attitude sometimes. I don't want them to become shit, I like them both and always look forward to their chapters. I get to learn more about Aes Sedai AND I get to leave boring Rand, what's not to love?

>>8206804
>likes the Aes Sedai
>thinks Rand is boring

You say that now, but come back to us when you're on book 8 or 9 and see if your opinions haven't reversed.

>>8206781
Are you referring to the publishing industry? I was talking about the individual.

>>8206576
Did you even read the book?
It's touted as scifi but I see no scifi elements other than the fucking laser prisms and the double moon. It's just a book the author used to spread his nasty fetishes to the world. All they do in that book is fuck man/woman/animals, drink, do drugs and vandalize property. Everyone is worshipping a self admitted rapist, who wants to "give it to them gud", and everyone wants a "big buck" to work them over. It's just a clean version of Hogg.

Unless you are going to say it has parallels to society at the time, and seeing that you are a fucking e/lit/ist you probably go around asserting that everything written has meaning, and you look for and attribute meanings to things that don't deserve none.

Please kys.

>>8206830
I assume that now that he has been outed as the Dragon Reborn to the world and has no choice but to accept it he will become more interesting, but up till now he's just reacted like any regular person would. Which I guess most people like in a main character, but I don't, I like someone with a bit of character. Not someone totally wacky, mind you, just someone with a small amount of flavor, like Perrin. The quality of his chapters have mainly depended on who he's with. Loial, Hurin, Lan? Great. Mat? FUCK no. By himself? Time for a nap.

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>>8206607
That's a pretty neat trick, doing pull ups and typing with your feet at the same time? You sir deserve an award.

Will this get better in the later books?
>He waited for a long moment before speaking
>He waited a dozen breaths before...

Hood's breath this author likes to repeat things

>>8207131
We are suppose to know which book you are speaking of?
"Hood's breath" makes me think Malazan, but I'm not sure.

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Recommend some good, dark, serious and moody Sci-Fi books.

>>8206486
Yeah I'm fine with the story being limited on the magic and "epic" nature, but it just feels so bipolar. Is it trying to be a adventure series with Wester, or is it trying to do politics with the bank girl and Lord Regent Autism of Neckbeardia?

I mean I like the basic ideas, low fantasy setting, multiple different races, hints of the stuff about the ancient dragon empire, etc, but it's all just so bipolar and boring. It's like somebody aping GoT for their D&D campaign.

>>8207352
Blindsight

>>8207361
Already read it.

>>8207352
Fifth Head of Cerberus

>>8207368
The sequel too?

>Peter is getting cucked knowingly
Iron Dragons Daughter is truly the strangest fantasy I've read

Anyone got some good books with protagonists of the female variety, preferably petite?

>>8207461
Orphans of Chaos

What's the best but worst written book you've ever read?

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>>8206859
>that picture

>>8207484
What's the squarest circle you've ever contemplated?

is there any half decent lotr fanfiction?

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>>8207352
Revelation Space.

When does the Chronicles of Amber start making sense? I'm confused about literally everything, the fuck is the Shadows, trumps, the pattern etc.?

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>sorting through my folders
>find this

Wish i had something like it for the other two movies. And maybe even for The Hobbit.

Any Hindu inspired SFF that isn't Lord of Light?

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I WILL RECOMMEND ONE BOOK


WRAETHTHU


HAVE A GREAT DAY.

I liked LotR, asoiaf, and WoT.

Where do I go now?

Yes I know I'm an awful pleb and have shit taste.

>>8207877
Jack Vance's Dying Earth

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>>8207707
How are you confused? Corwin will explain everything from the ground up since he's an amnesiac.

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>>8207877
Second Apocalypse

Hurry up, the sixth book is coming out in 10 days.

>>8208057
It got pushed back.

It's coming out on the 12th now, not the 5th

What's the closest thing to GoT that isn't GoT?
(AKA a fantasy book with decent, interesting characters, well-descripted fight scenes and without the feeling of books like Hunger Games?)

>>8208100
You want food porn and ridiculous sex too?

