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War, what is it good for?

>>7861141

war is the place where the noblest virtues of man are tested; duty, loyalty, self-sacrifice, bravery, mercy.

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>>7861165
Interesting take on things. WWII definitely produced a lot of important thinkers.

How do I get rid of feet warts

>>7861225
Wear shoes

>>7861141
aesthetics

the image of men clad in armour fighting to the death is beautiful

if you can fight any author, who would it be?

Plato for me.

>>7861461
Stephanie Meyer

>>7861468
i didnt mean hate fight

more like

fight club fite

>>7861484
The correct answer is Hemingway

>>7861225
stab it with a sanitized pin

What books are similar to Oblomov or would you recommend to someone who really liked it?

>>7861141
to advance in technologies achivements

>>7861141
KEK

>>7861461
Wilde.
It will be a fight between 2 beta faggots.

how many technologies achievements will the west achieve today?

>>7861598
lots

>>7861650
gender and sexuality are fluid anyway, who cares

is anyone else bugged by "I" in the Republic's first book being Socrates and Plato just totally removing himself from it? Because that just seems wrong.

>>7861598
If you read Prometheus Rising you would know this

>>7861650
You have to try this hypotheses out to discover.

invisible cities or if on a winters night a traveler first?

>>7862011
If on a Winter's Night

what are the most essential books to read?

>>7862056
Iliad, Odyssey, Ulysses, Lolita

>>7862056
Greeks.

Last night my brother asked me for a short book (emphasis on the short) for him to read. I showed him
>Slaughterhouse 5 - Vonnegut
>Something Wicked This Way Comes - Bradbury
>The Dalkey Archive - O'Brien
He chose SH5. How pleb is he?

What's a good coming-of-age story for a manchild that never grew up?

>>7862122
The Magic Mountain.

>>7861137
I want to create pure Aryan art. How can I cleanse my writing of all Jewishness?

>>7862062
>ulysses
>odyssey
Why both? One is a rewriting of another. Lol

>>7862146
b8

Anything i should read before IJ?

>>7861587
or we could just study and develop technology and not kill each other.
This idea is like saying jobs are good. Which is not true jobs are not inherently good money is good to have and if you could get money without the job a lot of jobs would be abandoned.

I'm interested in modernist literature. Where should I start with Ford Madox Ford?

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Are half of these books fake? I can't find Cypress Funeral or Internet Dreams

>>7862056
infinite jest, alice in wonderland

One of my english teachers said that the movie Lolita didn't make sense because they showed her age in the movie. In the book he said there was no indication of her age until Humbert and Haze are at the hotel and one of the hotel customer says something like are you going to fuck her? I don't get how that makes any sense. We know early on that Humbert is a pedophile.

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What's a better starting point for Woolf; The Waves or To The Lighthouse?

where do I start with philosophy? the Greeks?
if so, which ones?

>>7862595
Read the book and call him out for being an imperceptive hack.

>>7862627
Prometheus Rising

Is it bringing my writing to the noose before the pen hits the paper for my character focussed story to be set in Australia? Arid, stereotypically uncultured; a wholly unromantic land when compared to elsewhere.

Why was I cursed with this godless land.

>>7862733
Dude we need more good Aussie literature. We wont escape the 'uncultured' stereotype if everyone keeps writing about big bro America. Be the change you want to see in the world.

>>7862584
don't worry, they will manifest themselves when you reach the appropriate level of patricianhood.

>>7862759
Thanks man, I will set it here. You make a boy dream big.

Why did I fall in love with someone loveless, /lit/?

And how do I use it to my advantage?

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Who are some writers similar to Richard Yates? I love all of his work so far and I'm beginning to run out of material to read from him.

>>7862988
Isn't Yates a writer for normies?

>>7863001
Nein.

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Where should I begin/whats his best/whats your personal favorite?

>>7862122
Catcher in the Rye

>>7862122
Dune

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should i become a psychologist, if so, what branch?

>>7862133

Goddamn, don't go hardmode on the fella

>>7862141

Put it in the oven

>>7863031
Psychoanalysis, of course. Speech is just a text.

>>7863013

Hyperion

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>>7862627
also people will talk shit but r/philosophy has a very accessible if incomplete and disorganized reading list.

>>7861657
I've never understood the term "fluid" attached to sexuality and gender.
What does it mean?

How to get a girl to have sex without asking her out on a date

>>7863065
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_performativity

TLDR regulative discourse influences us on a subconscious level so that aspects of our identity that we think of as "natural" are actually us "performing" for society

>>7863071
Pay moneys
Or find one with a crush on you

recommended English translation of Fear and Trembling?

What books are similar to Oblomov or would you recommend to someone who really liked it?

Someone answer my question pls

>>7861165
Good answer friend

How do I write a sort of Lovecraftian story but without it actually being Lovecraftian? Mine has no monsters or nameless horrors, but it involves an omnipresent dread.

Why is genre fiction so frowned upon here?

>>7863063
most of this is mythology, though. Should I start there anyways, or only read the blue-outlined ones?

I enjoyed Old Man and the Sea. Where do I go next with Hemmingway?

