Is George RR Martin a good writer?

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>>7797251
No.

>>7797251
What constitutes a 'good writer'?

Yes but he isn't a good prose writer which makes the difference between genre fiction and literature

>>7797251
The best, can't wait for the next games of throne

>>7797289
haha fucking pleb

>>7797406
Bait?

>>7797251
I really enjoy his books, he has a great imagination and an excellent world builder, his actual prose is just okay though.

he used to be decent but now he sucks asshole

>>7797444
this.
he is as close to Tolkien in scope and universe as anybody could want -- except he kills off the good guys for shock/realism/shock

>>7797478
I think it leans more towards realism in his killing off of characters, I cannot think of a character that was killed unnecessarily/without prior actions leading them to meet their death.

>>7797478
you obviously know little about tolkien. he created languages, ancient histories, races, magics.

>>7797497
Yes, he understand classic tragedy: every character causes his own death. Though, as Tolkien, is one of those instances when it is better to watch his fantasy develop than to read it.

>>7797444
His "worldbuilding" is just mimicking history

>>7797502
He was a historian; he just used the history of Europe in the middle ages and the mithology of the north, changed the names, mixed them and recycled them.

>>7797502
I understand, but you just don't get that amount of meticulous contemplation nowadays. There is no true equivalent to Tolkien's work.

But you'll have to concede that most people don't give a shit about Tolkien beyond the Hobbit/LotR books. Not many have dared the Silmarillion or Unfinished Tales or HoME.

>>7797520
Silmarillion is shit, at least his other work has plot, this is just a really baf history book of a fictional land: useless and boring.

>>7797524
nothing to do with the previous comment, but cool opinion, friendo.

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>>7797509
Within the context of a fantasy medieval world how is that not appealing?

>>7797478

Nah he usually has a reason for killing off characters.

Aside from the deaths of random fodder characters - the deaths of main characters usually have a way off affecting the plot/moving it forward.

>>7797251

He's good at what he does. I admire the ability to weave an intricate world where the causality of actions is as complex as it is in real life. If you really get into the story you can get deep into the motivations and repercussions of characters' actions - I like to annotate the margins to keep track of what happens and how it will affect things.

It's not 'high literature' - it's not even good prose, it's lazy as fuck. But when I'm not up for sitting down for a good session on reading something challenging I like to relax with a pencil and one of his books and just go to town on it.

>>7799031
What notes could you possibly right on it?

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>>7797478

>he is as close to Tolkien in scope and universe as anybody could want

Oh god, I'm not gonna make it...

>>7799031

RIP me.

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>>7799047

Various things, a few examples below. I write up the subtext of what's happening, I critique the writing, if a character has a turning point in their arc I note it down.

It's really just to help me develop good annotating practice for better books where it's beneficial to make notes.

>>7799061

Sorry to disappoint. I presume the reason you don't like the books is because you've actually read them and formed your own opinion rather than just dismissing them as pleb nonsense?

>>7799087

>I presume the reason you don't like the books is because you've actually read them and formed your own opinion rather than just dismissing them as pleb nonsense?

You know, you're absolutely right; fucking terrible. Mediocre on a good day; which for me would entail waking up to a blowjob, among other things.

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>>7797478

>>7799095

Well I'm currently in the process of reading them and forming my own opinions as well - it just so happens that I enjoy reading them so far. They're just an interesting piece of pulp to sit down and plough through without having to think about it that much.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

>>7799087
>writing on books
>writing
>on a book
Thats what lined paper is for you savage

>>7799087
>Your brother Rhaegar is still remembered, with great love

Why not just say "...remembered and loved" or "lovingly remembered"? Why do so many authors just splash words on a page? It sounds so unnatural.

>>7799146
It's *supposed* to sound unnatural! Unfamiliar! Exotic! You just don't get it! baka

>>7799168
shut up penis breath

I'll say this as someone that read the books and enjoyed the story.

His story and world are fun and exciting, but I literally hated the reading part. He is literally bad at writing. I enjoyed the chapters but hated the actual reading. It was laborious.