Is poetry translatable?

Sometimes, depends on the poem

>>7708428
Some. What Pound describes as melopoiea is very difficult to translate, and is often lost in translation.

Are translations poetic?

Once I saw the word "Homies" in metamorphoses I knew it wasn't.

I'm perfectly fine with translating novels but I do think a non negligible part is lost when you translate poetry.

>>7708569
I read that translation too. Don't know how I feel about it>>7708569

>>7708428
It's definitely inferior but it's still better than reading poetry in a language that you haven't spoken your entire life.

>>7708428
fuark i travelled around italy for like 2 years total and ive never been there wtf

also depends, i would be sorta okay with translation of season in hell, but translation of pan tadeusz makes no sense

>>7708428
Can someone tell me - and I'll come off as being ignorant but I was never taught poetry nor raised with it - is it important to know the ins and outs of poetic technique? Or is that just for the writer, primarily, to know in order to present his thoughts as best he can?

I have read Rhyme's Reason and such, but in actually applying it and deriving what it is telling me is difficult. Is this normal?

>>7708569
What? Where?

>>7708621
It helps but is not necessary. If you you can see the techniques and understand why they are being used you will likely appreciate the poem more.

Yes, things get lost and changed though. It's best to thing of it as generally a slightly different work than exactly the same piece but in another language.

>>7708621

I find it informs my reading and understanding, but it's not vital.

>>7708428
If it were English language cucks would be studying Italian poetry in school, not theirs.

you can translate it into other poetry

>>7708569
Fagles translated Ovid, too?

>>7708760
Probably the simplest way of putting it. A translation can still evoke some of the same essence of the original, but it can never be truly like the original. Same way with novels and so on.

You can create a very accurate representation.

It would of course not be the original work, but still a piece of art in its own right.