>>7862601
the latter

>tfw the first few pages of Crying of Lot 49 were overwhelming as fuck for me and I hated it
And this is supposed to be the easy Pynchon. Should I bother, or is he just not for me? English second language btw.

>>7863483

I can't tell you how to write it, that's kinda up to you, but there are many things that could bring about cosmic dread if you just shine the light upon it. Lovecraft didn't invent nor does he have a copyright on cosmic horror.

Take the Nibiru theory and just run with it. Write a story about a rogue planet or some other large mass that flies by the so close to the earth that the earth is shifted much further out of its orbit or ejected from the solar system completely. the horror of the human race as it comes to terms with it's demise would be fascinating.


Cosmic dread is about tiny humanity coming to understand its true place in the cosmos and the universe's utter disregard of human existence or feeling.

How do I get into Heraclitus? I have read his fragments but it's not enough.

>>7861137
Hey /lit/, I'm trying to find a quote. It's about when men kill the emotion inside themselves, they become animals or beasts or monsters. Or when they callous their heart they become animals. Do any of you know the full quote?

>>7864113
You don't? The Presocratics were very barren in their determinations, there was no systematic knowledge yet.

>>7864115
>He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

samuel johnson

Which Fyodor Dostoyevsky's works have you read? Which one did you like the most?

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WHY THE FUCK IS FLIPMORAN NEVER ON #BOOKZ?! That son of a bitch is never on and he has the most books and I can't find the shit I want from him anywhere else GODDAMNIT

Is there something I'm missing? Is this dickhead only there to torment users?

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>>7862627
>>7862718
>this

>>7861657
>gender and sexuality are fluid anyway

big fucking claim anon

>>7861225
apple cider vinegar
>>7862011
get invisible cities if you like spicy food
>>7862595
your teacher is hilariously unqualified
>>7862988
Walt Whitman or Milan Kundera maybe
>>7863031
Go into psychology if you're willing to get a graduates at least. You're interested in a pretty competitive field.
>>7863689
Mythology is the basis and cultural context for a lot of early philosophy.
>>7863868
He probably isn't for you *yet*. A lot of his work hangs on American pop culture as well
>>7863483
Dread comes from expectations so you'll need to focus on tone and implications which all require subtlety
>>7864175
Demons, The Brothers Karamazov, and The Insulted and Humiliated are all bretty good. Between all of them probably Demons.

>>7863107
A human is fluid as it pertains to Gender and Sexuality.
But Gender and Sexuality are not fluid, they are constant descriptors.
A man may fluidly change into a woman (arguable, but let's suppose its true for the time being)
And a humans sexuality may be fluid, between straight or gay.
But the classification of Male (as a gender) or Female can never change places, or be fluid.
Same goes for Sexuality, the terms have their implicit meaning, and they do not change.
Only the human is fluid.
So how is it that Gender and Sexuality are fluid?

>>7864421
might we hypothesize that all terms are fluid depending on the conditions of various language games and the subjects conception of the signifiers?

that is if we even accept the metaphysical notion of words denoting objects or ideas

>>7863689
much of what Plato and Aristotle say need context which can be best gotten from understanding the world he was writing in. You should be familiar with he history and mythology of Greece before you begin with the pre socratics.

>>7864458
I suppose you could, but until people can communicate telepathically the idea that all terms are fluid is detrimental to communication.
We use words to communicate so we can share our perspectives and experiences in such a way that is relatable to the listener.
If we were all at once to accept that terms are fluid depending on the condition, it doesn't make a difference to their meaning unless we apply that attribute of fluidity.
Causing complete and utter mayhem and special snowflake catastrophe.
Every word would be misunderstood if we applied them in our own ideas of "fluid"
and from misunderstanding does conflict most arise.

>>7864509
just because it's detrimental to communication doesn't mean it isn't the case

just because we have to pretend it isn't the case for this conversation to happen doesn't mean it isn't the case.

>>7864421
Gender is a shit descriptor anyway, just use sex and a whole lot is cleared up.

>>7864516
I agree with that, but the hypothesizing is really useless unless you apply the theory.
And applying the theory would result in a big ol' fashioned shit show.
Until people can figure out a way to communicate that doesn't rely on preconceptions and universally agreed meanings for our symbols, then we should stick to it.
>>7864550
Agree with this. I was using those terms to be on the same page as the person I was responding to.
I'm not going to put words in his mouth and then argue about them, that would just be silly.
Still, I agree with you that Gender need not be a descriptor at all, and that Sex is the superior

>>7864187
Am I the only one who uses #bookz?

>>7864676
yeah, why would you use IRC in 2016 lmao

can get everything there everywhere else

Did Camus actually said that quote about coffee? I can't even remember the actual quote, it's something like "I don't kill myself because I like coffee too much".

>>7864144
Thank you!

>>7864681
Sources?

I'm aware of bookzz.org and book4you.org

I'm planning on writing my own book
It starts with the MC being in a battle but is somehow taken away, and comes back hours later to find his buddies all dead

What i planned was this
He's thrown off of a cliff and into the ocean, then he's washed up on land and wake up hours later
Is that alright, or does it sound dumb? Would it be probable that a battle was fought on top of a cliff, or that he'd survive the fall, or should i rewrite it?