>>8206261
Things slow down in 7 and 8, and 9 and 10 are just downright terrible, though 9 still has an excellent ending. 11 brings the series pretty damn close back to the quality of its peak, and 12-14 are fantastic. Stick with it, it's a phenomenal series if you're willing to put the time into it.

>>8208113
Won't mind them but I can pass, if I get what I wanted.

>>8208100
Prince of Nothing

>>8206852
Damn. The poster immediately got transferred to the intensive burn unit with second degree burns after reading this. RIP

>>8207392
Wait until you see the faith he escaped by cunny diving.

>>8207802
Black Company, City of Stairs, rendezvous with rama.

>>8207484
Red Rising.

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>>8206853
Rand and Mat quickly become the most interesting only to be surpassed by the occasional darkfriend chapters.

The only reason I listen to Egwene or Nyneave chapters is because I don't want to miss plot.

The author made them insufferable cunts on purpose (I assume, since his book tends to point out the strengths and weaknesses of the genders), so I can't fault him for achieving its desired effect.

However, there is likely a better way to do it.

>>8208262
>Rendezvous with Rama
Nigga, the name is as far as the hindu inspiration goes. Unless the spiders, crabs and shit are somehow hindu-based.

That being said, i'm close to finishing it, and after being worried that i won't like it because it's "Nothing Happens: The Book", i actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

But in that strange way that i do with Clarke novels, where i'm left with mixed feelings at the end.

>>8208356
>that pic

Isn't that an extremely capitalistic future? Unless i'm missing a joke there.

>>8208416
That is the joke. However, it's more libertarian/anarcho-capitalist

It basically elucidates a few problems that would arise from a strictly libertarian society (however, it does ignore how self defense would be handled on the bank's part)

>>8207802
Maybe River of Gods by Ian McDonald? I haven't read it so I can't confirm but it's set in future India.

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>>8207802
Pic related, although I haven't gotten around to reading it yet so I don't know if it's shit

>mfw I actually like the whole Bowl Of Winds subplot and the Mat/Nynaeve shenanigans in Ebou Dar

I think Jordan has finally managed to break me.

>>8208937
Stockholm syndrome.

>>8208937

You didn't actually like it you just conditioned yourself to like it but you really don't

What was the name of that novel we were discussing which feminists hated because the headmaster spanks the girl and she gets aroused by it?

>>8209174
Think it was something by John C Wright, but don't quote me on that

>>8209186
That's right, Orphans of Chaos. Thanks buddy.

In your dreams by Tom Holt is quite the downer isn't it?

QUICK!

Night of Knives or Deadhouse Gates first?! Already read Gardens of the Moon.

>>8209248
Deadhouse Gates. Read Night of Knives before The Bonehunters (book 6).

>>8209261
Thanks.

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Any recommendations on books that I can use to research 'the wizarding world'?

I'm trying to plot a wizard community (amongest other things) and want it to be as believable as possible. I'm getting stuck trying to move away from Potter things though.

How else could magic folk keep in contact?
'Ministry of Magic' what else could you call it?

See what I mean? Thanks!

>>8209295
http://sacred-texts.com/grim/kos/index.htm

>>8209295
I hate this book but Name of the Wind has a University which teaches different disciplines of magic. It's essentially Harry Potter but the magic is explained and the characters have no depth. It also takes him half the story to get there, though it continues for the first half of the sequel.

>>8207802
Son of the Black Sword.

Where do you guys get your ebooks (for free of course) from other than the usual torrenting sites? They only have a limited selection for many authors, especially dinosaurs.

>>8209376
Gutenberg for true dino

Otherwise
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

>>8209376
There's not a single book that wasn't in the usual places yet (except book 2 and 3 of Orphans of Chaos series, but that's because they're fairly obscure).

>>8209308
>>8209328
Thank you.

>>8209174
>doesn't read the thread
>doesn't see it was mentioned multiple times

>>8209295
The Magicians by Lev Grossman

>>8209372
I'm reading that and so far it's multiple religions, not just "guy with an elephant head" and "woman with four arms".

