Books on the occult and magic.

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>>10018219
Crowley, Evola

>>10018219
>Amazon exists
>rare books.

There's no such thing as magic. There is however, confirmation bias, echo-chambers, image-consciousness and wishful thinking.

People will often argue this thinking that not everything can be reduced to science. What they mean to say is that not everything can be explained by current scientific understanding. So if a phenomenon were in fact something "more" than what science has thusfar explained, scientists would gather like ants on a cookie looking for the career break that would come with explaining what it was, what it's made of, how it worked, and why we never noticed before.
That's why there is no such thing as magic, ghosts, psychic phenomena, or miracles. Welcome to adult life.

>>10018224
I read Crowley is a load of shit.

>>10018227
I don't think it really is magic in a magical way.I do know what you are saying though.

I just want to know what these people are getting out of it.
What are the real benefits of "crushing bones mixing them with rosemary the burning them as a candle while facing east and shouting out a mantra 5x"

People pray in all religions and we could say the same about them.Why do they do it.Well most of them are just hoping they go to a better place.
These occultst people are supposedly gaining something before they die.
But what ?
If it's fake,what makes them Continue throughout the years with different spells ?

>>10018375
What they're getting from it is the same as what people get from religion. An accessible way to hide away from the terrifying realization that they don't understand the universe or have any empirical answer to how to behave in it. Children love stories.

The western esoteric tradition is just a suppressed religious tradition. Magic is essentially a pagan mysticism thay survived Christianity by going underground and cloaking itself in different language.

Like with Christianity, you can pray (or do rituals) for desired effects in this life. The main goal, however, is to prepare for the next life. (Plato the pagan once described philosophy the same way as "preparation for death")

>>10018227
>>10018393
>>10018396
I'm surprised good answers like these haven't been buried in all the religious garbage in /lit/

>>10018393
You misuse the word "empirical".

>empirical: gained through ordinary experience

The world, therefore, is full of empirical judgments on how to behave, because those empirical judgments are only estimations based on experience (as opposed to reason), and not certainly and necessarily true.

It is the categorical judgment that is rarer and harder to reach, and this is, I think, what you mean instead of empirical.

>>10018437
Indeed.

>>10018393
Best description of science I've ever read.

>>10018565
*tips cake of light*

>>10018393
I was mostly thinking this is all there is to it really.

>>10018565
Dipshit. Hard science is the least accessible avenue of human thought, and perpetually creates more questions than it answers, and accepts this. A method of inquiry is not necessarily an attempt to hide from existential uncertainty. And even if it were, good ideas are such because they endure scrutiny. If you give yourself special standards of sensemaking because the open-ended falsifiability science is too dogmatic for you, then you're likely to have a lot of useless retarded opinions.

Read "Western Esotericism: A Guide for the Perplexed" and The Kybalion. Start meditating. A lot of it is about inner transformation.

>>10018620
>and accepts this
Ideally, yes. Realistically, I'm laughing at your failure to grasp your own hypocrisy.

But enjoy basing your worldview on a method that has been thoroughly wringed by other people's biases and motivations, a farce you would be cognizant of if you were even remotely familiar with what you're blindly placing your faith in and had a modicum of interest in truth.

Initiation into Hermetics by Franz Bacon is pretty good.

Prometheus Rising by RAW is better.

But the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali are the true GOAT.

>>10018697
>Yoga sutras
My man! That's pretty much my favorite work of philosophy of all time. Practiced diligently, it is the only book you will ever need.

>>10018412
>but sientists would find outXD
Yeah, top notch answer right there.

>>10018665
>spammed book and meme book
Does your professor give you extra credit for shilling his book? Or are you just hoping senpai will notice you?

>>10019407
Any recommendations?

>>10019464
Not really. It's a tough subject to break into. You gotta figure out what you like. It's like with music... sure you like music but what genre is your favorite? what subgenre of that genre is your favorite? Etc.

I.e.; "Do you like alchemy?" "Mental or physical?" "Wet or dry? "Eastern or western?"

>>10018565
>>>>reddit

>>10019555
you gotta admit that blew your mindscape the fuck out

>>10019568
This. Science is so fucking awesome.

>>10019594
>I fucking love science
xD

I, for one, believe in God and science too.

oh yeah then who created science?

>>10019617
God created man. Man creates science. Science will create God again.

>>10019709
Idiot