>>7864896
depends on the story

keep the tone consistent

>>7864908
Well, i want it to be a somewhat serious story

But i mean, would it have been stupid of two forces to meet over a cliff? Wouldn't both forces have avoided the battle taking place there if they could?

BTW: the battle takes place not far from a minor city, if it makes any difference

>>7864954
>But i mean, would it have been stupid of two forces to meet over a cliff? Wouldn't both forces have avoided the battle taking place there if they could?
I don't think so. It would be even more logical if the tone of the battle is epic. When is the battle settled, if it is settled in time?

What is "YA shit"?

>>7865046
You could have just googled that. Young Adult, stuff like John Green, Hunger Games etc.

Should I read Aristotle's Metaphysics before Nicomachean Ethics?

>>7865024
It's supposed to be the start of the story
MC gets thrown away, and when he gets back there, the battle is over, and everyone else is dead, including the ones in the city
So the rest of the battle won't be shown, just the point up until MC is knocked out, and then the aftermath
He then has to find his way back to civilization, but avoid enemy forces

Long shot but here we go:

In Gravity's Rainbow, somewhere midway-ish through the book, Slothrop is in the Zone and having a dream about a chick who fucks animals, kisses the hoof of a horse and like drowns in a river and all sorts of animals come out of her vagina. Or something like that. I liked that bit and would like to reread it but was foolish enough not to mark it and can't find it anymore, even though I think the formatting was different than the normal text. Could anyone point me to the correct page? I have the 902 page Vintage Classics edition (with the colourful rocket silhouettes on the background), but can find it myself if you give me the page in a different edition.

>>7865060
I would try to think up a reason for MC to have left everyone of his own volition, like pursuing an enemy he has a personal grudge against. That way when he comes back you can get stuck into some nice survivor's guilt feels. No one's going to blame themselves for falling off a cliff.

>>7865110
That's a good idea
I can't take it straight like that, though, first off because it doesn't work with the story that MC knows any of the enemies personally, and because i was hoping to make him a commanding officer

But i think i can work it out

Got any more advise?

Who is the Ayn Rand of Communism/Socialism?

>>7865232
Well maybe could stick with the cliff idea but acknowledge the unlikeliness of it in the story. Have MC lament that God or fate or whatever is taunting him by keeping him alive and alone as punishment for failing to protect those in his charge.

>>7864261
>>7864465
ok thanks anons

>>7865341

G. A. Cohen

>Turned Marx into an analytic economic paradigm to make fatstax on the Market and rejected all political positions and opted for liberalism instead.

If by Ayn Rand you mean shit-tier philosopher that has a cult following then: Trotsky

>>7865425
I just meant someone who wrote novels envisioning an ideal communist society, or perhaps just novels that show the weakness of capitalism/strength of communism. Thanks for the rec though, I'll look into it.

>>7865376
thanks, i'll work it out from here

Where should one start with Kawabata? Snow Country? It seems to be his most popular one, but I'm not sure I'm in the mood for something romance oriented.

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>>7861137
Why shouldn't a newbie start with Descartes?

What's wrong with the left and why are there so many intelligent, well educated and well read people defending it?

Why do these leftists behave/talk like preschool kids?

What's wrong with the right and why are there so many intelligent, well educated and well read people defending it?

Why do these rightists behave/talk like bitter man-children?

Why do these people even need "left" and "right"? This is such bullshit.

Where can I learn about the Megaric school of philosophy?

>>7861137
Is this real life?

>>7865435
In what sense is that like Rand? She neither praised communism nor wrote ideal visions of capitalist/Randian/objectivist societies.

>>7861596
keked

Is it worth it to NOT skim the last chapter of Ulysses?

>>7865760
>Snow Country
>romance oriented

Read buddenbrooks a while back, anything else like it?

I was recently bothered by learning that a girl I met has had a lot of casual sex in the past. She clearly likes me.

What is more beta, to reject her (punishing her for past choices I disagree with, even though they don't affect me) or to date her (not letting her past bother me)?

I can't decide.

>>7865914
it doesn't really matter its not really a plot oriented book. Could could read the chapters in any order really

>>7865935
read Stirner or Nietzsche

>>7865935
Making decisions on how "beta" the outcome makes you is idiotic

>>7865935
The latter. Sluts should be treated like what they are, sluts. Think of all the loyal and cute virgins you could be dating instead.

>>7865935
>even though they don't affect me
this is wrong, my man

>>7865943
Cute and loyal virgins are really uncommon. The ones who exist tend to have really high expectations.

>>7865955
In my experience that isn't true. I guess these are all just personal anecdotes though

>>7865935
That depends if it bothers because you really do disagree with it, or if it bothers you because of what other people might think of it (as your preoccupation with beta-ness would suggest).

>>7865976
Are you Arab, lol?

>>7865980
I'm not so sure. My peers wouldn't judge me, because dating promiscuous girls is not socially discouraged. Most "alpha" dudes date women who have had sex with lots of people like them before.