>>8208570
>poo in the loo: The Novel

>>8209376

Stop being fossil fuel maybe

>>8209376
Internet Archive has tons of old pulp mags, I just read Michael Shaara's story in Galaxy.
>"In every drunken man the fall of the sober is a happy thing."

>>8207877
Black Company and Malazan Book of the Fallen.

>>8209295
The idea that Wizards wouldn't be apart of or a replacement for clergy is pretty crazy modernism desu senpai

>>8209531

Anon didn't reply for a long time.

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I recently finished the First Law trilogy and I have to say that Glokta is by far the most memorable character of the whole lot, right after Bayaz.

Also, read Sabriel, can't say I really expected to enjoy it as much as I did, here's hoping the other two books I have (Lirael and Abhorsen) are just as good or better.

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everything I have taught you is a lie

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>>8209515
Most dinosaur books are where they belong (the dark ages), you will not find electronic copies of them.

>>8209622
There is another book.... although it didn't live up to the others imo, or maybe because I out grew Abhorsen... not enough daily recommend intake of GRI.

>>8209626
>not helping hype age of myth
Fagget.

>>8209380
Where did you find book one? Or Earthsea?

>>8209378
Thanks

>>8209519
Thanks also

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Has anyone here read this?
I've been meaning to pick it up, although I've heard it can be hard to get into. But a Chinese Science Fiction novel sounds really interesting.

How's Ringworld?

Is it a must read for sci-fi?

>>8209716
The usual places.
>Earthsea
That isn't even obscure dude.

>>8209691

The prequel?

Not interested in it.

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>>8209763

>>8209767

Which Malazan book will have the bridge burners together again?
I don't like these new toons

>>8209778
Stay away from it, gotcha.

>>8209785

Quoted the wrong post?

>To the dismay of those that stood by, about the body of Saruman a grey mist gathered, and rising slowly to a great height like smoke from a fire, as a pale shrouded figure it loomed over the Hill. For a moment it wavered, looking to the West; but out of the West came a cold wind, and it bent away, and with a sigh dissolved into nothing.

I'm still mad this wasn't adapted

>>8209788
You're welcome. Also seeing that Gene Wolfe, Clarke, Friedman, Cook, Dick are on my list, stay away from them too.

Only read conan, gray mouser, and Tolkien.

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>decide to check out the Locus Awards
>every winner has a vagina
Is there a point to even writing fantasy as a man nowadays?

>>8209785
You will like the new "toons." Third book goes back to the Bridgeburners on Genabackis.

>>8209835

Nice.
This gave me motivation to finish the second book

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>>8209827
>my hack genre fiction didn't win a award because woms!

go back to bed vox day.

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>>8209852

>tumblr filename

You're not even bothering to hide anymore, are you?

>>8209827
write under a female or a-sex pseudonym, like Cary.

>>8209827
I don't think anybody even cares about Locus other than Le Guin.

>>8209882
>Cary
That doesn't sound Chinese, try harder.

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>>8209778
>this bizarrely mixed bag again

>>8209626
I hope the digital copy is still coming out on the 5th.

I fucking need it.

>>8209990
>Complaining about mixed bags when you've got Mieville and Moore

Are you being ironic?

I don't normally read big fantasy series because they take too long but i'm getting a bit curious to try one.

What woud you recommend out of Wheel of Time and Malazan?

>>8210003
I guarantee they're both better than Furies of Calderon

>>8209990

who is on the malazan cover
Sorry?
Felisin?

>>8210012
This is a new series, the next book isn't out till next year so you have plenty of time.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26863057-age-of-myth

>>8210032
Tattersail

>so many books I want to listen to
>not enough time to listen to all of them

Why is life so cruel?

>>8210057

Tattersail?

That name is familiar
I don't recall however.

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Weekly reminder Miéville is a plagiarist.

>>8210012
Malazan

>Malazan
I want Reddit to leave.

>>8210071
That's mainly why I read instead, it's way faster while also being easier to comprehend / easier to re-read passages.