It bothers me that I'm not her first, but I don't know why it should. A huge part of it is that I'm a virgin (although I've done everything but), but even if I wasn't, I'd prefer a girl who was fully committed to me. If this person and I get together and then break up, I'll be just another ex. If she was a virgin, I'd be the ex she'd remember for the rest of her life.

According to Kant is abortion unethical ?
Can we specify an act in a way that it's acceptable as a universal law?
For example abortion when teratogenesis is evident.

>>7861137
Should I read the collected works of Diogenes before Plato and Aristotle?

Does anyone have experience with the "Great Books of the Western World" books? I hear the text is poor and they aren't books you sit to read in comfort but references.

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So this is bullshit, right?

It's one thing to say the Frankfurt school were a corrosive cultural influence, but this mastermind shit doesn't seen accurate. Is any of this shit like 'promotion of excessive drinking' or 'creation of racism offenses' even true in the slightest?

Not to mention the Willi Munzenberg quote, which I can't find any source for.

>>>7866184
Scapegoats and symbolism anon, learn to identify and disregard them.

>>7863755

Why?

Not questioning your judgement good man just curious.

>>7865851
She vehemently praised capitalism, and her novels (especially Anthem) are centered around her ideas of individualism/anti-collectivism and the superiority of capitalism/the free market.

Besides Inherent Vice, what is the most pynchonesque film?

>>7866389
the waves is an experimental work, it's like starting joyce with finnegans wake (obviously a hyperbole here, it's not as difficult). to the lighthouse gives you a better picture of the authors style. waves also came out quite a bit after her other big works, so you can see how she developed in it which is nice but only if you know her previous works.

>>7867467
Ulysses.

>>7868006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJGBcD-YefM

>>7862627
Read the CSM translation of Meditations on First Philosophy.

How do i start with the greeks? Homer? Which of his works

>>7862090
Something Wicked is more explicitly targeted at teenage kids (still v. good) as it's a coming-of-age tale, O'Brien is a minor author he won't have heard of, and Slaughterhouse 5 is a classic even if it is a bit weird and shit.

>>7868067
There are only two.

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>>7861137
How do you write suspenseful scenes in horror?

I'm new to /lit/ but I've had a few ideas for some short horror stories for a while now, I just don't know how to translate that suspense from my mind into the written word.

>>7868143
why don't you read some and see

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>>7868146
Fair point... I guess I'm coming from the hypocritical position that I do not care for reading horror but I want to write it.

What reads would you suggest?

>>7861141
Jobs

>>7865092

How does anyone take Pynchon seriously. I'm not memeing. Please explain it to me, I don't understand how his writing isn't regarded as pseud trash it's so one dimensional

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Wow great thread.

All right. Here's a question that's probably been asked a million times.

I'm almost finished my first book, which is fucking incredible because I've never finished a book in 10+ years of writing great starts to novels that turn out shit. I'm really proud of this one, and I think it's really important that it get out there.

I've got two problems. One, I'm not sure if I should find an agent or if I should just go Amazon.

Two, if I do go the agent route, I have no idea who would even consider this, because in its essentiality, it is gay sadomasochistic vampire erotica with overtones of extreme pain play and themes of domestic and mental abuse. Kinda started out as a porn and evolved into this really elaborate and deep-thinking story that I now have straight people following on Literotica.

I don't know if an agent would consider this kind of thing. If they would, I'm not even sure where to start looking. I heard that it's best to find an agent who has previously published books that represent your work, so I was trying to find whoever helped out Poppy Z. Brite with her/his works. Can't seem to find them.

... Thoughts, I guess?

>>7868491
Don't make gay shit you sick fuck.

>>7868495
Everything I write turns out gay, I can't keep it in my pants and all my female characters are cookie cutters.

>>7868497
Cut it off.

>>7868501
I was kind of expecting an answer I wasn't going to get on /b/.

Like... a non-homophobic answer.

>>7868503
Homos rightfully shouldn't be accepted anywhere, faggot.

>>7868505
Tell that to Oscar Wilde :U

>>7861141
Absolutely nothin'

>>7868491
>literotica
>gay vampire homosex
Go Amazon. Also most of your readers will be straight women FYI.

What do you tell people who spout off nonsense like "what's up with all this analysis? maybe the curtains were fucking blue amirite???"

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>>7868536
Shit happens.
Problem is it's taken a life of its own and half of the recent chapters have zero sex in them.

Buuuut... The ratings are good?

>>7868540
I say sometimes the curtains are just blue.

I wrote something where the main character regularly dyes his hair. There was a lot of speculation that this represented some part o himself that blah blah blah he wants to change and blah blah blah. Fact is that's true but it has nothing to do with his hair color. I ended up throwing a discussion in there just to say "Hey, sometimes blue hair is just blue hair."

Got given Sylvia Plath's Diaries, collected poems and The Bell Jar for my birthday. I never asked for them but am intrigued. What order should I read them in?

I was thinking TBJ, Poems, diaries.