>>8210119
Yeah I do struggle a bit at times. Currently doing Malazan book 2 and it can get really diff Iicult.

But I'm a slow reader and I don't have the patience to sit around to do it, where I can go do whatever while listening to audiobooks.

>>8209841
Anon, are you telling me you're not enjoying the Chain of Dogs?

>>8210184

The historian?
not really, and I am getting very butthurt about felisin and now it looks like she might become a god, which makes me increadibly angryred

>>8210077
A Bridgeburner wizard, she died in GothM and "reincarnated" (?) as one of Silverfox' souls.

>>8210203

Ah right, that's the one, yeah now I recall. I didn't remember for a very long time.

>>8210188
>not really
What a shame. It's my favorite episode in the whole series. Just not your cup of tea, I guess.

>I am getting very butthurt about felisin
Keep reading, House of Chains shouldn't disappoint you in this respect. House of Chains is overall a pretty good book.

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Every story I come up with sounds like shit. What do I do?

>>8210372
Realize you're not a writer and just use that time to consume the fiction of others instead.

>>8210372
You write more.

Any recommendation for something like Lovecraft but without Cthulhu?

Got a weird liking to the Eldritch, Corruption and Horror stuff since reading it.

>>8210033
Hmm, would prefer something already finished but thanks for the rec. Will keep it in mind.

>>8210096
It does seem more interesting and lurking here more people talk positively about it than Wot.

>>8210402
Revelation Space

>>8210372
>tfw good at coming up with stories but shit at actually writing them

oh well

>>8210085
how so?

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The German hardcover of Wolfes 'The Knight' book is very pretty.

What should I do if I have a few scifi short stories and novellas that I'd like to publish?

I'm using this as a bit of a litmus test for the quality of my writing, so I'd like to aim for some mid- to high-prestige dealies, if possible. But I don't know anything about the inner workings of the industry or genre.

What would you guys recommend?

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Is he right?

>>8210697
Didn't read but it's not exactly news WoT is trash.

>>8210697
He might be, but damn if Keely isn't one of the snootiest reviewers on all of Goodreads.

>Peter isn't just cucked, he is megacucked
Wow this bizzare novel is well bizzare

>>8210697
Yes there are a lot of good criticisms there but as usual Keely needs to wank over his honourable, virtuous leftism. One of the redeeming qualities of WoT is its realistic portrayal of women and what would happen in a world largely ruled by women. Technology stagnates and nothing gets done while the women bicker amongst themselves, until Rand comes along and sorts everything out.

>>8210708
>weeh this author is bad because misogyny

>>8210723

>WoT
>realistic portrayal of women

are you insane?

>>8210733
Oh, I didn't care about that. But the tone he employs in most of his reviews makes it sound like he is the leading literary critic of our time. Dude's got a swelled head.
>>8210742
>Smooths out skirt a million times

>>8210754
I didn't read this review, it's his general way of talking.
In short, he's a cunt.

I want a fantasy story where God get killed by the protagonist, like a JRPG.

>Peter got cucked so hard he killed himself
Wew lads

>>8210788
Mononoke Hime

>>8210788

The History Of Philosophy

>>8209626
Just finished The Judging Eye and was so hype that I plowed right into The White-Luck Warrior. Trying to get through it before The Great Ordeal comes out.

Jesus fuck this series is amazing.

>>8211036
Reddit is hilariously right wing though. It's like a shittier /pol/ with more moderation

>>8211083
Depends on the subreddit.

>>8211083

>implying

They all wanted Bernie Sanders to win the nomination, they're shitting in their pants about Brexit, and they hate christianity while tolerating the fuck out of islam

>>8211101
All of them? Every single person on every single subreddit? Jesus Christ, you /pol/ kids really do get dumber and dumber with every year.

>>8211101
They literally had to rewrite the algorithm for the subreddit that shows the most popular posts in the page because it was getting flooded with shit from the Trump subreddit. I don't know where the hell people tolerate Islam on reddit, at least on the defaults. The news and worldnews comments read like Stormfront for anything involving the refugees or terrorist

>>8206267
>>8206135
>wake up
>not September 30, 2015
>tfw

So, how hard is the science in Blindsight? I'm usually not a fan of hard scifi but this novel sounds really interesting from what I've heard about it (leaning into horror etc).

>>8211101
Please stop arguing with them, they believe anything right of Marxism is far-right.

>>8210799
Fuck yeah. What are the book equivalents of a Miyazaki movie?

>N.K. Jemisin to write the bridging novel(s) between Mass Effect trilogy and Mass Effect Andromeda

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-mass-effect-books-will-bridge-gap-between-tril/1100-6441256/

What to expect?

>>8211294
Isn't like every Miyazaki film adapted from a book? anyway the guy loves French writers.

But realistically what your looking for is "The King of Elfland's Daughter"

>>8211272
No, I believe literally calling for the deportation of all muslims and a belief in the objective superiority of western culture is far right, both of which are common opinions on reddit's news subs

>>8210402
William Hope Hodgson.

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>>8211347
Take your gaslighting back to /leftypol/.

>>8210593
You don't need to know the industry to publish short stories, it's almost all open submissions.

http://semiprozine.org/semiprozine-directory/
At the bottom is a list of professional magazines like Analog and Asimov's.

>>8211363
>gaslighting
That was EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY during the refugee crisis

>>8211347
I don't see how that is a bad thing.

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>>8211347
>a belief in the objective superiority of western culture is far right
Nobody disbelieves in that. Those that claim to still call on the West to fix everything, prefer living in Western cultures, blame the West for poor decisions made by others, etc.

>>8211379
While I don't agree with either view I'm not arguing whether they're bad or not, I'm arguing whether they're far right or not

>>8211347
.t "Kill the top 62 richest people and distribute their wealth!"

>>8211390
>anyone who disagrees with me must be a hardcore communist

>>8211386
You forgot to blame Walmart for this.

>>8211395
That I don't agree with your extreme of the spectrum doesn't mean I'm on the other extreme, anon. People can have views that aren't radical. In fact, that's most people.

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>>8211398
Guess were we've heard this argument before.

>>8211403
I don't know what's dumber, that you save a screenshot of a random reddit argument for when you call people communists, or that you think I'm a communist because I don't think all muslims should be immediately kicked out from Western nations

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>>8210697

>>8211466
>in a /lit/ thread ...
>not reading shit

>>8211146

Most, anon. It's hyperbole.

>>8211148

Well maybe I'm just not as familiar with reddit as the rest of my pals here on /lit/ :^D

They are all frothing at the mouth about Brexit, and Bernie was enormously popular there. The mods on r/europe were so banhappy about "islamophobes" that users had to create r/european if they wanted to discuss news involving muslims. Yes I know it turned into r/pol but that's not the point. A lot of r/worldnews threads get locked when people break speech codes. I don't know about the donald subreddit, probably an inevitable reaction to the overwhelming liberalism of the other subs.

>>8211272

It's just an observable fact that reddit leans left. 4chan leans right but that doesn't mean there aren't socialists and sjws on here. I don't know why people are giving me grief over this.

>>8211347

>a belief in the objective superiority of western culture is far right

mate. . .

>>8211534
>I don't know why people are giving me grief over this.
See
>>8211363
By convincing you that Reddit is right-wing they essentially trick you into leaning further to the left. It's a common trick used on to guilt people into supporting ever further leftist ideologies.

>>8211534
That means the mods are left-leaning, not reddit in general. That people make alternative subs as a reaction, which then turn immensely popular, should tell you enough. There's people whose job description practically is "reddit mod", they mod up to several hundreds, often including several defaults.

>>8211542
No you fucking tard, it's called an argument. Believe it or not, people who honestly disagree with you exist. They should have taught you that at kindergarten.

>>8211542

There would have to be a wide ranging conspiracy to remove or downvote conservative opinions and upvote liberal opinions. The idea that the majority of redditors are conservatives is just patently ridiculous.