>>7868582
Sounds like the most logical route. Then you're not going "Oh, so that's totally why she wrote such and such" if you read the diaries before something else.

And make sure to keep your oven handy.

Why are all YA book covers so shit?

>>7868593
... Actually a good question.

>>7861137
Last two weeks I have trouble wiping myself clean. I take a shit, wipe myself till my ass is bleeding, but if I wipe an hour later, the paper is light brown again. What do I do.

>>7868067
Iliad then Odyssey

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>>7868593
I think this one looks neat

>>7868605
Baby wipes. You'll never go paper again.

>>7868615
I beg your pardon,but I disagree

>>7868615
If it didn't look like The Fault in our Stars with a feather on it.

>>7868617
I do use baby wipes.

>>7868636
But it's got both a penis and a vagina on it, that has to count for something

>>7868587
I considered the diaries first for context, but I thought that might make TBJ and her poetry a little too "obvious". It seems more enjoyable to try and have my own interpretations first and then find out the meaning.

I turned 27 a few months ago so I've got a year to get a gas oven.

>>7868640
See a doctor.

>>7868647
No no, that's just the dick hole.

>>7868648
Unfortunately knowing that she committed suicide in the oven that she used to bake things when she was depressed already gives me way too much context to enjoy her works.

>>7868605
Stop wiping your ass with paper, not only it doesn't clean the shit (it just smears it all over the place), it hurts your anus as well. Clean it with water and soap whenever possible.

>>7868653
...

I bake things to distract me from my depression. I feel that this endeavour may be fatal.

>>7868718
DON'T DO IT ANON.

DON'T GO SYLVIA PLATH ON US

Is there something wrong with me for not liking The Process at all?

>>7868153
Poe's short stories are pretty classic and full of tension. I read The Tell-Tale Heart and The Black Cat for a class and they are both worth reading, plus they're short.

>>7868540
Tell them to learn what literary analysis is. Sure, the curtains might just be blue, but if the color blue shows up a lot in the story, or if there are other curtains, you could extract meaning from that. Literary analysis is pretty subjective and it's just based off of interesting arguments, so saying "the curtains are just blue lel" is either a display of ignorance, or (rarely) it's the statement that you don't have enough evidence to make a compelling argument about what the blue curtains mean.

>>7861137
What's the deal with Nick Land?

>>7869183

He's summoning elder gods from the future and it's scary-cool af.

Resident pleb here. What language should I learn to be able to read the best books in their original language?

Ulysses, 1961 or 1922?

>>7869320
Japanese

>>7869326
61

What's a good website for me to start a blog on that won't cost me money?

>>7869347
Isn't blogspot free?

Don't know, brand new to blogging, just keep hearing I'm a good writer and should start a blog.

>>7869330
Why Japanese?

>>7869331
Why '61?

>>7869350
Blogs suck. They're vanity pages for people no one cares about.

Like you've literally done nothing important in your life other than write a blog.

>>7869320
The one with the books that interest you most...

For me it would be Russian.

>>7869403
I guess English.

>>7862587
Not trying to b8 here, just an entry-level geezer. But can you explain why Infinite Jest is held in such high regard? And potentially what I'd walk away with after reading it

going to france on saturday. if you could all suggest one book each that i can read to pass the time while I'm there that would great. bonus points if it's easy to pirate.

>>7868524
Say it again.

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This shirt: yay or nay?

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>>7869531

Can somebody explain this to me.
When you use the forward-slash (/) symbol in this context:
>I need to remember to purchase rice, chicken, apples/oranges.
The (/) symbol denotes 'one of the two', not 'both of these two fruits', right?
If that's true, please tell me. Also, does (//) mean 'both'?

>>7869475
You're getting memed. Infinite jest is drivel

Did any famous authors/philosophers not have crippling depression?

>>7869637
>The (/) symbol denotes 'one of the two', not 'both of these two fruits', right?
Correct
>does (//) mean 'both'?
I've never in my life seen somebody use // in a sentence. Can you give an example of where you've seen it? It could've been a typo.

>>7868067
you scroll up in this very thread and follow >>7863063
chart

>>7869535
books at ringside

War and Peace: is Constance Garnett an acceptable translation?

Anthony Briggs?

these two are just most convenient to me. for the record i had no issues with getting through Magarshack's TBK, and it apparently has a pretty mixed reception

FYI

>>7866184
Cultural Marxism is difficult to disentangle

Yes there were/are radical Jews who consciously want to "erode Western society" (for various reasons)

Yes there probably are major power blocs, with Jews heavily overrepresented, that understand the value of turning populations into ghettoized soups (if you're a Marxist/socialist, immigration is the perfect bourgeois attack against class consciousness; if you're right wing, it's the perfect bourgeois attack of technocracy against healthy cultures)

Yes Kevin McDonald is mostly right

Yes he's also a neo-Nazi (they drove him nuts by shitting on him, but he had leanings to begin with)

Yes the Frankfurt School can be and is often incorporated into types of leftism that privilege extreme relativism and the destruction of Western institutions and "values," and yes the Frankfurt scholars themselves may have had various utopian things that seem dystopian to right wingers or even centrists, but they were fundamentally culture critics and not conspiracy theorists

But yes, they did do conspiratorial things and try to influence mainstream culture and politics as well

Fundamentally, in the few places they really rub up against /pol/'s sensibilities, they are more symptomatic of the "degeneracy," self-loathing, doubt, and ultra-relativism of the 20th century than originally causative of it. Their critiques are actually useful and good too.