>>8211547

Sounds like a good way to get paid to sit around and masturbate all day. I couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance though.

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>>8211554
>>8211547
>conservatives
Britbong eh? how's that BNP nest called r/unitedkingdom theses days.

>>8211554
Reddit attracts that kind of people. A guy who once was very popular due to answering questions about biology became ostracized once it was known he kept a shit ton of accounts in order to upvote himself for a headstart and downvote people he disagreed with even AFTER he became by far the most popular Reddit user. He also did more convoluted shit like make submissions only to downvote them with his alts right before upvoting the one he actually wanted to be popular

This was right after a bunch of people harassed some teen for hours for correcting him in something about crows

>>8211310
2nd person perspectives and feminism

>>8209536
Can you elaborate on this, please?

>>8211562
What is the orange?

>>8211720
He doesn't know about alchemists or cunning folk.

>>8211738
combine red and yellow. What do you get? Your daily dose.

>>8211325
Only one I knew was from a book was Howl's Moving Castle. Thanks for the rec.

>>8211747
Yeah, I know about both, but I'm trying to come up with a society that goes into hiding during the witch trials. A society which is very suspicious/nervous etc.

>>8211787
I was saying the "wizards are clergy" guy was wrong.

Anyway, you might be able to find inspiration from modern Wiccans. Biggest persecution complexes of any religion I've encountered. Awfully suspicious and nervous.

>>8211802
>Anyway, you might be able to find inspiration from modern Wiccans
That's not a bad idea, actually.

They have no structure, no set practices or anything. Which could make things interesting...

Thanks for the idea.

>>8211554
>sounds like a good way to get paid
They do it for free.

I don't read fiction, but I want to try it. I see this genre as pointless, self-indulgent and not improving you in any way. This view may be a meme at this point, and I've realize it now.

Please, /sffg/ give me your best recommendations. Charts would be appreciated too. If I had a preference of what I am looking for, it'd be something medieval, perhaps dark in tone.

Age of myth tomorrow, I can't handle the wait anymore.
Fuck Sullivan for no GRI, this better be filled with it.

>>8212000
Use this >>8209778 if something grabs your eye google it.
For dark books:
Prince of nothing, first law, malazan, prince of thorn(mind the edge), black company, locke lamora, a song of ice and fire, blood song.

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>tfw people are raging everywhere because they didn't adapt well their favorite series(ASOIAF)

>meanwhile, i'm stuck failing to empatisize with them since i like Robots/Empire/Foundation and LotR more

Maybe if HBO finally starts with the Foundation series i'll be able to get what they mean.

>>8212022
Thanks

>>8212000
Just a slight correction: I mistakenly wrote "fiction" instead of "fantasy**"

Are there any books about a fantasy creature in a normal world that recognizes that its own existence doesn't really make sense? I saw this in a japanese light novel once and wondered if it has been done anywhere before.

How to put pirated ebooks on my Kindle?

>>8212079

Use a proper e-reader such as a laptop or a smartphone.

>>8212079
I don't have a Kindle but I think you can use Calibre to convert.

>>8207352
Hyperion

>>8212119
I know how to convert the file type, I was just wondering if there's a better way than emailing to myself, which means waiting for heaps of books to upload.

>>8212206
Plug it into the PC

>>8211168
>>8211168
p-please respond

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>"Top 10 fantasy books everyone should read"
>The Name of the Wind is on the list

>>8212029
LOL wtf. Foundation series would suck to watch. A character lasts only 40 pages and then the story fast forwards 50 years and the previous character is forgotten.

>>8212000
>pointless, self-indulgent and not improving you in any way.
Isn't all fiction like that?

>>8211347
>objective superiority of western culture
So it's alright to stone queers, right? Rape isn't necessarily something bad, rite?

>>8212410
Correct on both.

>>8211347
Western culture is objectively superior because it produces nations with the most equality, freedom, and tolerance. That's not a rightwing point of view. Islam, on the other hand, is completely antithetical to leftist values. It's not just a religion but a political system. It has no place in the West. At the very least we shouldn't be importing them en masse.

Is Foundation Dinosaur tier or is it actually a fun read?

>>8212000
Prince of Nothing my niggington.

>>8212441
Foundation is dinosaur tier. Asimov's writing falls in to the deus ex machina trap.

>>8211747
In Europe Most alchemists were clergy, or at the very least people educated by the Church (Catholic and Anglican); they had a incredibly good relationship.

In Egypt, India and East Asia it was too practised mainly by monks and priests.

>>8212000
Recommendations you got thus far are those which you'd describe as self indulgent and pointless.
The literary fantasy and sf don't have too many representatives, but you should go with
Fifth Head of Cerberus and Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
Titus Groan by Peake
A Scanner Darkly by Philip K. Dick
The Dispossessed by Ursula le Guin
Nova by Samuel Delany
Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
Children of Hurin by Tolkien
I may have forgotten a few, but this is

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>>8212461
Wow such interesting bo-

>>8212457
(cont)

The Attraction of Alchemy for Monks and Friars in the 13th- 14th Centuries, The American Benedectine.

The Rise of Alchemy in Fourteenth-Century England, Jonathan Hughes.

Spondent Pariter, Pope John XXII.

Pope Clement IV was a patron of both Albertus Magnus and Roger Bacon.

>>8212468
Albert the Great and Roger Bacon were not alchemists.

>>8212471
They literally were, It's documented in their writings.

>>8212474
It's proto science really, alchemy was just something they did alongside various other things.

Cersei is my favorite GoT character

Debate me.

>>8211581
2nd person perspective

is it going to be a choose-your-own-adventure book?

>>8210085
He's also a faggot communist.

>>8212504
She's mine too. What is there to debate over?

>wake up
>TGO not out

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Just a reminder that Gemmell wrote his own version of King's The Dark Tower and did an infinitely better job.

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>>8212504
Close but not quite. Best character coming through.

>>8212504
>>8212516
>>8212541
they're all shit

>>8212532
that title and cover are very off-putting, but I take your word for it

>>8212549
Gemmell's books have never had the best covers, but I'm not bullshitting you when I say he wrote a much better (if more simplified) version of The Dark Tower.

>>8206373
>Implying stormlight archive is ever going to be live-action
They would need at least as much CGI as the Warcraft movie. No, what we need is an animated series, maybe even give it to the japs. By god, if the books aren't animu enough. Or maybe a video game. I would give my left testicle for a Stormlight Archive game

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>>8212461
Look at this proud reptilian parent offering a peek at his prized clutch of books.

>Nova by Delany
Does he bugger any little boys in that one?

>>8212531
>wake up
>smug because i know the next time I wake up age of myth is out

>>8212719
Well obviously literary fantasy recs are going to be older. Being "literary" now just means writing thinly-veiled progressive propaganda.

>>8212549
>>8212532
>Joe Abercrombie endorsing it
I'm scared

I so wish Dino Anon would just up and kill himself, I'm tired of his constant shitposting the same three trite unfunny pictures as if they were real arguments.

>>8212743
t. Redditor who only wants to discuss Malazan, Sandersan and Pratchett

>>8212754
Nice reading comprehension buddie.

>>8212754
>Sandersan
Storm you.

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>>8212743
It was only 2, I just made one last week, and thinking of making another one this week.

>trite unfunny pictures
Someone/others seem to like it, I saw someone call your ass a dinosaur and it wasn't me.

Only dinosaurs have a problem with being called dinosaurs, maybe you should go back to >>>/r/grandpa and discuss all the things you did in your youth, and why young people are stupid because they don't like what you like.

Enjoy the latest pic

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>>8212828
Are you Barneyfag shitposting under another alias? Polite sage for responding.

>>8212847
>alias
We all anonymous cosmerefag, and no, I don't shitpost, if I see a dinosaur getting uppity i put him in his place. It's the same shit you guys do to me when I post my list, you would only have a problem with this if you were a hypocrite.