Jews are difficult. They are chauvinist fuckers with group solidarity and lots of nepotism, but most of them aren't consciously conspiratorial, even and the ones who are conspiratorial are usually boring about it (just opportunists or Israel hawks, not grand masterminds).

>>7870631
>>7866184
Also yes there was concerted effort to open up immigration laws and get rid of filters, in ways that were detrimental to the host countries. McDonald is right about that. Many Jews used their power and influence to make the US a safe haven for massive amounts of Jew refugees and emigrants, many of them radical.

There are a lot of mutually supporting fibers to it, but in the end, the "Great Jew Conspiracy" is a red herring. Jews are congenitally brilliant and congenitally schizophrenic perpetually survival-mode nepotists without a home. They do some weird stuff sometimes and some of them are involved in conspiratorial shit but they are not the Illuminati.

>>7861137
>>7869333

can anyone come here and look at my OC? tell me what you think?

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>>7865935
People are never perfect. Who cares if a girl fell in love and had a good time in her youth? It didn’t hurt anybody. And I say this as a conservative and a virgin.

>>7870631

This

What are some good books that derive their humor from absurd situations? I love Catch-22 and have read most of Kafka. I'm thinking of reading Gravity's Rainbow next, any other suggestions?

>>7865999
>If this person and I get together and then break up, I'll be just another ex. If she was a virgin, I'd be the ex she'd remember for the rest of her life.
I think you should avoid relationships until you're no longer so soft hearted.

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>>7861319
the best reason i think ive heard.
like, why else would they dress like this?

>>7871004

Hasek- the good soldier sveik

>>7864692
"Should i an hero or have a cup of coffee"

>>7861165

>killing, raping, and maiming people for natural resources

>noble

Lel

How do I avoid suicide in the face of numerous college rejections

>>7871133
I'm sure each individual warrior cares deeply about the resources at play.

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>>7871140
There's no right way to do life.

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>>7871140


tfw got into berkeley and am attending

>>7871169
I mean, so did I but I don't want to go to a huge asian STEMfag school- I'm bummed about the privates. Maybe Ivy Day will heal some wounds.

What is the /lit/ equivalent of kino?

>>7871169
>>7871186
Both of you will one day realize that the college search is any empty attempt at fulfillment and meaning - even moreso if you're pressured by your parents.

I got into a few schools I had originally wanted to attend (including Cal) but ended up going to a JC and am now at MIT. Life is pretty great when you understand what your wants are versus the wants and pressures of those around you.

>>7871208
Look into Japanese aesthetics and haiku, senpai.

>>7866184
>So this is bullshit, right?

no, about half of ""European""" leftist revolutionaries have been Jews. Socialism, Freudianism, Critical Theory etc are all built around the Jewish tradition. Read the Talmud if you want to understand why the European well is being poisoned.

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Is there a book where the protagonist is a financial slave, you know sending money to roasties online without ever touching them or seeing them naked?

Why do cucks do that shit? Just recently I saw gorgeous gamer girl getting 14k sent by some spastic. wew lad, boobies are so profitable.

Are there any fantasy novels or books where the bad guys win?

>>7871377

I wanted to write fiction not fantasy, sorry

>>7871377
The Trial

>>7865935
You fuck her, find out if you like her personality. If not you bounce. If she can match you intellectually you find out if she would be a cool friend. You allow for you to both fall in love, maybe you leave her cause she wont work on her shit, deal with the lose if need be, grieve it, be inspired by the connection and maybe grow a bit.


My man, was that really that hard? What the fuck is wrong with men these days?

But you fuck her, and you learn that people are just chillin waiting for you to interact with them.

>>7871383
>If she can match you intellectually

That is almost impossible unless the guy is very, very dumb.

>>7871246
this is an important thing to hear young people in this thread.
Yet, Unless you have some good self narration of your history, or spent some time deeply reflecting with another about yourself or another object that allowed for personal critique it might just sound like empty old person jibber

>>7865935
You should at least go test drive to figure out how much her experience improved her performance

>>7871383
men have always been scared about fucking women, what if it makes them love each other? What if someone cries, I always hate it when someone cries.

>>7871389

Or, dare I say it, the girl is very smart.

Le uber male intelligence compared to le femderp intelligence meme is a bust anon. The vast majority of posters on here are male and most of them are about as intelligent as the coffee I'm drinking. The reason you don't come across that many intelligent females is the same reason you don't come across that many intelligent males, we're all (what is a bellcurve) basically dumbass apes parading around. tfw I want a smart qt3.14 too :(

what translation should i get of the sorrows of werther?

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Is there any pre-requisite reading for

The myth of sisyphus?

I'm a noob and haven't read the greeks yet. Can I safely read this book or would it better if i postponed it until I go through some other literature first?

Pls help.

>>7872548
The best way to find out is to just fucking try to read it. If you understand, or feel that you resonate with it, wonderful. If not, then maybe ask this daft pit of loners.

But, to answer your question, no there isn't. This of it as less philosophy and more a personal essayor literary criticism.

Fuck what /lit/ thinks. Just try to read it. It endures as a modern "classic" for a reason.

>>7872577
>I read 15 pages and I've absolutely loved it till now. I really hope it stays this good.

>>7872577

although I've liked it till now I was only worried about missing out on context or background if it necessitated any.

desu i don't care much what lit thinks about any book because I've realized that people here bash on any book as a means to shitpost or be contrarian.

Perverted linguistics question. I'm searching for the right word.
The allure of a woman is so fascinating. The 'physics' of how the vagina responds to when pressed, prodded, pushed, pulled, squeezed. Replace that word 'physics' with a more appropriate word. I'm referring to the quality of the vagina. You can replace it with any body part for that matter. But what is the best word to use in place of 'physics' that refers to composition and movement, how it moves, etc.

To put it another way. Cow's udders sway when the cow moves. They are spongy in composition. The whole quality of that body part. It's consistency relative to the rest of the body. The shape, texture, composition, feel, etc. What is that. What is the right word that refers to that.

>>7872577

>>7872548

Anyone know the best translation for myth of sisyphus?

Throw in as much Internet slang that you know of.
circlejerk
hivemind
hugbox
clickbait
echochamber
clickbait

donationware

>>7872760
Essence?

>>7872760
nature

>>7872821
op
mod
greentext
sjw
autist
shitpost
tfw
mfw

>>7861461
Steinbeck

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I understand the rationale of people reading and learning languages by geographical spread, but I am still unsure of what exactly constitutes learning for a "canon"? How do canons develop and what defines classical literature over just literature. Is it defined by most influential works, highest quality, most studied works?

Is there anything besides Bloom I can read to help me understand what's going on?

Im considering reading Don Quixote, but I dont know if Im up for it. Ive read a lot of books, but mostly crime and fantasy.. Is the language really old fashioned or have they modernised it? And is the plot easy to follow, are there hundreds of pages where nothing really happens?

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>>7873492
Learn Spanish, then read it in Spanish. I heard it's a lot better that way. If you've never read any "serious" books, such as ones from pic related, I would recommend you start there.

>>7861141
War is god.

>>7874253
/edge

>>7874292
And I know it's a BM quote, just such so edgy out of context.

>>7861137
What is some good 1800's Russian literature?
Besides the communist manifesto and all that bullshit.

>>7874395
Crime and Punishment

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>>7874300
I guess I should have posted with a unrelated pic so it was clear that I was just going for the BM reference.

Hi /lit/ this might be a long shot, but here it goes.

I'm looking for a book, the plot goes somthing like this:

A man dies and goes to heaven, there he does whatever he wants, has fun, get's drunk, i don't know. Eventually he get's tired of it and just asks god to cease his existence.
If I remember correctly the man was british.

A HS professor told us about it but I can't remember it's name.

>>7861137
whats the best book to start with Vonnegut and is he a postmodernist writer?

Anyone know a good Epub reader?

Simply Epub from chrome store is horrendous, cant even save locations or make bookmarks.

>>7874846
Epub reader for Firefox, it's worth installing that browser just for this.

>>7864676
no

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this was in free section of my college library. did i fuck up?

>>7861141
Funneling money to business owners involved in arms and military supplies that in turn buy politicians who will fight new wars in the future. Repeat ad nausea

Where should I start with Brautigan?

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I'm trying to develop a Telegram group that is expressly for learning about how other people live, and gaining a new perspective on your own location in the world. Ideally, at least one person representing their country or region. Good quality discussions, thoughtful conscientious contributions, ask questions, share media. It's hard to moderate groups to shape it into something of good quality.

What's a good name for it?

Has anyone got Lovecraft's flowchart? I'd like to get into Lovecraft, but I don't know where to start and progress. I read Dagon so far.

>>7874846
Just use Calibre

Can I get some recommendations for a friend with ADHD?
I want to help him get started, but I don't want him to get burnt out on the first thing he reads. The Greeks are out of the question at this point.

>>7876465
populeux

>>7876565
>The Greeks are out of the question at this point.

you fucking savage

maybe give him pleb stuff like Sphere to read, it's fun and more importantly the chapters are super short, we are talking literally a couple of pages

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How do you guys come up with plot ideas? I can think of certain motifs, scenes, characters, et cetera for novels but motives, rising action, and just the main story really gets me. I mean what sets the entire thing into action. Really, just the conflict, to be honest, family.

>>7861141
Settling political and economic tensions. At least, settling most of the time.

>>7861165
>romanticizing war
>mfw

>>7876465
Sounds interesting as fuck (no sarcasm), care to give me an invite? Always been interested in what people around the world live like.

Also, I'm not from the US/UK so I might be of value, too.