Also I know you are a filthy dinosaur cosmerefag. I saw you dinosaur posting, without your pics.

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Guys I found his weakness

>>8212915
I don't always speak about it idiot. I had many fruitful arguments about books with anons and you didn't even know it was me. It's only when these grandpa start trolling ppl into their meme series I post dino mode.

You recommended conan and lankhmar for EVERYTHING when people asked for suggestions, that is how the whole dinosaur shit started. People asked for modern books with killing you tell them conan... wtf. Look in the archives if you don't believe me....

I bet you are either Aramfag, or the Gray Faggot masturbator, if my shit hitting so close to home that you went out of your way to "silence" me.

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>>8212935

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>>8212935

What amazes me is that you can't wrap your head around the simplest of concepts, that books should not be judged along lines of new/old but of good/bad instead.

In your demented world, Conan is bad because it's old.

I recommend getting back to r/plebs/, where they will be more than happy to discuss your ebin Malazan and Sanderson anime swordfights.

>>8212954
>>8212944
These meme choices were great. I keked.
t. The original person who gets called a dinosaur

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>>8212935

on your logically unsound "Aramfag" supposition: There are only one or two discourses which will involve me here for now - the denigration of Wolfe, and false accusations of others being me. Personal attacks beyond "your weak and febrile intellect cannot begin to appreciate what you have actually read" do not fall in my purview. Self aggrandizement and sound Wolfe analysis are my hallmarks - all others are mere eidolons. I hope this clears up a few things. I have no interest in this dinosaur discourse. I can be triggered by mention of Borski, however.

>>8212998
Marc, is there any good modern fantasy?
I want to know, for experimental reasons.

>>8213011
Unfortunately my reading of the last 4 years has been research oriented but I don't mind Malazan and Vandermeer's ambergris stuff. Nothing as profound as the New Wave, as I do feel unrealistic ideology has replaced literary depth, as has already been said in this post. Kelly link's short stories are okay but I also feel those attempting for artistic effect (the lady who wrote Jagganeth, for example, or the orange eats creeps) are simply spinning the wheels of a watered down surrealism. I intend to catch up after finishing the project. I found the lynch mediocre and bakker has some genuinely ugly prose due to his proclivity for bizarre names without linguistic sensibility, which leads to hideous sentences. Opening at random makes me want to shake my head. I prefer earlier crowley, zelazny, vance and the true origin of modern fantasy, pre 19th century myth and romance before realism took over. Spenser, shakespeare, marlowe, etc. I don't have a good answer as at this point Wolfe, the new wave, and classic lit are my areas of strong knowledge.

>>8213090
You should try 'The Buried Giant' by Ishiguro. It's pretty short and literary fantasy.

>>8213096
Thanks it is qued on my kindle ... I was very disappointed by the limp wristed inutility of the characters in Never Let Me Go. Low test in that book even with the adolescent sex. A real man would not let himself be transplanted to death by an uncaring aristocracy without at least considering how to take someone with him, regardless of education.

>>8213112
>missing the point of Never Let Me Go this hard
Maybe something like the Hunger Games would be better for you

>>8206463
Is it bad that I like this series?

>>8212383
There's always Baley and the others.

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How can AI be a relality when computers use a binary coding system, yet organic life uses the quad-ary coding of DNA? (ATCG+U)?

>>8213820
>asking your questions on /sff/ instead of /sci/

I hate you, but I can't help but respect you.

>>8213820
Your question makes no sense. Information exists independently of encoding. Binary, octal, hexadecimal, your quad-thingy, all convey the same information.

>>8212944
Fucking frog poster

>>8213369
No different strokes for different folks, I hated it because I was promised magic, and got a fat "ha, ha" with some kid's finger pointed at me.

>>8213820
The second reply already answered you, but I think people should leave aside implementation questions about general artificial intelligence for now. Our knowledge of the human brain is still far too sparse to be able to replicate it.

Since no one has bothered to link it yet, and the the Sandersonfag :3 forgot to title it.

ABANDON SHIP
>>8212924
>>8212924
>>8212924