>>7872760
You could try something from physics, not the word itself. Read through a random physics article and pick up obscure terms, some physics lingo. Fluid dynamics, maybe just dynamics. Kinematics, kinetics, mechanics etc.

I like it when authors import obscure words and give them a new meaning outside of their original field. Deterritorialize that shit, basically.

Is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde a good book?

>>7874221
Learning spanish is not really an option, will probably read the english version, thanks

I want to get back into reading. I'm slowly fighting my internet addiction and I think getting back into novels is a good way to help that.

I'm interested in anything that's got a good amount of drama, but doesn't take itself too seriously. I've always believed most things should have some funny moments.

tl;dr looking for a fictional novel that has a good amount of drama but will also make me laugh.

>>7876565
candide (or other shit by voltaire)

>>7876905
I might think 'Don Quixote' to be too long, but otherwise is perfect for you.

>>7876939
Thanks friend :)

What's the meme trilogy?

I know that there's infinite jest and ulysses, but whats the third?

>>7876993
gravity's rainbow

what order to read the hobbit, lotr, the silmarillion?
i'm guessing in the order listed?

>>7876576
>>7876933
Thanks. This is helpful.

>>7876993
Ready Player One

>>7876696
Personally, I tend to start with the conflict. Everything else is born from the plot.

Don't be afraid to borrow from life. By the time you explore half your possibilities, you'll have figured out a way to pull it off in a way that doesn't feel fraudulent.

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What kind of conflict can I put into this book?
Obviously the MC's struggle between his faith and his newfound sexual desires, but I want there to be an outside force acting on them.

Should I read The Savage Detectives before 2666?

what should i read next? frankenstein, or notes from underground?

>>7878534
Do you have any experiences with social anxiety?

Do you understand the NEET lifestyle?

>>7878543
i was a spergin' neet for my entire adolescence my dude

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>>7878548
Read notes.

>>7878548
you can't be a neet during adolescence you go to school

>>7878564
im a high school drop out

>>7878573
What happened, anon?

>>7878579
social anxiety, poor home life, poor school district. im doing a lot better now. i have friends and im transferring to a big boy university next semester.

For my first ever book, am I better off seeking an agent for publication or should I go Amazon E-Book?

Already been told hundreds of times it should be published, I'm not some douche who thinks their book is gonna be a new york times bestseller or something, I just wanna get it out there.

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>>7878583
I'm glad you got better, anon.

>>7878586
Have you considered sending it to publishers?

>>7878599
I read up on the subject and found that publishers do not accept books the way you think they would. Instead, you get an agent, and the agent goes to publishers for you.

>>7876748
Very good suggestion thank you.

>>7878501
he will soon be a seminarian

Does the fall of communism prove that humans are inherently evil?

>>7878625
Ec -

... Actually that's not a bad idea. Maybe tweak it a bit, though, I'm not sure ow I feel about a guy going through seminary school.
Especially since I'm trying really hard not to put too much personal life experience in these books and my dad is a pastor who went through seminary college in my early 20s.

Any other ideas?

>>7878630
obviously, yes

>>7876568
French for 'populous'? Why?
>>7876724
@mollymawk

>>7878634
about writing about a guy going through seminary school*

>>7878634
Well I do, but I'm not sure how well it will mesh. I'm trying to find something that's like what I first thought of.

The thing that came to my mind was being a catechumen that is being baptised soon, but that's not really very fitting for your story, since he's emerging from another life and becoming religious, rather than growing up religious and being exposed to a whole new lifestyle. The reason I like this is because it gives the story a sense of urgency, he wants to sort things out before he has to make that commitment I know this because this is exactly what I experienced kek, >tfw you become an atheist again a week before your baptism

However, I'm trying to think of an analogous experience for someone who's more of a cradle Christian.

A concept you could put into the story is that of having his mettle tested before he makes this large commitment. The devil wants him to stray from the path God is leading him to. That's kind of a reccuring thing in the Christian experience, the devil will tempt you the hardest the closer you are to virtue.

But yeah, just throwing that out there. Something along those lines might work, might not.

>>7878644
not that guy but what can i do with
>@mollymawk
i'm interested too

>>7878660
I get what you're saying. I think the feeling I was going for is more of... discovering a new thing to worship, and not knowing which is more valuable to you, or which is the "right" path.
I even played with the idea of him having a Christian girlfriend and ending up doing this BDSM thing behind her back... with a guy. At some point he'll end up wearing this collar around his neck 24/7, trying to hide it and everything. The only external conflict I could come up with was another Dom fucking with them, but god, that's so cliche and it's been done a hundred times.

I think you're right, though. It should come from his religion. I'm just not sure how.

>>7861225
Try putting duct tape on it for like two weeks straight. If that doesn't work you can buy an at home freezing set thing for pretty cheap. And if that doesn't work just goto a doctor if it's bothering you and they'll actually freeze it off. Doesn't really hurt or anything.

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>>7878583
I am very happy for you, anon.

What is fabula and syuzhet?

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>>7878665
Telegram messaging dummy.

>>7861461
Bukowski

>>7865935
If it really doesn't bother you and you like her then go for it. The guys calling you "beta" in this thread are just memeing